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Outrageous comments from best friend:s DP

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Lucelady · 06/03/2025 18:49

I'm shocked and don't know what to say.
My friend of thirty plus years moved in with a new partner last year.
She had few options due to three divorces and very few savings.
I've met the chap once, he seemed OK but over handy for my liking. Both her adult daughters have said they don't like him. I thought it was an age and class thing (he's 27 years younger).
It turns out he is an admirer of Hitler and Trump.
I said to my friend well he won't be invited to dinner here. He apparently made the statements at a family party last week. The daughters quite rightly walked out. I'm disabled, my husband not white. My uncles POW. I can't believe she's with him. She was very lonely. Aibu to be shocked or none of my business?

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smooththecat · 07/03/2025 13:29

Marchitectmummy · 07/03/2025 05:16

Honestly I don't understand why people need to make wild comparisons. Trump isn't like Hitler anymore than anyone else is.

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I think if you perpetuate the belief that Hitler was absolutely exceptional, no one ever like him before or after, you are kidding yourself. He’s just one massive evil bloke who could have been stopped, there were many opportunities to stop him that were missed. And yes, there were many apologists along the way.

Edit: punc.

smooththecat · 07/03/2025 13:24

Anonycat · 07/03/2025 07:08

What? You think liking dogs means someone is a reasonable human being?

Hitler loved dogs and had a pet dog. It was a German shepherd called Blondi.

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Yeah, he used the dog to test his cyanide capsules. It died.

NancyBellaDonna · 07/03/2025 13:19

Despot & pup.

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^ That's how dogs bark in Russian

Outrageous comments from best friend:s DP
LegoTherapy · 07/03/2025 13:04

@RockyRogue1001 I don't know who Sharon from Eastenders is and I haven't read all the posts so have missed it. I know who Dot Cotton is though. I'm not totally uneducated.

BlueBatsAndOranges · 07/03/2025 12:07

Nah too much Trump/Hitler talk. I’m out.

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thepariscrimefiles · 07/03/2025 11:28

Horriblevirusagain · 06/03/2025 20:43

Hitler and Zelensky are Dictators.
Trump is a leader who wants peace and what's best for his people.

I wish Mumsnet would specify a minimum IQ and EQ score before posters are allowed to post.

You would fail both tests and we wouldn't have to read such drivel.

Trump wants what's best for himself, his billionaire friends and his fellow rapists and sex offenders.

CJsGoldfish · 07/03/2025 10:32

ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/03/2025 06:32

But Trump is sending people back to their own countries who entered illegally. Sending them home, for breaking laws that all countries have about illegal immigration. Not sending them to death camps because of their religion! I see what you mean about some of the similarities in coming to power, but I still think the Trump/Hiter comparisons are very off-colour and inaccurate considering what Hitler did. I agree with a PP about the comparison being insulting to Holocaust victims.

Meh.
Holocaust survivors have made the comparison so I'll assume they know what they are talking about.

Trump studied Hitler's speeches, that is well known. He is absolutely comparable to Hitler in those early years as many who were there have warned.
You don't think ordinary Germans felt the same way about Hitler as those defending Trump feel?
Pretty sure that the majority of those who are uncomfortable with the comparison feel that way simply because of what acknowledging it says about them🤷‍♀️

This is interesting reading
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/08/09/leading-civil-rights-lawyer-shows-20-ways-trump-copying-hitlers-early-rhetoric-and

Leading Civil Rights Lawyer Shows 20 Ways Trump Is Copying Hitler's Early Rhetoric and Policies | Common Dreams

The author, Burt Neuborne, is one of America’s top civil liberties lawyers, and questions whether federal government can contain Trump and GOP power grabs.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/08/09/leading-civil-rights-lawyer-shows-20-ways-trump-copying-hitlers-early-rhetoric-and

AthWat · 07/03/2025 08:59

Yummydindins123 · 07/03/2025 08:18

Because it encourages American companies back to their own country.

you don’t know what woke means?!!!! You need to do some reading.

