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Girl Math *eye roll*

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Heylylaa · 10/03/2025 13:00

AIBU to be sick of expressions like "girl math"?

Google says the definition of Girl Math is "a term used to describe the financial rationalizations that some women use to justify spending money. It's a fun, unserious way of justifying purchases that might not be essential". However, that's not the context I hear it used in.

People I know basically say as a way to insult a womans intelligence if something isn't adding up. Basically you're a woman and you're thick.

For example on a Facebook page where someone declared they were 100 days since the start of something, a commenter queried how that could be as they were 83 days a couple of days ago. A different person comments "girl math".

I don't know if I'm being irrational to hate this phrase so much?

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MyKingdomforaNewUsername · 12/03/2025 02:16

I am an award winning accountant with a medal of achievement in my chosen field, and a degree in Maths, and I hate that I sort of identify and get the girl math thing.

I have O level grade C in Maths <twirls> and several Brownie badges and think girl math is twee and you STEM lot who identify with it are cringe.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 10/03/2025 20:06

RedHelenB · 10/03/2025 13:06

Hate the word math rather than maths full stop.

Me too. Any Brits calling it ‘math’ or saying ‘do the math” need a good slap.

napody · 10/03/2025 19:51

TY78910 · 10/03/2025 18:22

Well… seeing as the term originated from TikTok, likely from someone under-25, there is really no reason to dismiss that explanation. I think here lies an issue - people taking a phrase and attaching their own context despite being told otherwise and as a result getting themselves offended. It’s like me taking the phrase ‘cost of living crisis’ and convincing myself that it’s derogatory and designed to shame those on the poverty line, when in fact it came from describing an economic event.

Yes I realise that; they're qualified to explain how it's used on tiktok, but (just as if 'having a blonde moment' had a resurgence on there) it's about more than just that isn't it? It's historic context around girls and maths, inequality, calling women girls.... bigger stuff.

TY78910 · 10/03/2025 18:22

napody · 10/03/2025 16:36

Yeah, this.

And can we have a 'youth-splaining' term to cover people under 25 who explain why these things 'reeeeallly aren't misogynistic, you just haven't understood how we use it on tiktok' to anyone over 30?

Well… seeing as the term originated from TikTok, likely from someone under-25, there is really no reason to dismiss that explanation. I think here lies an issue - people taking a phrase and attaching their own context despite being told otherwise and as a result getting themselves offended. It’s like me taking the phrase ‘cost of living crisis’ and convincing myself that it’s derogatory and designed to shame those on the poverty line, when in fact it came from describing an economic event.

EdnaTheWitch · 10/03/2025 17:24

It’s up there with the equally annoying “my bad” 🙄

pursuitOfSomething · 10/03/2025 17:22

At least four posts saying it's an American term as though that's relevant to the OP?

It's the same land that gave us Karen then decide to use it against any woman complaining about anything to dimiss complaint however resonable but especially ones that don't look young.

From land that twice elected Trump - a man with an unsavory reputation round women.

Perhaps some are worried its not actually a fun term - but a misogynistic put down from a country with a real problem with women and women's rights then exported to rest of world via internet.

I suspect most UK girls/women using it are trying to use it ironically as of course girls are good at maths goes without saying - problem is I've literally has primary teacher say in front of me that girls aren't good at maths and maths is more a boy things - so I'm not sure evey section of society is as on board with of course women and girls are good at maths.

Plus there is reasearch that telling girls before maths test they aren't good at maths even if it just because they are female they do less well on maths tests.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3337753/

https://spsp.org/news/character-and-context-blog/wu-boys-girls-math-performance

Reducing the Impact of Stereotype Threat on Women's Math Performance: Are Two Strategies Better Than One? - PMC

Two studies examined whether stereotype threat impairs women's math performance and whether concurrent threat reduction strategies can be used to offset this effect. In Study 1, collegiate men and women (N = 100) watched a video purporting that ...

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3337753/

PsychoHotSauce · 10/03/2025 17:20

napody · 10/03/2025 16:36

Yeah, this.

And can we have a 'youth-splaining' term to cover people under 25 who explain why these things 'reeeeallly aren't misogynistic, you just haven't understood how we use it on tiktok' to anyone over 30?

I'm 36, use tiktok and as there's equal arguably funnier 'boy math', I really don't get the issue. In fact, 'girl math' is women laughing at themselves, 'boy math' is women laughing at men.

Boy math is standing eye to eye with a 5ft9 woman and insisting he's 6ft
Boy math is asking a woman what she brings to the table, when he lives with his mum and doesn't even own his own fucking table
Boy math is insisting “men are visual creatures” yet miraculously 'don't see mess' and the chores that need doing
Boy math is insisting on 50/50 - but only on finances, not housework, childcare, life admin, free time...

Need I go on? Of all the things for women to froth about, this is not it.

ErrolTheDragon · 10/03/2025 17:03

YANBU, op.

Just another silly misogynistic expression.

It wouldn't matter if the outdated sexist stereotypes about women and girls' mathematical ability didn't still persist.

PumpkinPieAlibi · 10/03/2025 16:52

ChickenLittlesCat · 10/03/2025 15:31

At least four posts saying it's an American term as though that's relevant to the OP?

It's slang that is widely used online... The Internet does not belong to America. Borders don't really apply anymore for slang and haven't done for at least 25 years?? You regularly see viral phenomenon dismissed as American and I find it absolutely bizarre, is it a generational thing? Do you not understand that people don't need a passport to use reddit or YouTube? One person, in any country posts something on the internet and within in an hour it's an international bit of slang.

