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I’ve reported my friend for an NHS confidentiality breech

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BundleOfCookies · 06/03/2025 23:19

I have a (now ex) friend who works for the NHS who works as a clerical officer who we’ll call Karen. I’m in the early stages of pregnancy and haven’t told anyone other than my dh. Had my first midwife appointment and since this, I’ve had some congratulations texts from people within my friendship group. When I queried how they knew I was pregnant, they said they heard it from Karen. When I asked Karen about this she said she saw it on my file, and shrugged like it wasn’t a big deal. I’m really upset that she’s just looked me up on her hospitals system like this. She works where my appointments are and openly said that she’s done this and has done it to a few of us in the group so she knows what’s going on. It’s my first pregnancy and I’m so anxious and I’m so upset so many people know about it.

At the time I was so angry I instantly filed a complaint to the hospital. Information governance then contacted me to say they’d be conducting an internal audit. This was 3 weeks ago and I’ve not heard anything since. I’m still upset with Karen but I now feel so guilty I’ve done this. I don’t want her to loose her job. Karen knows I’ve done this because I’ve told her and she’s livid and none of our mutual friends are talking to me now.

Is there anyone here who works for the NHS who can explain what happens in these situations? I’m guessing everything is fine because I’ve not heart anything from information governance since but I’m so worried

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Millymoonshine · 07/03/2025 02:46

I once saw that someone my ds had previously worked with had a stillbirth. That was nearly 20 years ago, afaik my ds doesn’t know and never will from me.

Your friend was so wrong @BundleOfCookies and very stupid to tell people.
Your actions in reporting her will stop others from having their private information gossiped about so don’t feel bad.

endofthelinefinally · 07/03/2025 02:30

I would ask your "friends" if they are happy that she is reading their confidential medical records? I doubt you are the only friend she has looked up. Nosy people like this should not have access to confidential information. She isn't suited to the job.

LillyPJ · 07/03/2025 02:28

Regardless of the confidentiality breach (which is appalling), it's terrible that she told people behind your back; that's entirely your privilege. It's over 40 years ago now, but I still remember the thrill of going into work and telling my workmates I was pregnant, and how surprised and excited they were.

researchers3 · 07/03/2025 02:11

Enough4me · 06/03/2025 23:23

She needs a warning and retraining. You were right to highlight it.

It's more serious than that. She's already been 'trained' and it didn't work, did it?

RawBloomers · 07/03/2025 02:09

I think you need to refind some of that anger, OP. This wasn’t a mistake where she just happened to find out in the course of her work and then accidentally let it out to your friends.

She deliberately spies on you and your friends - so that she can talk about it. This time it’s the news you’re pregnant, happy news that your friends are going to find out about anyway. But what if it was something else?

What if you or one of your friends had had an abortion, or got difficult news about your baby? What if you had some other medical condition that impacted your pregnancy that you didn’t want to share with her or anyone else, at any point? What if your child has some issues you don’t want to share?

But she goes looking anyway.

Even if she had the discretion not to share it (and there are no guarantees) you would still be talking to her, pretending there was nothing wrong/nothing had happened, and she would know. It would change the way she saw you. And she has deliberately put herself and you (and all the people she’s looked up) in a position where that was a significant possibility.

Do not apologise to her. Let your friends know what she’s like because they are also in a position where she’s seen their records too.

Refind your anger.

Let the NHS audit and disciplinary process take its course (call them up and ask about time lines if it’s leaving you on edge not knowing). Maybe it’s not serious enough to get her fired. But if it is, then that’s because she should not be in the job and it’s good she would not be in a position to do it again.

2021x · 07/03/2025 02:03

She lost her job the second she started accessing peoples records. Its even forbidden to check your own records.

You did the right thing. Even if they can't prove it i.e. she just looked over peoples shoulders they can keep an eye on heer for now and she will go mandatory training.

When your friends get pissy with you say imagine if she saw you had chlamydia and started telling people to clean the toilet seat afterwards.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 07/03/2025 01:57

@BundleOfCookies
Well done on reporting... You'll have stopped this woman leaking more personal information.

ChellyT · 07/03/2025 01:57

I'm sorry @BundleOfCookies that you've been put in this position.

Can the others in the group only imagine if there was something quite private that you would prefer kept private in any of your files?

Karen has the gall to stick her nose in where it was not asked! She would have been logged every time she went into a file, I presume like others have suggested that the ethics committee are completing a thorough audit of all of her logs.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 07/03/2025 01:55

She'll be sacked and rightly so

Massive breach.

The only role she's suitable for is away from ANY data... And not in NHS /private practise.

There is NO excuse... It is drummed into you when you work in NHS.

She is so dim /arrogant that she thought she'd get away with it..

NoBinturongsHereMate · 07/03/2025 01:45

Thank you for reporting.

