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Itsalwaysmeyaknow · 11/03/2025 16:18

AIBU or should they apologise properly? Long I know but it has all the facts…
as a family we recently visited a moderately priced hotel chain near London for 3 nights… booked as 2 adults, 2 children. All booked, double checked the confirmation email, all good. I called weeks ahead to enquire about car park to be told it would be sorted on arrival. Well we didn’t arrive until just before midnight (5 hour drive for us) and car park was locked (fair enough) but a well weathered sign over the intercom saying car park full… panicking a bit I called the hotel, they said they’d check and hung up. A bit confused I called again where they hung up again… a couple of minutes of waiting a member of staff arrived complaining we hadn’t pre booked parking, I explained what I was told previously but he looked annoyed. He checked the car park and let us in (loads of space I might add) and said quite sternly I must pay for parking right away. QR code located to pay for car parking, it would let you progress so far… then error. Tried again, error. So headed to check in where I mentioned the car park as to where another employee pulled out his phone, bought up the app, waved it at me saying what was my problem? It works! I explained you had to progress further through the booking in to which he realised I was actually in fact correct and backed down. Eventually the original staff member then processed my car park manually through the computer. Next problem, booking in seemed to take ages… bear in mind it was now after midnight, a very tired hubby and children, all hanging around in the lobby. Finally got our key, top floor, headed up, no children’s bed or bedding. So back down 10 floors to the lobby and asked the staff why my children’s beds weren’t set up and no bedding, to which his reply was “you only booked a room for 2 adults madam”. Being on the ball I whipped out my phone and showed him my email clearly showing 2 adults and 2 children. He analysed it and then backed down and said he would get some bedding. So at 12.30 am I’m in our hotel room pulling out a sofa bed and making up beds for my kids who were at this point absolutely shattered. Had a weak apology from the staff member who was helping but still felt like he thought I was trying to diddle them. This problem then arose every morning at breakfast and we were being eyeballed for having two children with us when the booking was for only two adult breakfasts. I did question the booking again midway through our break because I was fed up of getting embarrassed in front of staff and other guests having to prove each time that this was not our error, and was told it was a technical glitch. The response from the hotel was extremely limited and offered us preferential accommodation and breakfast on our next visit (this was a once in a blue moon thing for us, definitely no more trips planned for a while)…. But that’s not what I want.. I just want an actual apology for being made to feel the way my family did whilst there. AIBU?

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Shroedy · 15/03/2025 14:41

The health and safety / fire requirements seem like a bit of a red herring. Hotels are not obliged to and could not know who is in the hotel at any given moment - guests are not required to state they are going out, no one would know if a guest is back from dinner / a night out or in bed and you are not required to sign someone coming to visit a hotel guest in and out. There are requirements that a hotel must know they are not over occupancy for fire safety reasons (there will be an overall max number of hotel guests) but a) it can almost be guaranteed that even if every room was occupied at its maximum (including eg additional child beds) it would not breach the maximum allowed and b) although it’s evident that the system used by the breakfast team was not updated following check in it may just not have flowed through and it does not guarantee their core systems did not register the extra two guests once they checked in (it may not but the evidence is not there as it stands).

To be clear, the hotel has provided seriously under par service and the complaint is totally warranted but I wouldn’t be going in all guns blazing on health and safety / fire safety - if there is a breach it is most likely a minor one and focusing that way may just derail the complaint.

AnSolas · 15/03/2025 14:27

LongDarkTeatime · 15/03/2025 13:44

@Itsalwaysmeyaknow thats appalling
Would anyone on this thread know how to official report Novotel Wembley for breach of fire regulations?
Yes am typing Novotel Wembley name a few times to increase the chance of this thread appearing on searches for reviews
Are you on any social media platforms where you could tag them in an account of what happened?

The local fire brigade usually have the power to force closure on unsafe business.
I would expect that they would be a little cross if the hotel has no way of producing a registered guest list. But given the nature of the business they could not rely on it as a guest could bring multiple others into their room.

menopausalfart · 15/03/2025 14:15

They're quite highly rated on Tripadvisor. I'd definitely leave a review on there.

