To think this is the beginning of the end for Reform

This is totally true. But it does hold back the development of them into a viable political force. For years the reasons the Tories were so successful was that they successfully sat on their own divisions so people saw them as strong. They lost that in plain sight when Brexit happened. Starmer is keeping a tight hold on his party right now although we all know there is all sorts bubbling under. But if you can’t even get five MPs to gel for a year, you’ve got a big problem in building up.

Yes. Lowe said on X that he felt sorry for the "decent people" who'd been deceived by Reform. "You deserved better than this circus". Many of his followers are urging him to set up his own party. ETA I see @PandoraSox said it first.

With Badenoch in charge it's not going to happen for a while. The Tories haven't been centre right since John Major.

@PandoraSox Even if this is the end of Reform (which I doubt unfortunately) don't get your hopes up that it's the end of the far right party, they'll be another one in its place.

UKIP took the far right votes off the BNP, Reform is the new UKIP and on it goes, like those Russian dolls.

Reform supports are largely of the opinion that it's silly/woke/snowflake/"libtard" women who have complained and that it's just banter/heated tempers/workplace dynamics.

That's not the case at all, his supporters believe his denials of the allegations and think it's a smear by Farage. It's been quite an interesting evening following it unfold on X.

Farage’s biggest barrier to political success in his own terms has always been that he can’t run any sort of party. They always disintegrate. Anyone who knows his record predicted this when five got elected. UKIP went from seven to one in the Welsh Assembly.

He does great rabble rousing. But he proves how incredibly hard it is to manage a political party. And the parties he runs attract problematic people.

...In the kitchen isn't it?!

I’m referring to what’s left of the Party. If they’ve kicked him out and in so doing reduced their numbers massively doesn’t that suggest that Reform does not condone that behaviour. It seems harsh to accuse Reform supporters of supporting this man or his behaviour when the Party they support doesn’t.

Tice was a menace on QT, I loved it when Fiona Bruce threatened to muzzle him. 😂

When a group of 5 MPs can’t maintain party discipline for 10 months it’s not a great sign! Lowe was complaining about Farage yesterday, now this happens. Also yesterday, Tice made an idiot of himself on QT and at the press conference in Glasgow. They’re not having the best week..

They’ve not done very well

Reform supports are largely of the opinion that it's silly/woke/snowflake/"libtard" women who have complained and that it's just banter/heated tempers/workplace dynamics. Rupert "tells it like it is" and these complaints are just malicious to try and discredit him. There are actual polls online about whether he should start his own party and many, many Reform supporters urging him to do so along with requests that he ally with Elon Musk, publicly voice his support for Yaxley-Lennon, and that he appeals to Trump.

They don't give a shit about the allegations, they just want to continue hitching their wagon to an MP who legitimises their bigoted views.

Every party has had infighting at some point. I don't know if Labour supporters would be happy about the demise of Reform because right now they are splitting the votes with the Tories, if they disappear the Tories would gain back votes.

Sadly I think they'll weather the storm, they've got money and media behind them

Hasn’t the MP been kicked out for those alleged incidents? Which would mean Reform finding that behaviour completely unacceptable wouldn’t it?

Garage is an angel compared to trim and look how they flock and whoop for trump

sadly no where near the end

The upshot is that Lowe is now an Independent MP and unless he's suspended from Parliament, highly unlikely at the moment, then Reform has just washed their dirty linen in public. No surprise.

They clearly have been winning some by-election seats:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg119n3jqno
https://www.tendringdc.gov.uk/news/new-district-councillor-elected-following-by-election-in-the-bentleys-and-frating-ward
https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/24937156.reform-uk-wins-trevethin-pengarn-by-election-labour/

I’m only surprised that it had taken so long for Reform to start tearing themselves apart. That’s what happened to UKIP, so infighting was always to be expected.

Reform is the Farage show, in exactly the same way as the US Republican Party is now the Trump Show. The first rule of any Farage political project is ‘Thou shalt not criticise the Divine Leader’.

In some ways it’s a shame, because Farage has successfully occupied a clear gap in the British political market, for a party to the right of the Tories which is actually serious about cutting taxes & tackling immigration.

I find the whole UKIP, Brexit party/reform party etc interesting.

They really resonate with the disenfranchised and wheel them in.

Then they just go that leeeetle bit too far and turns out people aren't as racist and/or racist as the party thinks they are.

I think it'll be the beginning of a new party to replace the end of another FR one 😂

The Green Party are constantly in-fighting with each other, but they don't seem to have collapsed. I guess for your prediction about Reform, only time will tell but I don't think you are right, and you can't deny they are gaining ground across a range of demographics.

We can only hope!