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Gdpr breach at work?

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Ereerenownow · 08/03/2025 09:32

I've written on here a couple of times about issues at work but now a new problem has arisen, I think.
I an a private person and don't for example celebrate my birthday at work (though I obviously have a great time with friends and family).
Our office is big and busy and many people from different departments hot desk there. One young girl who uses our space has vague links to nhs via her community counselling work. She isn't employed by the nhs but has the logo on her lanyard as well as her charity's logo.
We are relatively friendly and have often chatted briefly in the kitchen while making a cuppa etc. One time she asked my age and birthday and i very politely said that i don't discuss those things at work. It was no big deal and we moved on to talk about other things.
Well this week she approached me with a wink and said, I know how old you are and you look great for your age and I'll give you a card on your birthday now.
I haven't told anyone else in the team my birthday and I don't believe myself and this lady have any friends in common...I am not on any social media.
I suspect she has access to at least some nhs files and databases and I'm worried that she has used her logins to access my records.
She's lovely but quite gossipy and I think she's capable of telling others in my team.
She also very vaguely alluded to a recent health issue I've had but didn't tell anyone about.
I admit given recent events at work, I'm slightly sensitive so I don't want to cause any problems if non exist.
Can I check to see if she's accessed my private nhs records? Am I just being paranoid?

OP posts:
chakrakkhan · 08/03/2025 11:23

She does sound odd. What's her role in the NHS? I will say that not everyone who works for the NHS has readily available access to patient records, databases or log ins find that kind of information. Most have limited, if any, access to where's this kind of information is stored. Everything is logged and it would be quite unusual for someone willing to risk their entire career to find out a colleagues birthday. I imaging she's probably done a bit of googling or asking the right people.

randomer123 · 08/03/2025 11:18

Have you ever been listed on Companies House eg as a director/ company secretary for example, as that can have info such as month and year of birth and is publicly available.

Not excusing her as I find her behaviour weird, but maybe she's looked it up elsewhere?

I agree with you on the not sharing birthday with colleagues etc. I find it a bit cringey when colleagues make a big deal about birthdays.

crockofshite · 08/03/2025 11:18

Very very few office based NHS staff have ( limited) access to the spine, and only if absolutely a requirement to do their job. We have a couple of nominated people across our organisation who we can ask for specific info ie which GP practice a patient is registered with, DoB, check NHS numbers - as part of our job, but not medical records.

I'd contact the IG person with this issue. your colleague might have asked someone else to look it up for her.

Ereerenownow · 08/03/2025 11:12

Hi thanks for all of your messages and support. I'm not sure why some people are calling me weird for not sharing my birthday. I simply dont want people at work to know. Is that really so strange..genuine question?
I'm not tetchy about my age or anything but these people are not my friends...I honestly don't get the pressure from some to share this information.

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ThatGladTiger · 08/03/2025 11:09

FrangipaniBlue · 08/03/2025 11:03

No HR system should allow line managers access to personal information such as birthdays or even home addresses, it's not "need to know" information and comes under GDPR. (ie HR should not be sharing it for anything other than the purpose it was collected).

I agree. I have a team and pur hr system does not have their date of births or home addresses.

StumbleInTheDebris · 08/03/2025 11:08

Don't report her, don't contact HR, don't tell her. As others have said, ask for an audit of who has accessed your records and whether this person is on it.

Then you will know.

Amazed at the people banging on about it being weird not to tell people your birthday. OP clearly mentioned that to explain that the woman wouldn't have found out from other colleagues.

ThatGladTiger · 08/03/2025 11:08

Yes she’s probably had a nose somewhere she shouldn’t.

Is it worth her losing her job for? It’s your DOB, not like another post I saw where she found poster was pregnant and told everyone.

Like a precious poster said, you could have just said your birthday is July etc. It’s not like you’re sharing details about your family set up or your children etc.

I would try and forget it and if she mentions it up say what was suggested before about she clearly got it from somewhere she shouldn’t and walk away and let her stew.

its a glorious day (where I am anyway) don’t waste any more time on this!

FrangipaniBlue · 08/03/2025 11:03

Femb0t · 08/03/2025 10:08

Well surely your line manager knows when your birthday is as it'll be in your HR records.

Maybe she just asked and your line manager told her, not knowing you want it to be such a big secret...

No HR system should allow line managers access to personal information such as birthdays or even home addresses, it's not "need to know" information and comes under GDPR. (ie HR should not be sharing it for anything other than the purpose it was collected).