ConnieSlow · 15/03/2025 14:10

That’s awful op! Just had a look and they have pretty bad reviews too.

LongDarkTeatime · 15/03/2025 14:07

(can you tell I’m taking no atm? A garage recently risked my life with a mistake and I went all out on them)

LongDarkTeatime · 15/03/2025 14:05

Itsalwaysmeyaknow · 15/03/2025 13:51

I feel like they really couldn’t give a fig. I do have fb, and Instagram but private accounts.

Quick Google turned up this page, may be worth reporting this Novotel Wembley process error you have highlighted to them but they have not reponded appropriately to as it leads to ongoing serious issue undercounting occupants. Critically child occupants.
https://www.hse.gov.uk/contact/tell-us-about-a-health-and-safety-issue.htm

It would be polite to email the Novotel CEO to let her/him know as they don’t seem to understand how serious this is you’ve officially reported it. Could also let her/him know that as you again don’t get a direct response about this systemic issue you’ll try and contact them via social media (they don’t know what you do/don’t have).

Tell us about a health and safety issue - Contact HSE

Tell us about a health and safety issue in your workplace, another workplace or a public space.

https://www.hse.gov.uk/contact/tell-us-about-a-health-and-safety-issue.htm

Itsalwaysmeyaknow · 15/03/2025 13:51

LongDarkTeatime · 15/03/2025 13:44

@Itsalwaysmeyaknow thats appalling
Would anyone on this thread know how to official report Novotel Wembley for breach of fire regulations?
Yes am typing Novotel Wembley name a few times to increase the chance of this thread appearing on searches for reviews
Are you on any social media platforms where you could tag them in an account of what happened?

I feel like they really couldn’t give a fig. I do have fb, and Instagram but private accounts.

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LongDarkTeatime · 15/03/2025 13:44

@Itsalwaysmeyaknow thats appalling
Would anyone on this thread know how to official report Novotel Wembley for breach of fire regulations?
Yes am typing Novotel Wembley name a few times to increase the chance of this thread appearing on searches for reviews
Are you on any social media platforms where you could tag them in an account of what happened?

Itsalwaysmeyaknow · 15/03/2025 13:14

Fuming at the hotels responses so far and the amount of time waiting to hear a reply back from someone higher up…. I messaged head office directly who only redirected me back to the hotel, the hotel have replied again saying a supervisor will be replying and it is in hand… and this is the hotels comments regarding the fire emergency issue…

“Please be assured that our hotel has gone through and continue to go through several Health & Safety audits and we’re in compliance to all requirements by the law. One of those audits was conducted by the Fire Safety team not so long ago.

So will not be going in detail to discuss this point as we are abiding all laws pertaining to Health & Safety in our hotel and have been cleared by relevant authorities through random audits.”

I have replied saying how unhappy with how long this is taking and I don’t feel my initial complaint is fully understood and how it made us feel during our stay…. Just wait and see what happens next…

but as I am fed up with them the hotel is the NOVOTEL WEMBLEY for anyone interested. If I don’t get a timely response but Monday evening I need to get my head on and write a very well worded review for every website I can find. Fuming

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HeyItsPickleRick · 13/03/2025 11:18

Midnight is a perfectly acceptable time to arrive at a chain London hotel. It’s not a B and B. You were treated very badly.

