Captain Toms daughter

Whatever he was, it's the stupidity of the public who put him there.

The pair are odious and undeserving of the absolute fawning pantomime that the public decided was appropriate.

I missed it sadly. Hopefully I'll find it online.
She & her husband have more front than sainsburys!

I didn't really get the whole Capt Tom thing either. Just was ott imo

Captain Tom was just as dodgy as his daughter, don't make the mistake of thinking he was an innocent old man.

Why is this shameless leech still doing interviews? Haven't she and her husband profited enough?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c86qdq67dd5o

Just had a look at CT's wiki page, which brings back memories of people being taken in by the construct. Reminds me of all that handicapping nonsense. I guess some people needed something meaningful to hold onto in those times. Or - in some cases - downright naivety.

Schadenfreude is alive and well, isn't it?

The 'Tom' thing was a mawkish collective of many people losing their minds during covid and this woman has become a useful effigy for public scorn. She should never have be allowed to get into the position of handling donated money, but she was. I don't 'like her' either but the comments made about her are really 'off'. More vicious than for Rupert Murdoch or any other con-man... odd that.

What this debacle has highlighted is that the Charities Commission needs a lot of work to keep a much tighter rein on what is and isn't acceptable use of monies donated. They deserve a bit of scorn too because they have an actual mandate to ensure that monies are used for the purposes intended.

Last bit of scorn from me goes to 'judge rinder', 'judge judy' and the like. Those that can, practise. Those that can't? Television for the frothing pitchfork public.

Shes a shameless grifter still milking the cash cow years after it ran dry.

She's also not very bright. Why on earth would you expect to be able to pull the wool over RR's eyes. The man's an experienced barrister FFS!

Totally agree. I never got the hype from day one. Some old boy walking round his garden and the nation went into some sort of collective insanity .

Shows how bored many people were during lockdown to applaud this nonsense and as you say, the gravy train of freebies carried on rolling until he caught covid on a free jolly up bring all the family for noticing holiday and passed again.

Seems the daughter is still trying to ride the gravy train and I’m pleased to see RR tearing her a new one with his customary calm professional manner.

Shes a shameless grifter still milking the cash cow years after it ran dry. Why she’s not up in court for fraud I don’t know.

There are risks to balance, for sure, and a friend’s mum’s dementia worsened quickly possibly as a result of isolation (though she did live with a family member). There are ways to limit isolation without direct personal contact though. I live alone and it wasn’t pleasant, but I used modern communication methods to stay connected. I got Covid (relatively mildly) early on from work (teacher - in regularly with vulnerable children) and even that wasn’t pleasant.

I recall seeing a news item on FB about a Russian babushka who was emulating his "feat", so her PR obviously worked. (Yes, the Russian news item specifically referenced "Captain Tom".

@User32459 Ms Moore is baned from being a charity director for ten years. Most senior roles require a form of DBS check at companies house and the charities commission. However she's not banned from setting up another company. I suspect that the advance for the books has been spent and she delivers or returns the money. Fraud couldn't be proven as it was a case of 'operating expenses' were high. Including her and her husband's salaries. Nothing left in the pot.

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@cardibach

"You’d have to be a bit of a fool to risk exposing an older person to it"

well my view was you'd have to be a bit of a fool to risk exposing an older person to social isolation with all the attendant mental and physical decline that comes with it.

Hook it to my veins

My dad was dead by then. He died before covid. Tom reminded me (and other friends who knew him) of my dad in his turn of phrase and even facially in the early interviews. People aren’t fools for loving their elderly/deceased relatives and neither are they fools for following the best advice available at the time. People were avoiding the elderly because the elderly are way, way more vulnerable to covid. You’d have to be a bit of a fool to risk exposing an older person to it (which is, of course, the point we began to wonder about the Capt. Tom thing - when he was put at risk).

She should be on trial for fraud at the least.

They're absolute twats. Who decides their elderly dad can "earn" their birthday present by doing laps around the garden? Which, by the way, was the size of a stately home. It's so fucked up. And more fool "the public" for supporting this nonsense.

"Captain Tom" was a construct, whatever her faults she did an amazing marketing job from an old man shuffling round his garden.

I thought the whole thing was bizarre even at the time, but I think some people wanted something positive to cling on to and the version of him presented seemed to embody UK traditional values.

Why the fuck does she think maintaining a public presence is a good thing
even if she’s trying to clear her name, it’s not working. Just go and live a quiet life somewhere!!

@REP22 I agree about his other daughter. It's also strange that apparently Tom wanted the profits from his autobiography to only go to Hannah so that "he'd know they'd be ok". It's never been reported that he was in bad terms with his eldest daughter, so why wouldn't he want her to "be ok" too? 🤔.

I can't find a clip anywhere does anyone have it?

why on earth did you feel sorry for him?
he didn't have dementia and was well aware of the con going on.
He looked happy enough to me to be on his holiday

really annoys me that people think once you're old you turn into some sweet litt;le old thing

The difference is that people have an out, here.

With most grifters, people won't admit that they were grifters because they don't want to accept they were taken in. People hate admitting they were wrong.

Here there's an opportunity to say "Oh I wasn't wrong about Captain Tom, he was a lovely old man, but it's her, she's spoiled it, I never liked her in the first place!" Which is nonsense, but because it allows the people who were taken in to be angry at someone without admitting their own fault, they jump at it.

This always enraged me too

I felt so sorry for him when they dragged him on a plane to Barbados or somewhere on a freebie. And I’m pretty sure it was mid Covid time too. You just wouldn’t.

I have to say... the Michael Ball/Tom record was an absolute assault on the eardrums. I am gobsmacked anyone would think of buying it!