GaspingGekko · 08/03/2025 11:01

OP, looking at your many previous posts about this place I would really suggest you find another place to work.
It sounds like a nightmare place to work and you clearly don't fit in there. It has been months and months of issues. It's just not worth it.

StumbleInTheDebris · 08/03/2025 11:01

SwedishEdith · 08/03/2025 10:56

The simplest solution is to not be so weird about your birthday.

How does that stop people accessing your health records?
It's not weird to not want to give your DOB to a colleague.

Gundogday · 08/03/2025 10:57

What vague links do you mean? The NHS is a business as a whole, but made up of separate companies, so I’ve go surgery can’t access another’s surgery patients notes, or hospital notes etc, so unless was you’ve had dealings with that NHS department, it’s unlikely they’ll have your records on file.

Has she asked hr?

SwedishEdith · 08/03/2025 10:56

LetMeGoogleThat · 08/03/2025 10:31

Surely, the most simple resolution is just to ask her. I doubt the ICO would opening a complaint.

The simplest solution is to not be so weird about your birthday.

MaybeItWasMe · 08/03/2025 10:53

Agree with PPs - the whole situation is batshit!

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 08/03/2025 10:48

Just request an audit of who has accessed your records, having the d.o.b plus alluding to a recent medical issue makes it sound like she has. You don't need to name her because if she has accessed her name will flag itself up.

DoorToNowhere · 08/03/2025 10:44

This sounds like a situation for people who enjoy a bit of drama. Absolute nonsense.

Wheelz46 · 08/03/2025 10:41

If she has accessed your records without reasoning then that right there is breach of confidential data.

In my line of work, anything we access on the system can be seen behind the scenes. If someone accessed a friend's details on the system and that friend got wind of it, the company would be able to check and the employee would be rightfully disciplined and likely sent on their way with their P45.

I would hope the NHS has something like this in place, especially given the sensitive nature of the records they hold.

LetMeGoogleThat · 08/03/2025 10:38

HelpMeGetThrough · 08/03/2025 10:34

They more than likely wouldn't, but if this person has used any company resource to dig for the information, that should be taken further.

Aye, but there is absolutely nothing to suggest that she has, unless as a counsellor she has the highest level of access to the NHS data systems....which I doubt. She more likely has a common acquaintance with the OP and had the OP just asked, she would also know by now. It's all just very overly dramatic...and I'm a DPO!

HelpMeGetThrough · 08/03/2025 10:34

LetMeGoogleThat · 08/03/2025 10:31

Surely, the most simple resolution is just to ask her. I doubt the ICO would opening a complaint.

They more than likely wouldn't, but if this person has used any company resource to dig for the information, that should be taken further.

Hercisback1 · 08/03/2025 10:33

This is so bizzare.

LetMeGoogleThat · 08/03/2025 10:31

Surely, the most simple resolution is just to ask her. I doubt the ICO would opening a complaint.

CKN · 08/03/2025 10:30

Posters saying to report the issue - FFS why put someone’s career on the line if it resulted in a potential data breech. From the sound of it there was no malicious intent and she was probably just being friendly.

There was a (over a somewhat trivial issue) potential disciplinary issue where I work recently and my colleague took their own life.

I would be very cautious about reporting issues to management level to escalate when the issues can be resolved before it reaches that level.

TooBored1 · 08/03/2025 10:27

Do you have HR at work? I'd mention it to them, that you are uncomfortable with a colleague going out of their way to find personal information about you, especially when you clearly stated your boundary. That in itself is inappropriate.

They should ask her how she found out too.

ExtraOnions · 08/03/2025 10:21

Your year of birth is Public Record, so you can find this out on Ancestry, also tells you which part of the year you were born in (in monthly quarters).
Once you have that, you can do other searches, on Ancestry that can find you if you appear in any family trees (or other places) that may well have your D.O.B on.
It’s not an overly-difficult thing to find out, once you have someone’s name.
…. and just because you think you have a low online profile, don’t presume there is nothing.

Gwenhwyfar · 08/03/2025 10:20

RunAwayTurnAwayRunAwayTurnAway · 08/03/2025 10:13

OP’s colleague sounds deranged.

OP's own attitude to her age is also a bit silly though.

Gwenhwyfar · 08/03/2025 10:19

skilpadde · 08/03/2025 10:12

They wouldn’t share this info.

Ha ha. My work sent around a list with everyone's DOBs on.
Not a huge deal as we often need each other's DOBs to arrange access to things anyway.