Snakebite61 · 13/03/2025 11:07

Itsalwaysmeyaknow · 11/03/2025 16:18

AIBU or should they apologise properly? Long I know but it has all the facts…
as a family we recently visited a moderately priced hotel chain near London for 3 nights… booked as 2 adults, 2 children. All booked, double checked the confirmation email, all good. I called weeks ahead to enquire about car park to be told it would be sorted on arrival. Well we didn’t arrive until just before midnight (5 hour drive for us) and car park was locked (fair enough) but a well weathered sign over the intercom saying car park full… panicking a bit I called the hotel, they said they’d check and hung up. A bit confused I called again where they hung up again… a couple of minutes of waiting a member of staff arrived complaining we hadn’t pre booked parking, I explained what I was told previously but he looked annoyed. He checked the car park and let us in (loads of space I might add) and said quite sternly I must pay for parking right away. QR code located to pay for car parking, it would let you progress so far… then error. Tried again, error. So headed to check in where I mentioned the car park as to where another employee pulled out his phone, bought up the app, waved it at me saying what was my problem? It works! I explained you had to progress further through the booking in to which he realised I was actually in fact correct and backed down. Eventually the original staff member then processed my car park manually through the computer. Next problem, booking in seemed to take ages… bear in mind it was now after midnight, a very tired hubby and children, all hanging around in the lobby. Finally got our key, top floor, headed up, no children’s bed or bedding. So back down 10 floors to the lobby and asked the staff why my children’s beds weren’t set up and no bedding, to which his reply was “you only booked a room for 2 adults madam”. Being on the ball I whipped out my phone and showed him my email clearly showing 2 adults and 2 children. He analysed it and then backed down and said he would get some bedding. So at 12.30 am I’m in our hotel room pulling out a sofa bed and making up beds for my kids who were at this point absolutely shattered. Had a weak apology from the staff member who was helping but still felt like he thought I was trying to diddle them. This problem then arose every morning at breakfast and we were being eyeballed for having two children with us when the booking was for only two adult breakfasts. I did question the booking again midway through our break because I was fed up of getting embarrassed in front of staff and other guests having to prove each time that this was not our error, and was told it was a technical glitch. The response from the hotel was extremely limited and offered us preferential accommodation and breakfast on our next visit (this was a once in a blue moon thing for us, definitely no more trips planned for a while)…. But that’s not what I want.. I just want an actual apology for being made to feel the way my family did whilst there. AIBU?

This sort of service needs to be called out. Name the hotel so people can avoid it.

Mere1 · 13/03/2025 08:03

Itsalwaysmeyaknow · 11/03/2025 16:24

It’s not a budget one like premier inn or Travelodge… I little bit more upmarket but not anywhere near mega bucks

Premier Inn are consistently efficient, in our experience.

Melx42 · 13/03/2025 07:17

Itsalwaysmeyaknow · 12/03/2025 23:13

Oh my goodness @Melx42 thankyou! You have written this so perfectly and I will be resending an email tomorrow and this will be it x

I hope you get the correct response this time! I furious on your behalf ha ha x

Itsalwaysmeyaknow · 12/03/2025 23:13

Melx42 · 12/03/2025 19:38

Dear [Hotel Manager],
I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to formally address a series of issues that occurred during my family’s recent stay at your hotel, which left us feeling deeply frustrated and embarrassed. The experience was far from what we had expected, and I feel it’s important to highlight these concerns so that they can be appropriately addressed.
We arrived at your hotel after a long 5-hour drive, just before midnight, as a family of four—2 adults and 2 children. My booking was confirmed well in advance, and I double-checked the details in the confirmation email, ensuring that everything was in order. Additionally, I called ahead weeks before our stay to inquire about parking and was assured that parking would be sorted upon arrival.
However, upon arrival, we were faced with a locked car park and a weathered sign over the intercom indicating that the car park was full. In a state of concern, I called the hotel for assistance, only to have the call disconnected twice. Eventually, after some time, a staff member arrived, complaining that we hadn’t pre-booked parking. I explained that I had been told parking would be arranged on arrival, but the staff member appeared annoyed and checked the car park, which had plenty of available spaces. He then insisted that I pay for parking immediately, which led to further complications when the QR code for payment didn’t work, displaying an error.
At check-in, I attempted to explain the situation regarding the car park, only for another staff member to dismiss my concerns in a condescending manner, implying that I was the one at fault. Eventually, the original staff member manually processed the car park payment, and we proceeded to check in.
However, the issues didn’t end there. By this point, it was well past midnight, and my family was exhausted. When we reached our room, we discovered that the children’s beds had not been set up, and no bedding was provided. I returned to the lobby to ask about this, and the staff member informed me that our booking was only for 2 adults. I promptly showed him my booking confirmation, clearly indicating that the room was reserved for 2 adults and 2 children. After some scrutiny, he conceded and promised to arrange the bedding.
At this point, it was around 12:30 AM, and I found myself setting up the sofa bed and arranging bedding for my children while they were clearly overtired. Although the staff member did apologize, the tone of the apology and the whole situation made me feel as though I was at fault, which only added to the distress of the experience.
Moreover, this issue persisted every morning at breakfast, where we were continually questioned and stared at by staff when trying to have breakfast with our children, as the booking was only noted for 2 adult breakfasts. It became increasingly uncomfortable, and I was forced to explain our situation multiple times, which felt unnecessary and embarrassing. I was finally told that this was a “technical glitch,” but this response did little to alleviate the frustration.
While I understand that mistakes can happen, the manner in which we were treated during our stay, coupled with the lack of proper apology or recognition of the inconvenience caused, left us feeling disrespected and uncomfortable throughout our visit. I am not interested in a voucher for future accommodation or preferential treatment on a future visit, as this was a rare trip for our family, and we do not plan to return.
What I do expect is a proper, sincere apology for the frustration and discomfort my family experienced. I trust you will take this complaint seriously and take the necessary steps to ensure that future guests do not have to endure a similar experience.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look forward to your response.

