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To expect a full refund minus one night from this Air BnB host? Air BnB experts help please!!!

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Iamthemoom · 06/03/2025 15:25

Booked an Air Bnb for 22 nights in London. Arrived to find that there were more omissions to the listing than facts. Described as 'lovely' and 'cosy', the flat was literally on a busy roundabout, very noisy, on the ground floor of a very dodgy block of flats which was in serious disrepair.

The door to the flat itself didn't close securely and the lock didn't work properly. It felt incredibly insecure and unsafe.

There was a terrible stench in the flat which they had attempted to cover with multiple air fresheners and plug ins. These gave DD such a bad headache and nausea we thought she might have a virus but this stopped within 5 mins of leaving the flat and she was fine.

Neighbours were very noisy and woke us in early hours banging and crashing about. There was a lot of antisocial behaviour in the block too.

We arrived super late last night so braved it but immediately messaged the host early this morning explaining the issues and that we can't stay somewhere unsafe with this awful smell for another 21 nights. We packed up and found a hotel for the moment.

As we had to pay upfront the full fee (around £2k) we asked for a refund minus the night we stayed. Host (which is a rental management company) is refusing claiming all the issues we mention are out of their control and no one else has complained (they have 5 reviews) and directed us to AirBnB resolution centre who say they are passing to a speciality team.

What are the chances Air BnB will side with us and refund?
We did take out the Air Bnb insurance - will that cover us if not?

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Iamthemoom · 19/03/2025 16:58

FormerlySpeckledyHen · 19/03/2025 15:51

What was the outcome @Iamthemoom ?

Full refund minus three nights. We only stayed one so I'm not quite sure why the arbitrary additional two nights but we decided not to bother questioning it and just cut our losses!

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FormerlySpeckledyHen · 19/03/2025 15:51

What was the outcome @Iamthemoom ?

Explainthe · 12/03/2025 10:30

Blue444 · 12/03/2025 09:17

Op. I had an issue with a place not being as described. Out of 54 photos one showed in a corner if you blew it up that it was adjacent to a cemetery. Didn't enter or stay, contacted hostess immediately refused refund, Airbnb agreed with me on complaint but she still refused. Sent sarky email saying there were no ghosts- she had no idea what year I had.

SOLUTION Luckily I paid PayPal using Amex, they agreed with me and did charge back. Full refund, ( I would have been happy with 50% from host)

My BNB is next to a graveyard, I do say it's next to a church, never occured to me to describe the actual graveyard, I guess people draw their own conclusions though.

Swiftie1878 · 12/03/2025 09:27

I’m confused. You’re there for work? But you have DD with you?
You paid less than £90 a night for a flat, and are surprised it’s nasty?

Why isn’t your company paying for proper accommodation for you if you are working?

Blue444 · 12/03/2025 09:17

Op. I had an issue with a place not being as described. Out of 54 photos one showed in a corner if you blew it up that it was adjacent to a cemetery. Didn't enter or stay, contacted hostess immediately refused refund, Airbnb agreed with me on complaint but she still refused. Sent sarky email saying there were no ghosts- she had no idea what year I had.

SOLUTION Luckily I paid PayPal using Amex, they agreed with me and did charge back. Full refund, ( I would have been happy with 50% from host)

greengreyblue · 12/03/2025 06:35

Did you get a refund op?

SporadicMincePieMuncher · 06/03/2025 18:18

samarrange · 06/03/2025 17:58

Maybe I'm missing something very simple (I only used Airbnb once or twice, around 10 years ago, and decided it wasn't for me), but to all the people saying not to book somewhere with less than 100 reviews: What would happen if everyone reasoned like that? How would a property ever get started?

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Well, quite. I have just looked back at my history and only one of mine has over 100 reviews, and they have all been lovely stays as described.

You should also be able to trust the listing. If it's not as described, that's what the company running the website is there for.

SporadicMincePieMuncher · 06/03/2025 18:16

Naunet · 06/03/2025 15:55

Wouldn't matter if it was £5 a night in Knightsbridge, the door still needs to lock properly.

THIS.

This alone should qualify you for the refund.

