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To expect a full refund minus one night from this Air BnB host? Air BnB experts help please!!!

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Iamthemoom · 06/03/2025 15:25

Booked an Air Bnb for 22 nights in London. Arrived to find that there were more omissions to the listing than facts. Described as 'lovely' and 'cosy', the flat was literally on a busy roundabout, very noisy, on the ground floor of a very dodgy block of flats which was in serious disrepair.

The door to the flat itself didn't close securely and the lock didn't work properly. It felt incredibly insecure and unsafe.

There was a terrible stench in the flat which they had attempted to cover with multiple air fresheners and plug ins. These gave DD such a bad headache and nausea we thought she might have a virus but this stopped within 5 mins of leaving the flat and she was fine.

Neighbours were very noisy and woke us in early hours banging and crashing about. There was a lot of antisocial behaviour in the block too.

We arrived super late last night so braved it but immediately messaged the host early this morning explaining the issues and that we can't stay somewhere unsafe with this awful smell for another 21 nights. We packed up and found a hotel for the moment.

As we had to pay upfront the full fee (around £2k) we asked for a refund minus the night we stayed. Host (which is a rental management company) is refusing claiming all the issues we mention are out of their control and no one else has complained (they have 5 reviews) and directed us to AirBnB resolution centre who say they are passing to a speciality team.

What are the chances Air BnB will side with us and refund?
We did take out the Air Bnb insurance - will that cover us if not?

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Pasithean · 06/03/2025 16:19

Moral of the story is don’t use air B &B.

Newlittlerescue · 06/03/2025 16:15

Caspianberg · 06/03/2025 16:02

How exactly did the lock not work? Was it with a key or code?

I don’t think you have to have fire doors etc by law on air b and b? And I don’t think there’s any rules about how a door locks. I assume key or card or code is fine as long as it actually locks safely.
Unless that’s a British law on short stays in general

As above, new England & Wales legislation means you have to have keyless exit in short-term lets (it's not an AirBnB thing). Also must have fire resistant doors, however these aren't necessarily the soft-close heavy fire doors you see in offices, these just have to hold a fire back for 30 minutes, so typically a normal 40mm timber door that many houses/flats have as standard.

NettleTea · 06/03/2025 16:07

Caspianberg · 06/03/2025 16:02

How exactly did the lock not work? Was it with a key or code?

I don’t think you have to have fire doors etc by law on air b and b? And I don’t think there’s any rules about how a door locks. I assume key or card or code is fine as long as it actually locks safely.
Unless that’s a British law on short stays in general

new rules brought in last year mean, yes, you do need to have fire doors that isolate rooms from others where a fire is likely to break out.
So bedrooms, and kitchen, but not bathrooms, in any holiday let

Caspianberg · 06/03/2025 16:02

How exactly did the lock not work? Was it with a key or code?

I don’t think you have to have fire doors etc by law on air b and b? And I don’t think there’s any rules about how a door locks. I assume key or card or code is fine as long as it actually locks safely.
Unless that’s a British law on short stays in general

nodramaplz · 06/03/2025 15:58

newkettleandtoaster · 06/03/2025 15:38

It's London.

I don't think you can really complain that the flat was on a busy roundabout, there was noise outside, or the neighbours were noisy.

That's just life, and it always amazes me when people think they are entitled to a refund for things like this.

Also, £2k for 22 nights in London. £90 per night. It also amazes me when people pay for something cheap yet expect perfection and complain about it.

I think she only wanted what she was offered & then paid for!
I don't think OP is expecting anything she hasn't bought!

ShowAndGo · 06/03/2025 15:58

I think AirBNB scan for key words in complaints, with safety being a major red flag for them. I private messaged a host to let him know that the lack of mat backing on a slippy hall mat was 'a bit dangerous' and immediately got an incomprehensible urgent contact from AirBNB to help resolve my personal safety issues. Other than the mat, the stay was fantastic and it took a bizarre amount of arguing from me to reassure the 'specialist customer support team' that actually it was a perfectly safe flat...