If you think everyone has a shared and exact definition of "woke" then I think it's you that needs to do some reading.
Why won't you just simply explain what your definition is?

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 07/03/2025 08:26

you don’t know what woke means?!!!! You need to do some reading.

I think people want to know what YOU think woke means.

Yummydindins123 · 07/03/2025 08:18

JHound · 07/03/2025 08:09

How is making the cost of their imports more expensive “pro-US business”?

You used the term “woke culture” why can’t you explain what it is?

Because it encourages American companies back to their own country.

you don’t know what woke means?!!!! You need to do some reading.

JHound · 07/03/2025 08:09

Yummydindins123 · 06/03/2025 23:22

US tariffs are pro business within their own country -Trump argues that tariffs on imports (especially from China) would make American-made products more competitive by increasing the cost of foreign goods.
This was intended to help domestic industries like steel, aluminum, and automotive manufacturing by reducing reliance on cheaper imports.

Regarding woke culture - well you can google that if you late trying to be a provocateur.

How is making the cost of their imports more expensive “pro-US business”?

You used the term “woke culture” why can’t you explain what it is?

AthWat · 07/03/2025 08:06

ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/03/2025 06:32

But Trump is sending people back to their own countries who entered illegally. Sending them home, for breaking laws that all countries have about illegal immigration. Not sending them to death camps because of their religion! I see what you mean about some of the similarities in coming to power, but I still think the Trump/Hiter comparisons are very off-colour and inaccurate considering what Hitler did. I agree with a PP about the comparison being insulting to Holocaust victims.

Do you think Hitler started off by sending people to death camps, or do you think it was the culmination of discrimatory policies that started in a milder form?

There have been many people "as evil as Hitler". There's many alive today.

The only thing that made Hitler worse was that he was allowed to take and wield power. Others have been opposed before they get that far.

AllTheTreesOfTheField · 07/03/2025 07:57

Morning all!

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AngelicKaty · 07/03/2025 07:48

Horriblevirusagain · 06/03/2025 20:43

Hitler and Zelensky are Dictators.
Trump is a leader who wants peace and what's best for his people.

Your comment is beyond ignorant. How is Zelenskyy a dictator? Go on, just for my amusement. 🙄

Errors · 07/03/2025 07:46

ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/03/2025 06:42

Wow! What kind of dog is that?

It’s a German Shepherd I believe, an all black one 😍

Keepingthingsinteresting · 07/03/2025 07:40

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Oh do fuck off dear, your warmongering fantasies are not welcome here.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 07/03/2025 07:22

Yes he does say some controversial things but he speaks his mind which is poignant in this world. There is such a freedom of speech and to say someone is wrong for listening to opposing views is narrow minded.

He lies. He lies an awful lot.
His version of 'freedom of speech' is to lie constantly and make personal attacks. Trump, Vance and Musk are behaving like children. It's actually embarrassing to watch.
The vast majority of his policies make no sense and are harmful.

It's not narrow minded to listen to opposing views, in fact I think it's important. However, I do think it's reasonable to question the morals and intelligence of those who agree with Trump and are so keen to jump to his defence.

Cucy · 07/03/2025 07:20

I totally understand the moving in part!

Its something my mum and sister do.

Fortunately my mum has been very lucky and been able to leave but my sister is stuck and has no where else to go if she leaves.

I think there’s also an element of not wanting to leave out of embarrassment as my sisters first marriages didn’t work out and now this relationship isn’t working out.
I can only imagine how it must feel for your friend.

If I was you, I would keep telling her how much you admire her and how strong she is for leaving the relationships that didn’t work out and how you love that she puts herself first and doesn’t let a man weigh her down etc.
You could be saying it about the previous relationships but hopefully it will boost her confidence to leave this man.

I find if you are negative about the relationship it makes people stay, so you have to tread very carefully.

I’m sorry your thread has been taken over with posters who obviously have nothing better to do.