Is this why people go mad when they see someone use an Americanism on MN, do they think that an American has crossed without their paperwork to some sort of online version of British soil? Like an Internet embassy.

Agreed. Internet terminology and the trends in language and pop culture that stem from social media, transcend nationality.

But I've noticed American-directed xenophobia is pretty rife here, so it's not really surprising.

randomchap · 10/03/2025 16:52

rosemarble · 10/03/2025 15:38

Ah OK - got it. I read "used to have the men explain" as "used to get the men to explain" as in "used to have the men make the tea" or "I'll have my son collect you from the shop"....it's a slight language nuance, although now I read it back it's not very good grammar.
Do you know what I mean though? Someone might say "Oh, I'll have my Gran knit you one of those".

I can see where I wasn't clear enough. Poor use of language on my part.

napody · 10/03/2025 16:36

ThonBanane · 10/03/2025 16:28

It's like 'blonde' jokes 30 years ago. All so light hearted and just silly fun yet profoundly misogynistic.

Yeah, this.

And can we have a 'youth-splaining' term to cover people under 25 who explain why these things 'reeeeallly aren't misogynistic, you just haven't understood how we use it on tiktok' to anyone over 30?

babymamalove · 10/03/2025 16:29

I don't like the use of girl in women over 18 in general

ThonBanane · 10/03/2025 16:28

It's like 'blonde' jokes 30 years ago. All so light hearted and just silly fun yet profoundly misogynistic.

Heylylaa · 10/03/2025 16:25

I’ve never heard of the expression man maths. And to be honest I don’t care, women are already the butt of enough jokes.

I actually hate women using this about themselves too. It’s disparaging and we actually don’t need to justify spending on own fucking money on whatever we want.

Im glad I’m not the only one who hates it.

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ThonBanane · 10/03/2025 16:25

owlexpress · 10/03/2025 16:23

But... it really doesn't mean that girls/women are bad at math(s). It's a stupid comment, same as if someone at work is going on holiday and someone else gives it the 'take me in your suitcase!'. Or your neighbour is cleaning their car - 'can you do mine next, har har'. Marginally funnier than those because it's a fresh trend, but it likely will become a cliche.

That's how you interpret it, fine. I don't.

Marylou2 · 10/03/2025 16:23

My DD and her friends say girl math. They're doing maths and further maths at Alevel. It's a joke. Wouldn't take it too seriously.

owlexpress · 10/03/2025 16:23

ThonBanane · 10/03/2025 16:20

It f*s me off big time, particularly as I have a DD on track for a first class degree in Maths at Oxford University. She could outwit the idiots who say this kind of thing in a nanosecond.

But... it really doesn't mean that girls/women are bad at math(s). It's a stupid comment, same as if someone at work is going on holiday and someone else gives it the 'take me in your suitcase!'. Or your neighbour is cleaning their car - 'can you do mine next, har har'. Marginally funnier than those because it's a fresh trend, but it likely will become a cliche.

owlexpress · 10/03/2025 16:20

This thread is a mess. People who aren't using phrases correctly getting offended by them (see mansplaining!).

For example on a Facebook page where someone declared they were 100 days since the start of something, a commenter queried how that could be as they were 83 days a couple of days ago. A different person comments "girl math".

Hard to say without context, but I'd take this more as a jokey comment from the third person. For example say it's 100 days into a running 10k plan or something (I know it's not) and the original person has retrospectively added on 15 days to how long they've been running 5ks, because they went a quick jog those days. It's because achievements are hard, and it's not unheard of for people to exaggerate for a quick dopamine fix. That would be an example of 'girl math', sort of. Not a particularly good example or funny comment, but not insulting and it doesn't sound like person C was trying to say that women can't do maths.

ThonBanane · 10/03/2025 16:20

It f*s me off big time, particularly as I have a DD on track for a first class degree in Maths at Oxford University. She could outwit the idiots who say this kind of thing in a nanosecond.

Ellie1015 · 10/03/2025 16:11

I have only heard as a way to justify non essentials.

This £100 dress is really only £10 as I will wear it 10 times.

TallulahBetty · 10/03/2025 16:04

SalfordQuays · 10/03/2025 15:54

@funinthesun19 I thought mansplaining was taking the piss out of men, who think that women know nothing, and patronise them by explaining to them things they probably already know.

This is it. Mansplaining is taking the mick out of the men, not the women.

Jumpingthruhoops · 10/03/2025 16:03

The Google definition IS what it means; a light-hearted way of justifying spending. Eg, Girl Math is ordering an extra item online to qualify for free shipping. Nothing to do with lack of intelligence and everything to do with women not wanting to pay a fiver for nothing, when they can pay a fiver for something.

SalfordQuays · 10/03/2025 15:55

TallulahBetty · 10/03/2025 15:53

Awful, but if you have to use it, at least use MATHS

This.
I can just about cope with girl maths, but unless you live outside the UK, please don’t say girl math.

SalfordQuays · 10/03/2025 15:54

funinthesun19 · 10/03/2025 15:02

Mansplaining is another term that is against women too. Both imply women don’t know what they’re talking about and that we need the big important men to do the boy math and mansplain things for us.

@funinthesun19 I thought mansplaining was taking the piss out of men, who think that women know nothing, and patronise them by explaining to them things they probably already know.