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Daughter resists going into school each morning. AIBU to make her go in?

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Newbie887 · 06/03/2025 12:57

Daughter is 7, in Y2 of a very small infant school. Class size of 12, from what I can tell the school is very supportive, encouraging and like a big family.

She started off in Reception being one of the most confident children in her class. She is a Sept baby, so maybe it was just that…but she loved all the little performances / songs / read outs her class did in assemblies (parents go in to watch assemblies every few weeks) and her reception parents eves always talked about how she had strong friendships and was confident in class.

Since Y1, things have taken a turn. She started saying she didn’t want to go into school, she has been getting less and less confident about doing the performances. Today, she could barely say one line out loud in the assembly when in reception she was the one leading all the other children in the songs etc. Now she says she’s being left out by the other girls and doesn’t know who to play with. I am so sad looking at how her confidence has dipped. She is now saying every day that she doesn’t want to go to school, she wants to be at home with me and be homeschooled.

Have others found this with their girls? I can’t work out a reason for it and am wondering if it is normal as they age? I didn’t like school myself from around this age. In hindsight, my issue was that I am neurodiverse, however I can’t see that in her. I’m trying not to project and to stay positive about school, while still listening to her concerns. But I don’t know if it is reasonable for me to make her go to school every day when she is not happy.

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TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 06/03/2025 18:28

Your DD was me, sixty years ago.

I was diagnosed with autism a couple of years ago. Three of my four children are autistic.

Being bullied by exclusion is dreadful. It's so disheartening and distressing.

Sorry, I haven't got any advice, just sympathy - for you and for your lovely daughter.

MrsEmmelinePankhurst · 06/03/2025 18:18

Very gently OP - if you are ND it is highly likely that your daughter is too.

Mynewnameis · 06/03/2025 18:16

No-one would have known my dd was neurodiverse at that age. It took myself a while to realise. I wouldn't rule it out with her brothers being assessed.

saltandvineger · 06/03/2025 18:10

Yes, make her go in. She needs to learn that life isn't always a bed of roses. Sometimes people are mean. It's not nice but you can't shield her from absolutely everything or she'll grow up with no resilience whatsoever.

I'm fed up hearing about "school refusers". Be a parent and get your kid to school.

QuickPeachPoet · 06/03/2025 18:02

Ferryweather · 06/03/2025 17:26

Your daughter has to go to school. Don’t open the door to school refusal. It’s a very hard genie to put back into the bottle

yup absolutely this.

Corilee2806 · 06/03/2025 17:56

Newbie887 · 06/03/2025 17:24

Hugs back, it’s so hard isn’t it. If I felt like she does going into work each day I would look for a new job so I feel bad pushing her in each day. At least mine will have a fresh start next yr so we can see if that helps…hope yours can too if things don’t improve. One thing we did last yr that she liked was I drew a heart on her palm and gave it a kiss in the morning before school. When she felt sad during the day she secretly looked at the heart and said it made her feel better. Maybe something to try, although doesn’t get to the root of the problem x

I know what you mean about looking for a new job - and it reminds you that there is a choice if it’s not working. My daughters school is through to yr 6, quite a big 2 form entry, but if things don’t improve I would consider other options, but want to try everything with this school first. Similar to your daughter, she was so confident and social in nursery/reception and her confidence seems to be dipping over time. School don’t seem too concerned as she’s bright and does the school work fine, but there’s something about the environment or perhaps the social side she’s not enjoying, always saying she doesn’t want to go, her tummy hurts etc. we’ve tried the heart thing at various points and agree it can be effective! But a sticking plaster like you say.

Cakeandusername · 06/03/2025 17:42

Newbie887 · 06/03/2025 17:34

I’ve been meaning to look into Brownies. Will get back on it as agree it may be a good thing. She does a couple of after school sports clubs but everyone just turns up, does the sport, then goes home. Brownies would be more sociable

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minnienono · 06/03/2025 17:39

Of course she needs to be in school daily but you need to get to the bottom of the problem

Reugny · 06/03/2025 17:37

I didn’t like school myself from around this age. In hindsight, my issue was that I am neurodiverse, however I can’t see that in her.

It's likely she is ND as well even though she isn't displaying it the same way as you.

My DP as a ND sibling who got diagnosed in childhood there as DP got diagnosed as an adult. This is because the sibling was dysregulated and disruptive from toddlerhood. I then found out I have a friend who is also ND who has managed to deal with it by appearing very organised.

Newbie887 · 06/03/2025 17:36

Cakeandusername · 06/03/2025 17:31

You say you are at home. Is there an element of her thinking she’s missing out perhaps if you are doing nice things with a younger sibling.
If you are working at home does she understand that.

I work part time, remotely from home. She def likes being home with me and the dog when she is ill. I expect she imagines homeschooling to be like cosy sick days on the sofa with me where we do a bit of reading and not much else. So yes, you’re right, the idea of that is probably part of the problem

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Jellycatspyjamas · 06/03/2025 17:36

I’d have a meeting with the teacher and head, which I see you’ve arranged. At that meeting I’d be outlining the changes you see in her and asking them what they think is causing it before exploring any thoughts of your own. In my experience if you say “I think it might be X” the school will go along with it and you’ll never get to the bottom of it.

It may be ages struggling with more formal learning, there may be something in the classroom set up that doesn’t work for her, it may be early signs of neurodivergence or something entirely different. Does your DD see a difference in herself? How does she speak about school when everything is calm - what does she like/dislike?

Im also going to disagree with the prevailing opinion here - I absolutely refuse to send my child into school anxious and upset. It’s not the first time I’ve kept one of my kids home until I’ve been able to speak to the school and put a plan in place (and been very clear about why they are off). Oddly enough, once their attendance records are being impacted, school staff tend to find time to meet and put supports in place.