You posted wanting advice because you care about your friend and unfortunately posters have tried making it all about themselves instead.

Anonycat · 07/03/2025 07:08

Lucelady · 07/03/2025 07:01

Thank you all. I love dogs.
The fascist has two and that's usually a good indicator of a reasonable man.

Hopefully as my friend has told me about his views she's making plans to leave. I won't entertain him and luckily I don't have that many occasions to avoid him.

I think if you've moved in with someone and you have limited choices it's hard to say I've made a mistake. I don't know what that feels like having been married for 30+ years.

What? You think liking dogs means someone is a reasonable human being?

Hitler loved dogs and had a pet dog. It was a German shepherd called Blondi.

Lucelady · 07/03/2025 07:01

Thank you all. I love dogs.
The fascist has two and that's usually a good indicator of a reasonable man.

Hopefully as my friend has told me about his views she's making plans to leave. I won't entertain him and luckily I don't have that many occasions to avoid him.

I think if you've moved in with someone and you have limited choices it's hard to say I've made a mistake. I don't know what that feels like having been married for 30+ years.

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ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/03/2025 06:42

Errors · 06/03/2025 20:51

Look at this distinguished gentleman

Wow! What kind of dog is that?

ThisFluentBiscuit · 07/03/2025 06:32

CJsGoldfish · 06/03/2025 23:51

No, they are actually very similar in far too many ways. There are quite a few historians who have spoken about the similar ways in which each came to power, one particularly talking about them as political performers, strong on extremist language but vague on policies.
The rhetorical strategies of both are very alike as is the whole PR aspect
Actually, the rhetoric of both are strikingly similar in their racism and dehuminisation and Trump has absolutely adopted tactics of Hitler, validating his supporters fears and blaming all of society's ills on a perceived 'group'

Similarly, Trump is now moving to control the media, handpicking who gets to ask questions in briefings and press conferences. And who even attends.

Trumps campaign was based partly on the demonisation of a whole group of people and their affect on ruining the good ol USA. He is talking about 'relocating' people from their homes en mass in a country that isn't even his. He wants to annexe other countries in any way possible. The rounding up of those he despises and sending them to camps to live in conditions that are unimaginable.
Lets not forget that he said that if he lost, it would be partly the fault of the Jews. He also failed to mention the word Jew in an earlier Holocaust remembrence speech. He did mention a 'unified reich' another time though

It is absolutely right to remember the pure evil of Hitler but it is wrong to forget that he started much slower to play on peoples fears and anger about economical and social issues. And there are far far too many similarities to pretend there isn't just to justify the support of the Orange Hitler 🤷‍♀️

Hitler and Trump are nothing alike. It would have been more believable if you had said he liked Zelensky and Hitler
See above 🙄

But Trump is sending people back to their own countries who entered illegally. Sending them home, for breaking laws that all countries have about illegal immigration. Not sending them to death camps because of their religion! I see what you mean about some of the similarities in coming to power, but I still think the Trump/Hiter comparisons are very off-colour and inaccurate considering what Hitler did. I agree with a PP about the comparison being insulting to Holocaust victims.

Marchitectmummy · 07/03/2025 05:16

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Honestly I don't understand why people need to make wild comparisons. Trump isn't like Hitler anymore than anyone else is.

Stirabout · 07/03/2025 03:26

Well why not
In for a penny as they say

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Stirabout · 07/03/2025 03:20

LegoTherapy · 06/03/2025 23:39

This thread has got it all:

Driving Dogs!
Dons
Zelensky
The Prince of Wales/postman on Wednesday
Prisoners of War
Driving Cats
Hitler
Trump
Inheritance
Sex
Desperate woman
Dodgy friend
Even dodgier bloke
Worried daughters
A bird on roller skates

What more could we ask for on a Thursday evening?

Elephant sliding down a mud bank…we haven’t had that !

oo sorry no…I think it’s trump…downhill all the way now

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