It is a massive information governance/GDPR breach - which she will know because she will have had mandatory annual training telling her so - and almost certainly gross misconduct. She absolutely should lose her job.

verycloakanddaggers · 07/03/2025 01:35

blueshoes · 07/03/2025 01:09

Out of curiosity, when the NHS conducts an audit of her digital footprint, how would they know that she is accessing records without authority? Would they cross-check the cases she is working on with the names of the persons whose records she accessed?

Yes. They can see if person x has accessed a record. Then they can investigate whether there was a legitimate reason for accessing that record at that time. If there's a legitimate reason to access it and they subsequently gossiped that's harder to deal with than if there is no legitimate reason to be in your record at that time.

echt · 07/03/2025 01:31

ItisIbeserk · 07/03/2025 01:24

OP, why did she look at your records to find this out? Had she seen you at the clinic? Was she doing regular spot checks on her friends’ records?

Read the OP's OP. She is very clear on this.

lifeonmars100 · 07/03/2025 01:26

You did the correct thing in reporting her. She will have been trained in patient confidentiality and will know that she should not under any circumstances be passing on personal information. Did she even have any right to access your records (appointment booking for example) or does she just have a good nose around in the data base to satisfy her own curiosity. If it is the latter then she has committed a double breach by reading information she should not be privy to and then passing it on

ItisIbeserk · 07/03/2025 01:24

OP, why did she look at your records to find this out? Had she seen you at the clinic? Was she doing regular spot checks on her friends’ records?

Fedupmumofadultsons · 07/03/2025 01:24

She will get sacked but they need to prove the case it's gross misconduct.cheeky cow that she is

TheOneWithTheWedding · 07/03/2025 01:23

BundleOfCookies · 06/03/2025 23:31

They’ve said what she’s done is bad but me reporting her is worse because she can loose her job

She should lose her job for this. Confidentiality is paramount in her role

socks1107 · 07/03/2025 01:16

I was accused of this a few years ago by my ex husbands new partner. I hadn't looked her up and never would but I was restricted from all computers and an investigation took place. I was told I'd be escorted from the building if they found anything.
They didn't as I hadn't done it and I was offered counselling

endofthelinefinally · 07/03/2025 01:14

Just a note for information. If anyone ever suspects that their personal health records have been accessed inappropriately, the correct way to report is to contact the Caldicott Guardian for the practice or Trust. Not PALS or anyone else.
In General Practice this is most likely to be the practice manager, in hospital it will be a senior person in management or HR. The information is on the Trust or Practice website and can be searched online. By going directly to the CG the whole process can happen swiftly and discreetly.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/03/2025 01:11

What Karen did was completely unacceptable. Looking up patient records and then telling people confidential medical information - Jesus! I'm so glad you reported her. She's untrustworthy and not fit to work in that job, if that's what she does. I'm sure that's against some kind of rules and regulations. Telling your friends that you're pregnant!!!!

scoobysnaxx · 07/03/2025 01:11

You were absolutely unquestionably correct to report her. This is a gross breach of confidentiality and it's astounding she was so brazen about it.

She should be sacked.

blueshoes · 07/03/2025 01:09

Out of curiosity, when the NHS conducts an audit of her digital footprint, how would they know that she is accessing records without authority? Would they cross-check the cases she is working on with the names of the persons whose records she accessed?

arecklessmanor · 07/03/2025 01:05

LBFseBrom · 07/03/2025 00:07

She will be interviewed and reprimanded, she could be fired. Someone i knew spoke about a patient by name at a departmental dinner and was sacked. She just blurted something out. However your friend may get away with it if it's a one off and she will certainly not do it again, lesson learned.

I generally don't go for grassing people up but I do believe confidential means confidential. Patients have to be able to trust all staff in a medical environment.

It doesn't sound as though you have been confidential about it if all your mutual friends know. There was no need for anyone else to know surely. Your friend is the one in the wrong, should have known better.

OP hasn’t been confidential about it because she had to ask the mutual friends how they knew about her pregnancy!

I would have been livid of someone had done this, I actually didn’t tell anyone apart from DH and work about my pregnancy until well after the anomaly scan.

echt · 07/03/2025 01:05

Thedogscollar · 07/03/2025 01:00

I've commented on this thread earlier and I wrote breech instead of breach.
Shoot me now! I too think it's rude to point out small errors when we know exactly what the OP meant.
The laughable thing is I'm a midwife so I should know the difference between breech and breach.

Exactly!!!

Mistakes are so easy on the latest iteration of whatever MN uses for posts, and they quite often default to the last likely option. There instead of their springs to mind. In fact just typing made it opt for there immediately. Grin

YourHappyJadeEagle · 07/03/2025 01:05

What she has done is awful. Total betrayal of trust.
The rules are there to protect patients as our most confidential information, that we trust the medical profession to keep confidential, is stored in hospitals and GP surgeries.
She is clearly unsuited to her job, has taken nothing on board from her training and thinks she can access medical records and spread gossip.
You have nothing to feel bad about, in fact you should be proud of yourself. People like that do not belong in positions of trust.

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