Oh my goodness @Melx42 thankyou! You have written this so perfectly and I will be resending an email tomorrow and this will be it x

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RoastDinnerSmellsNice · 12/03/2025 22:47

As I said previously OP, address your complaint to the CEO of the company, it seems it's often the only way to get what you want, whether it be for them to take action, apologise, give you a refund, etc.,. I've recently had cause to do it with M&S, after Evri decided that they could find my address when delivering, but not when I wanted them to collect something. Having waited in on 5 different days, only for no one to turn up, I'd had enough, so wrote and complained to the CEO. I was contacted by one of his underlings, by phone first thing in the morning, and he went out of his way to sort the problem out. I've also done it with other companies, and have always received a good response, plus these people need to know what's going on, as of course everyone below the boss, bends over backwards to stop them hearing about problems that shouldn't have occurred.

RedRoss86 · 12/03/2025 19:57

Hi OP,

Hotel Reservations Manager here.

What a terrible experience and shocking service!

  • your arrival time shouldn't impact the service received and I disagree with other posters giving grief about you arriving at midnight. In hospitality, late arrivals are part & parcel of hotel work.
  • the carpark PALAVA sounds so annoying. I'm putting that down to a staff member being difficult.
  • when you booked online, did you book a family room or what type of room was it? If you entered 2 adults and 2 children, and a certain room type was offered to you based on these requirements, the 2 ad and 2 children should have carried across to hotel system.

The comment about them having to add your children into a comments box is very bloody bizarre.

I'd be querying;

  • how did the booking of 2 ad and 2 children land in their system as 2 adults only?
  • why wasn't a suitable room type offered ON ARRIVAL once you showed your confirmation
  • why wasn't the system updated to reflect the correct number of guests on a number of occasions during your stay?
  • why were your children's beds not made up?!

Sounds like an absolute shambles with the guest clearly not at the forefront of the staffs' minds.