Have you got photos of the lock not working? Did you check that it was compliant with fire regulations (main fire escape door should be keyless, fire doors on bedrooms, linked smoke detectors in bedrooms, etc). I would stress how unsafe you and your DD felt.

Gundogday · 06/03/2025 15:57

Some of those issues are out if the owners control - noisy neighbours, roundabout etc.and the area. However, the unsafe lock and smell are not acceptable. The only thing I’d say is that you didn’t give the hosts a chance to rectify the situation before leaving.

Popfull · 06/03/2025 15:55

The key is the non working lock op
that is your hook

Popfull · 06/03/2025 15:55

I hope you didn’t mention the noisy roundabout op
because that will be immediately ignored in an case

Naunet · 06/03/2025 15:55

Wouldn't matter if it was £5 a night in Knightsbridge, the door still needs to lock properly.

Iamthemoom · 06/03/2025 15:52

WiddlinDiddlin · 06/03/2025 15:50

That rotten, 'not quite damp but sort of but really rank' smell sounds very like broken drains/raw sewage thats sat a while!

Where you may struggle is you should give the host chance to fix things like a nasty stench or broken lock.. and you haven't. However they do favour the customer so fingers x!

We couldn't stay there with DD as it was making her unwell and felt totally unsafe - ground floor flat with a door that doesn't lock properly in super dodgy area. Plus impossible to sleep between the awful smell and the noisy neighbours, roundabout etc.

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LlynTegid · 06/03/2025 15:51

Lack of a working lock and the door issue is material. For that you should get a refund I think.

Even though I think you should not have used Air BnB in the first place, and helping to price people out of a home in London.

Newlittlerescue · 06/03/2025 15:50

A flat can be 'lovely' and 'cosy' yet still be on a busy roundabout in an undesirable area, so I wouldn't focus on that in your complaint - the broken door lock, yes; the smell, yes; and if it differed materially from the photos (which I don't think you've said it does?).

Did the flat meet fire safety rules? Namely keyless exit (thumbturn lock), interlinked smoke alarms in every room except bathroom (i.e. one goes off, they all do), fire risk assessment on property? If it didn't, that would seriously help your case for a refund.

WiddlinDiddlin · 06/03/2025 15:50

That rotten, 'not quite damp but sort of but really rank' smell sounds very like broken drains/raw sewage thats sat a while!

Where you may struggle is you should give the host chance to fix things like a nasty stench or broken lock.. and you haven't. However they do favour the customer so fingers x!

Iamthemoom · 06/03/2025 15:45

@Bunny44 Thank you. No not damp, very hard to pin down but a really rotten stench plus the air fresheners which were everywhere implying they knew it was uninhabitable with that smell.

Everyone saying it's our fault as it was cheap etc - it was a comparable price to other flats in the area and is way out of central London. We also got a long stay discount. And yes we realise exactly how stupid we are to get something without 100s of reviews (which none of the flats round here had), but we had to book something quickly in an area with very few Air Bnbs!

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Movinghouseatlast · 06/03/2025 15:43

I'm a host,on quite a few host forums. Air BnB mostly side with the guest no matter what, so if you get refused a refund keep trying.

The safety aspect of the door not closing is the key thing here. Stress 'safety' a lot. Did it have a key free main door? By law it should( as well as smoke alarms in every room) If it didn't again that's a safety issue.

Less than £100 a night is incredibly cheap anywhere, but especially London. It means the host is charging £85 a night as the rest is fees that go straight to Air BnB. But you should still expect a safe environment.

Don't threaten them with a bad review if you don't get a refund. This is the one and only sure fire way your review won't be published. Don't review now, it won't show up for 2 weeks anyway unless the host reviews you.

Bunny44 · 06/03/2025 15:42

@Iamthemoom word of caution, do not threaten the host with a bad review if they don't refund as this won't go down well with Air BnB and could compromise the refund process.

Iamthemoom · 06/03/2025 15:41

newkettleandtoaster · 06/03/2025 15:38

It's London.