Good luck - Air B&B tend to side on the side of the visitors, especially as you have submitted evidence.

samarrange · 06/03/2025 17:58

Maybe I'm missing something very simple (I only used Airbnb once or twice, around 10 years ago, and decided it wasn't for me), but to all the people saying not to book somewhere with less than 100 reviews: What would happen if everyone reasoned like that? How would a property ever get started?

Mirabai · 06/03/2025 17:29

Caspianberg · 06/03/2025 17:05

@Mirabai - I’m not in the uk. Hence why I was checking, if this was a uk regulation.

I have everything fire checked even though it’s not a regulation where I live. It’s all connected to local fire brigade also

New fire laws for short term rentals have come in across Europe around the same time all aimed at the Airbnb effect. It’s not specific to the U.K.

someonethatyoulovetoomuch · 06/03/2025 17:22

We had similar once, arrived to a “lovely” flat with a broken lock, broken sofa, washing machine full of stinking rancid black water, stains in the toilet and mould round the shower, paper thin mattresses with MDF underneath them, no curtains, it was disgusting. We arrived late so stayed one night and then moved to a premier inn first thing in the morning, went through air bnb dispute and were given a full refund. I don’t care how cheap the place is, it needs to be fit for human habitation! I wouldn’t touch air bnb again for love nor money.

AngelicKaty · 06/03/2025 17:21

@Iamthemoom The Consumer Rights Act 2015 would apply to your contract: "If the accommodation is not as described, or not fit for purpose, the provider may be in breach of consumer law". It's possible, from what you've posted, that the accommodation may not be as described, but it's definitely not fit for purpose if it's insecure because the door doesn't lock properly, and I would stress this point, amongst others, with AirBnB. Good luck!

Caspianberg · 06/03/2025 17:05

@Mirabai - I’m not in the uk. Hence why I was checking, if this was a uk regulation.

I have everything fire checked even though it’s not a regulation where I live. It’s all connected to local fire brigade also

Mirabai · 06/03/2025 17:03

@Caspianberg You might want to check on the new laws and see if you’re compliant. There are a lot of old properties that are likely non compliant so you might like to get the fire brigade to assess for advice.

AccidentalTourism · 06/03/2025 17:01

We had this, contacted Air BnB and they gave us a full refund and made sure we got another place safely.

Renamed · 06/03/2025 16:59

newkettleandtoaster · 06/03/2025 15:38

It's London.

I don't think you can really complain that the flat was on a busy roundabout, there was noise outside, or the neighbours were noisy.

That's just life, and it always amazes me when people think they are entitled to a refund for things like this.

Also, £2k for 22 nights in London. £90 per night. It also amazes me when people pay for something cheap yet expect perfection and complain about it.

I don’t really get this. Something which is cheap and unusable is still unusable, not fit for purpose.
I mean if you bought a jumper marked down to £5 and it had a hole in the front, you would still complain and expect a refund.

Movinghouseatlast · 06/03/2025 16:57

Caspianberg · 06/03/2025 16:51

@Movinghouseatlast
because I correctly assumed it was a British law rather than air b and b. I have a rental. It’s not in uk, and I haven’t ever seen any requirements on air b and b for certain types of locks or fire doors. Hence why I asked.

My own rental is part of my house. We don’t have fire doors etc. but they are thick solid oak so would withstand fire enough for requirements mentioned above. The front door has key only. But every room
had balcony or patio doors with require no locks to open from inside so that would also comply. But like I said, it’s not law here. It’s also not an air b and b regulation. So it must have been a country requirement, hence the question

It's UK law. Air BnB don't enforce laws or make them. They are just a marketing platform. What they did do was email all hosts in the UK to inform them of the law. It's up to the owner, not Air BnB, to make sure the property complies. Just as someone advertising a property on Air BnB in Greece has to have a licence number for example. Its Greek law not Air BnB law. Air BnB don't make laws, they sell short term rentals.