Melx42 · 12/03/2025 19:38

Dear [Hotel Manager],
I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to formally address a series of issues that occurred during my family’s recent stay at your hotel, which left us feeling deeply frustrated and embarrassed. The experience was far from what we had expected, and I feel it’s important to highlight these concerns so that they can be appropriately addressed.
We arrived at your hotel after a long 5-hour drive, just before midnight, as a family of four—2 adults and 2 children. My booking was confirmed well in advance, and I double-checked the details in the confirmation email, ensuring that everything was in order. Additionally, I called ahead weeks before our stay to inquire about parking and was assured that parking would be sorted upon arrival.
However, upon arrival, we were faced with a locked car park and a weathered sign over the intercom indicating that the car park was full. In a state of concern, I called the hotel for assistance, only to have the call disconnected twice. Eventually, after some time, a staff member arrived, complaining that we hadn’t pre-booked parking. I explained that I had been told parking would be arranged on arrival, but the staff member appeared annoyed and checked the car park, which had plenty of available spaces. He then insisted that I pay for parking immediately, which led to further complications when the QR code for payment didn’t work, displaying an error.
At check-in, I attempted to explain the situation regarding the car park, only for another staff member to dismiss my concerns in a condescending manner, implying that I was the one at fault. Eventually, the original staff member manually processed the car park payment, and we proceeded to check in.
However, the issues didn’t end there. By this point, it was well past midnight, and my family was exhausted. When we reached our room, we discovered that the children’s beds had not been set up, and no bedding was provided. I returned to the lobby to ask about this, and the staff member informed me that our booking was only for 2 adults. I promptly showed him my booking confirmation, clearly indicating that the room was reserved for 2 adults and 2 children. After some scrutiny, he conceded and promised to arrange the bedding.
At this point, it was around 12:30 AM, and I found myself setting up the sofa bed and arranging bedding for my children while they were clearly overtired. Although the staff member did apologize, the tone of the apology and the whole situation made me feel as though I was at fault, which only added to the distress of the experience.
Moreover, this issue persisted every morning at breakfast, where we were continually questioned and stared at by staff when trying to have breakfast with our children, as the booking was only noted for 2 adult breakfasts. It became increasingly uncomfortable, and I was forced to explain our situation multiple times, which felt unnecessary and embarrassing. I was finally told that this was a “technical glitch,” but this response did little to alleviate the frustration.
While I understand that mistakes can happen, the manner in which we were treated during our stay, coupled with the lack of proper apology or recognition of the inconvenience caused, left us feeling disrespected and uncomfortable throughout our visit. I am not interested in a voucher for future accommodation or preferential treatment on a future visit, as this was a rare trip for our family, and we do not plan to return.
What I do expect is a proper, sincere apology for the frustration and discomfort my family experienced. I trust you will take this complaint seriously and take the necessary steps to ensure that future guests do not have to endure a similar experience.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look forward to your response.

Sandflea9900 · 12/03/2025 19:37

Write a scathing review on TripAdvisor.

Itsalwaysmeyaknow · 12/03/2025 19:02

Haven’t had a reply to my 2nd email as yet… although I did ask for it to be pushed up to a higher rank. I did email head office directly last night a copy of my original email and added extra comments that this was my original email to the hotel directly but I was unhappy with their response and I felt I should message higher up… their reply was that my complaint had been redirected to the hotel in question 🙄

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Frillysweetpea · 12/03/2025 18:06

Write to the hotel manager (or even head of customer service for the chain if the response us unsatisfactory). Word it slightly more formally than you did here. Point out that insult was added to injury by the staff attitude and ask them to make amends. If you are offered a discount on your next booking decline and say you expect them to make you a refund offer. They may do this straight away. When I had similar I was given a 50% refund straight away.

ForLilacMaker · 12/03/2025 17:30

It’s poor service and you should complain. You should have been accommodated in the restaurant while they made up the extra beds for your children, you are not part of the housekeeping team, and you should have been give a partial refund at the very least.

EmmaMaria · 12/03/2025 17:16

FlakyBeaker · 11/03/2025 22:04

You arrived at midnight

Fantastic observation skills. It took you five pages to work out the OP arrived at midnight.

YorkshirePuddingsGreatestFan · 12/03/2025 16:13

I sometimes go away with a female friend. We specifically request a twin room as neither of us want to sleep in bed together!

So many times we arrive at hotels and get into the room and find we have a double bed. We have to and ask for the correct room, which often results in huffing and puffing as if we're being awkward for wanting what we actually booked.

LoveBluey · 12/03/2025 15:42

How are people still picking holes in this and blaming the OP. When booking and paying for a room unless they clearly state arrival is only within certain hours (have only ever experienced this at a seaside b&b) then you can arrive anytime. It's one of the benefits of a hotel chain with 24 hour check in.

I've done it before with small children and done the exact same thing of setting off later after school and work because that suited us. Yes we were tired but doesn't mean the hotel could just not give us what we had paid for. If anything I was getting 8 hours less of what I'd paid for considering I could have checked in at 3pm.

AnSolas · 12/03/2025 07:33

I would be asking how they managed fire safety?
According to them they can not do a quick guest headcount.
But rather in an evacuation event would have to go to every individual room booking to check if the room should or should not have children and how many children there should be.