To think the NHS should not be cutting funding for Anorexia and EDs if they are going to be spending ££££ on weight loss jabs

Like the way we used to treat anorexics then.

I'm glad times have moved on.

This.

And was I the only one to be confused about the connection between anorexia and erectile dysfunction ?

No? Probably my age then... 😂

Can I ask where the cuts to ED services has come from? Can't find anything online specifically talking about this but 600m has been allocated to social care and 26m to mental health centres?

www.gov.uk/government/news/new-funding-to-fix-the-nhs-heres-how-it-will-be-spent#:~:text=As%20part%20of%20the%20Autumn,%2C%20excluding%20COVID%2D19%20years.

And £9.60 for each prescription.

They do. Tax and NI like the rest of us.

That's the thing OP seems to be missing, if the NHS does fund weight loss jabs, they'll save a ton of money on various co-morboties, and hopefully they can funnel some more of that cash to EDs (although I won't hold my breath on that one.

I agree with you about funding for ED treatment and for CAMHS, which essentially isn't providing a service at all for the vast majority. It's not always possible to go private either, even if you have the means to pay.

I'm not sure about the link to weight loss medication though, which should save the NHS money in the medium and long term. Why not just fund everything adequately?

I’m not sure what you’re expecting people to say, op. It’s a scandal that mental health is so woefully underfunded. But money isn’t being taken from treating mental health problems and being used for weight loss injections instead. It’s just not.
I think a pp asked if you’d have the same opinion of a new cancer drug being rolled out as you do the WLI. You didn’t answer but we all know what your answer would be.

I'm getting the impression op thinks that obesity is a choice and therefore not deserving of treatment, funding, sympathy

It’s not my link. I was referring simply to the figures the PP gave showing an above inflation rise.

Many people who need the jabs are similarly affected, no? Yet, you seem to think they should pay for their own treatment all the same.

If you want therapy op or need mental health support, there's nothing to stop you going to see your GP and requesting some help.

Fwiw, I have a DC who had various health conditions and sn which impacted my ability to work. It's not unusual.

This was a well considered and thoughtful response from someone who has been closer to anorexia than even you are. And you met her with rudeness, completely failing to engage with what she was saying and the kindness she extended to you.

I'm not sure what your aim is in starting this thread OP but lashing out at other people, whether that's spreading misinformation and harmful narratives about other medical patients or being directly rude to people on this forum, is not the way to deal with it. You are under a lot of stress and your family is being badly let down by the sounds of things. Starting fights outside of that is not going to help you. Quite the opposite.

MN can be a great source of comfort and support, and has been for many people facing serious illness and worse. If you start a thread in good faith on the right board then I'm certain you will find that same comfort and support if you want it.

You could always pay for it? You seem to think other people should pay for their treatments.

Pay for it?

What would you think op if someone said it wasn't fair that a particular cancer drug wasn't available on the NHS due to cost...but anorexics get money spent on them...when all they have to do is eat therefore it's in their control in a way in which cancer isn't. Not nice is it?

There's a whole myriad of conditions and illnesses which have to be treated...some physical, some mental, some self inflicted... trying to draw comparisons and work out who is most deserving for treatment and who isn't is futile. It's just winding yourself up even more.

She didn't say get it on the NHS. There's no money for that, it's also went to the fatties

What makes you think obese people are getting NHS resources, OP? Last year I had a BMI of 41 and my GP offered nothing when I made an appointment asking for help. No support, no medication, nothing. Her advice was 'get a personal trainer or an energetic dog'.

I have been overweight or obese my entire adult life and never had any help from the NHS at all.

I did get the personal trainer and I pay for weight loss jabs myself. No cost to the NHS. My BMI is 33 now; I'm still going. I spend £400 a month on the jabs, the trainer and gym membership and I'll do this forever (hopefully the medication costs will come down!)

The idea that the NHS is handing out all sorts of help to obese people is wildly misinformed. There's nothing for anyone!

There is very, very limited support for people with obesity. What the NHS spends is a drop in the ocean compared to what would be required to tackle the problem. And it's very much a case of waiting and waiting until you get to a very high Bmi and a host of co-morbidities before you're entitled to any help. So I don't know where your narrative comes from. Your anger is seriously misplaced.

I was just reading on the BBC the other day that they same 'always hungry' gene that labs have is also found in people. I've read on here people say that they have constant 'food noise' in their head and that the injections stop it. I think the injections are great tbh and will also save the NHS money in the long term by keeping people healthier.

That said of course I don't think there should be cuts to eating disorder services.

People will always lie to get what they want, its basic human nature.

You cannot deny a large (pun not intended) group of people where this works because of some bad apples.

Do we remove cars from everyone because some people speed?
Do we remove knives from the kitchen because some people kill and stab?

@HowardTJMoon Yes it's good they're finally making it stricter.