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My sister's been sacked - AGAIN!

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Scottysister · 09/03/2025 11:18

Not so much AIBU but more is ISBU - Is She Being Unreasonable?

My younger sister has just been fired from her third job in seven years. Middle management in the private sector.

She’s coming to stay with DH & me in a couple of days & I’m dreading it. How she’s been picked on/bullied/forced out will be the only topic of conversation. I want to support her but how can I (kindly/nicely) point out to her that her behaviour & personality are a massive factor in what keeps happening? She just doesn’t see it.

She’s early 50’s - not had a partner for 20years or so. No children or friends either. Her work is EVERYTHING to her. She is so passionate about it & expects everyone on her team to be the same. But they aren’t. They have a life outside of work but sadly she doesn’t. Each new job is the best she’s ever had. Until it isn’t. Each new team is absolutely brilliant. Until they aren’t. I do think she gets results and is good at the technical side of her job. Just really bad at the people/relationship side. The hours she works (through choice) are ridiculous.

She’s never been a particularly easy person to be around. Very intense & tightly wound. When we see her we’re all constantly walking on eggshells for fear of saying something that will upset or annoy her. Our elderly mother in particular. Her moods can be awful & she doesn’t take any criticism well. I think over the years the whole family has avoided saying no to her for fear of the explosion of anger & moods. I don’t think we’ve done her any favours with that approach.

I live at the other end of the country so we don’t see each other that often. She comes up maybe two or three times a year. We’re never invited to stay with her. I do message but she’s not great at replying - maybe a thumbs up or a very brief reply. Just says she’s super busy at work. She rarely messages me.

The previous sacking happened because she lost her temper with a junior member of her team & shouted/swore at them about something pretty minor. This was in front of a client. She couldn’t see that she had played any role in events. Kept saying that everyone had it in for her & it had been orchestrated. That she’d been victimised, bullied etc. She came to stay after that & it was awful. Gentle attempts to point out how wrong her behaviour was, didn’t go down well at all. She said I was blaming her & she was the victim in all this. I also suggested she thought about some counselling but she said that was ridiculous & it was the others who needed it not her.

I tried to be positive with suggestions to stop it happening again. Maybe work fewer hours, take time off, get a hobby, keep it professional with the team, try & nip any issues in the bud etc etc. Clearly that all fell on deaf ears.

I don’t know the full detail of what’s happened this time yet but (again) her new team has turned against her. Reported her to HR for various things and she’s out. She sounded so angry on the phone yesterday.

I’ve read about DARVO & a lot of that seems to fit. She thinks she’s the victim because she’s been fired, but her behaviour led to it - again!

How can she not see she’s the common denominator? What’s the best way to have a conversation about this? DH & I can’t just bite our tongues for the duration of the visit. How do you talk to someone who doesn’t listen? Has anyone got any tips or advice? Am dreading it.

So sorry this was really long.

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HelpMeGetThrough · 09/03/2025 11:33

Her being sacked isn't your problem, she wouldn't be coming to stay if it was me. I'd be telling her to use her time wisely and learn from constantly being fired.

Wouldn't give it a second thought.

Hoppinggreen · 09/03/2025 11:31

What would be the point in trying to discuss this with her?
Just say "oh dear, sounds tough" and move one.
It sounds like she has no self awareness and won't listen to anyone and if you want to have as nice a time with her as possible then just avoid it altogether.
Its not your job to try and get her to change

Hillrunning · 09/03/2025 11:30

Why are you so set on getting her to see it differently? You don't see her often, how she is at work has little impact on you day to day and she is clearly pretty set in her ways. I'd just let her be how she is. The moaning is happening during your visit regardless of how you respond so I'd just make sympathetic noises and suggest distraction activities that work for you.

GrandHighPoohbah · 09/03/2025 11:29

I think it's time to say to yourself that this isn't your problem and not your job to fix, if she's not receptive to advice and help. Just nod along "uh huh" when she's talking about it, and don't engage in a discussion.

Merryoldgoat · 09/03/2025 11:27

If she can’t see swearing at a colleague is unacceptable especially in front of clients she’s an idiot.

Tortoisehair · 09/03/2025 11:25

I think I’d gently suggest she try a different type of job, where you don’t have the worry of managing other people. I wouldn’t kick her whilst she’s down if it were my sibling.

titchy · 09/03/2025 11:24

Don't have her to stay. She's not going to recognise her behaviour, so anything you say will fall on deaf ears. Certainly while she's still raw about. Maybe suggest she comes to stay in a few months.

Alternatively send her an email letting her know that any discussion of her work situation is off limits unless she is prepared to be receptive to your ideas for her to make some changes - otherwise you will have to ask her to leave.

Merryoldgoat · 09/03/2025 11:23

Honestly, I’d tell her you think it’s best she doesn’t visit.

Tell her that last time she wasn’t willing to listen to you and that it was a very difficult time and that she needs to think about her behaviour.

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