I don't think you can really complain that the flat was on a busy roundabout, there was noise outside, or the neighbours were noisy.

That's just life, and it always amazes me when people think they are entitled to a refund for things like this.

Also, £2k for 22 nights in London. £90 per night. It also amazes me when people pay for something cheap yet expect perfection and complain about it.

As I explained it is WAY out and all flats in the area were around this price, plus the long stay discount so we were not expecting something unrealistic. Just a safe stay without being poisoned by a toxic stench! But thanks for being so helpful!

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Glorybox2025 · 06/03/2025 15:41

Iamthemoom · 06/03/2025 15:39

Not yet as we were hoping for a refund. Should we do that while Air Bnb are still considering the case? Or wait until it's settled?

You only get 14 days to review, don't let that period lapse.

Popfull · 06/03/2025 15:40

Iamthemoom · 06/03/2025 15:39

Not yet as we were hoping for a refund. Should we do that while Air Bnb are still considering the case? Or wait until it's settled?

You won’t be able to if a case is ongoing

Bunny44 · 06/03/2025 15:40

Iamthemoom · 06/03/2025 15:38

@Bunny44 IT certainly wasn't the cheapest flat in the area and it presented as one of the best. It is a LONG way out. We searched for a nicer area where the work is but the only available flats were in this adjacent not so nice area. We did research the area showing on the listing but they only gave the actual address after we paid so it was impossible to know how bad it would be. One minute walk either side is great.

Thank you for being helpful and hopefully the photos will do it but you can't photograph a smell so impossible to get across how bad it was!

Yes but according to what I've seen on the forums it looks like they tend to side with the guest on that one. Sounds like you've done everything you need to. Was it a damp smell?

Iamthemoom · 06/03/2025 15:39

MissMoneyFairy · 06/03/2025 15:36

Have you left a review and uploaded the photos on Airbnb site, it sounds bloody awful.

Not yet as we were hoping for a refund. Should we do that while Air Bnb are still considering the case? Or wait until it's settled?

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newkettleandtoaster · 06/03/2025 15:38

It's London.

I don't think you can really complain that the flat was on a busy roundabout, there was noise outside, or the neighbours were noisy.

That's just life, and it always amazes me when people think they are entitled to a refund for things like this.

Also, £2k for 22 nights in London. £90 per night. It also amazes me when people pay for something cheap yet expect perfection and complain about it.

Iamthemoom · 06/03/2025 15:38

@Bunny44 IT certainly wasn't the cheapest flat in the area and it presented as one of the best. It is a LONG way out. We searched for a nicer area where the work is but the only available flats were in this adjacent not so nice area. We did research the area showing on the listing but they only gave the actual address after we paid so it was impossible to know how bad it would be. One minute walk either side is great.

Thank you for being helpful and hopefully the photos will do it but you can't photograph a smell so impossible to get across how bad it was!

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Bunny44 · 06/03/2025 15:37

mintgreensoftlilac · 06/03/2025 15:35

Hi, this sounds awful! I really hope you manage to find somewhere suitable for the rest of your stay. Unfortunately I'm not sure you'll get the resolution you want here. We had a bit of an Airbnb disaster a couple of years back (left in the middle of nowhere in a villa in Spain which had no power or water for 3 days of our 2 week holiday). We requested a refund for the 3 days we were without power and water but were refused and were just given a tiny token amount instead. The hosts (a management company) seemed incredulous that I'd requested the refund and thought I was being unreasonable with the amount I was requesting back. During the stay they did offer for us to leave early and refund us for the unused nights but we decided to stay as we would have been even more out of pocket, had to find somewhere available, pack up all our things etc etc when we only had a few nights left. Your saving grace here might be that you did actually leave so they technically could re-let it for the nights you had booked, in which case they would be unreasonable not to refund you. Really hope it works out for you!

Yes the issue here was that you chose to stay although as a host I would have offered a partial refund if the guest chose to stay. You can't expect a full refund if you're still there unfortunately.