Mirabai · 06/03/2025 16:52

Iamthemoom · 06/03/2025 15:38

@Bunny44 IT certainly wasn't the cheapest flat in the area and it presented as one of the best. It is a LONG way out. We searched for a nicer area where the work is but the only available flats were in this adjacent not so nice area. We did research the area showing on the listing but they only gave the actual address after we paid so it was impossible to know how bad it would be. One minute walk either side is great.

Thank you for being helpful and hopefully the photos will do it but you can't photograph a smell so impossible to get across how bad it was!

Right but as soon as you get the address you can check it and if you find it’s on a roundabout you can ask for a refund immediately.

I’ve cancelled an Airbnb booking that looked like it was on a side road but turned out to be on a main road. I did it straight after booking when the address became available.

As a host - the two things to focus on, as others have said, are the smell so bad you had to leave and the security.

I don’t know how you will fare with customer service as it’s not clear how this would be covered by the Airbnb AirCover.

If they fail to help, your last resort will be a chargeback on your payment card.

Caspianberg · 06/03/2025 16:51

@Movinghouseatlast
because I correctly assumed it was a British law rather than air b and b. I have a rental. It’s not in uk, and I haven’t ever seen any requirements on air b and b for certain types of locks or fire doors. Hence why I asked.

My own rental is part of my house. We don’t have fire doors etc. but they are thick solid oak so would withstand fire enough for requirements mentioned above. The front door has key only. But every room
had balcony or patio doors with require no locks to open from inside so that would also comply. But like I said, it’s not law here. It’s also not an air b and b regulation. So it must have been a country requirement, hence the question

Movinghouseatlast · 06/03/2025 16:46

Caspianberg · 06/03/2025 16:02

How exactly did the lock not work? Was it with a key or code?

I don’t think you have to have fire doors etc by law on air b and b? And I don’t think there’s any rules about how a door locks. I assume key or card or code is fine as long as it actually locks safely.
Unless that’s a British law on short stays in general

Yes, you absolutely do need a keyless exit, depending on layout fire doors and you need interlinked smoke alarms. It is UK law and all holiday let owners should be aware of this and should action it.

I really don't understand why you would make this comment when you have no knowledge of legislation. You are simply making it up.

PsychoHotSauce · 06/03/2025 16:40

Where you may struggle is you should give the host chance to fix things like a nasty stench or broken lock.. and you haven't

To be fair the host has already inadvertently admitted they wouldn't have fixed the issues, calling them all 'outside of their control' so I don't think that's too much of a problem.

As for people saying OP isn't entitled to a refund - the flat can now be relet so what, the host just x2 the money? Amazing gig if so. Rent out a flat on a long stay, make sure the flat is uninhabitable, guest leaves, keep all the money, rinse and repeat. As if.

Bunny44 · 06/03/2025 16:32

Pasithean · 06/03/2025 16:19

Moral of the story is don’t use air B &B.

I think that's unfair as a host and guest. My house is lovely and I've stayed in lots of nice places. But look for somewhere with more than 10 reviews which are all positive.

Bunny44 · 06/03/2025 16:31

Iamthemoom · 06/03/2025 15:45

@Bunny44 Thank you. No not damp, very hard to pin down but a really rotten stench plus the air fresheners which were everywhere implying they knew it was uninhabitable with that smell.

Everyone saying it's our fault as it was cheap etc - it was a comparable price to other flats in the area and is way out of central London. We also got a long stay discount. And yes we realise exactly how stupid we are to get something without 100s of reviews (which none of the flats round here had), but we had to book something quickly in an area with very few Air Bnbs!

Well mine doesn't have 100s of reviews but people still book it. Few have that many reviews. But I do have 20+ and I'm a super host. I think far out and long term discount it sounds normal pricing.

greengreyblue · 06/03/2025 16:25

Air BnB will refund I am sure. I had an incident last year where the place was having undeclared building works and scaffolding all over it with workers there daily. I complained to host who said sorry but then tried to deny any inconvenience. We got 40% back from Air bnb after we got back but we did stay for the duration. Air BnB told me if we had left immediately we would have been re housed or refunded in full. Good luck.

Isobel201 · 06/03/2025 16:22

In future, I'd check on google street view of the area before you book. I always check the area where properties actually are on.

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