Newbie887 · 06/03/2025 17:34

Cakeandusername · 06/03/2025 17:28

Does she go to Brownies? Can be good for widening friendship groups and gaining confidence through different activities. If she goes to one nr the big junior school she’ll probably know some classmates when she starts from brownies.

I’ve been meaning to look into Brownies. Will get back on it as agree it may be a good thing. She does a couple of after school sports clubs but everyone just turns up, does the sport, then goes home. Brownies would be more sociable

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Newbie887 · 06/03/2025 17:32

Dinosweetpea · 06/03/2025 15:13

The exact same thing happened to my daughter at the same age/time, she is now diagnosed ASD & ADHD. I wouldn't rule it out as you say you are ND. Talking to the teacher to see what they see would be a starting point.

This is interesting. At what age did she get diagnosed? Did you / the teachers suspect from when she started in reception that a
she has ASD and ADHD? My daughter has two brothers who are awaiting assessment and are more obviously neurodiverse. I can’t see it so much with her, there are little things (lack of resilience, emotionally sensitive, problems toileting although this is being investigated as a spinal issue currently, but so far no physical abnormalities have been found) but they could just be personality rather than anything more. She is bright and may be masking as I did, but if so she is doing an exceptional job at it as I think I would be able to spot it…I was pretty quiet and keen to please at school (had meltdowns at home, which she doesn’t have) so went completely undetected

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Cakeandusername · 06/03/2025 17:31

You say you are at home. Is there an element of her thinking she’s missing out perhaps if you are doing nice things with a younger sibling.
If you are working at home does she understand that.

Cakeandusername · 06/03/2025 17:28

Does she go to Brownies? Can be good for widening friendship groups and gaining confidence through different activities. If she goes to one nr the big junior school she’ll probably know some classmates when she starts from brownies.

Ferryweather · 06/03/2025 17:26

Your daughter has to go to school. Don’t open the door to school refusal. It’s a very hard genie to put back into the bottle

Newbie887 · 06/03/2025 17:24

Corilee2806 · 06/03/2025 16:48

No advice but sending hugs, going through something similar with my daughter in year 1 and not sure what to do. Have been in to see her teacher a few times and tried to work on some strategies but every day she says she doesn’t want to go and I basically have to push her through the door. I have tried to focus on play dates and activities outside of school but so far not making much difference, it’s so hard to know what’s best.

Hugs back, it’s so hard isn’t it. If I felt like she does going into work each day I would look for a new job so I feel bad pushing her in each day. At least mine will have a fresh start next yr so we can see if that helps…hope yours can too if things don’t improve. One thing we did last yr that she liked was I drew a heart on her palm and gave it a kiss in the morning before school. When she felt sad during the day she secretly looked at the heart and said it made her feel better. Maybe something to try, although doesn’t get to the root of the problem x

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Newbie887 · 06/03/2025 17:20

howchildrenreallylearn · 06/03/2025 16:54

Why? School in the UK is optional. It’s an opt-in service. You don’t legally have to send your child to school.

@op year one is often when cracks start to show. They go from play based lovely reception class to sitting down at a desk all day and being tested and trained up for passing tests and much more formal curriculum. For a lot of children it’s when the reality of school day-in-day-out hits.

Yes I did think that about the structure of y1 compared to reception. None of the other children in her class seem as affected by it as her though so I wonder why this is.

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Newbie887 · 06/03/2025 17:19

Bluevelvetsofa · 06/03/2025 16:55

I don’t see much benefit in trying to find a school for a term and a bit. She’ll barely have time to settle before there’s another move.

Might it help her if you were to ask the teacher if she could go in a few minutes earlier in the morning, to ‘help’ do some jobs before the others come in? I certainly think it’s worth having a conversation with the school about keeping an eye on the relationships in the class. Maybe she’d feel more confident if she had a class responsibility and that might be something that could be arranged.

I really like this idea and will put it to her teacher. Having some little jobs to do about the classroom may give her a boost and be good for her self esteem

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Newbie887 · 06/03/2025 17:17

I’m not blaming her for being subservient. We all have different personalities; her best friends are loud and forceful with their opinions and play ideas when they are over whereas she is more laid back and happy to go with whatever they want to do. I step in sometimes if it gets too much. My point was that perhaps in the playground there’s no one stepping in at that point and my daughter doesn’t have the confidence to put her foot down. But I don’t know…they are 7. This is just how 7 year olds are I think, I’m not sure it’s bullying as much as age appropriate boundary pushing / social skills practice. From what I’ve seen it happens at all play dates, between all different children. They aren’t calling her names or being unkind as such (as far as I’ve seen). So I’m not sure this is the reason for the unwillingness to go in each morning, but i have a meeting scheduled with her teacher and the head (who knows her better) next week so will see what they say.

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Bluevelvetsofa · 06/03/2025 16:55

I don’t see much benefit in trying to find a school for a term and a bit. She’ll barely have time to settle before there’s another move.

Might it help her if you were to ask the teacher if she could go in a few minutes earlier in the morning, to ‘help’ do some jobs before the others come in? I certainly think it’s worth having a conversation with the school about keeping an eye on the relationships in the class. Maybe she’d feel more confident if she had a class responsibility and that might be something that could be arranged.

howchildrenreallylearn · 06/03/2025 16:54

Iamallowedtodisagreewithyou · 06/03/2025 13:06

YANBU she needs to be in school every day unless she's ill.

Why? School in the UK is optional. It’s an opt-in service. You don’t legally have to send your child to school.

@op year one is often when cracks start to show. They go from play based lovely reception class to sitting down at a desk all day and being tested and trained up for passing tests and much more formal curriculum. For a lot of children it’s when the reality of school day-in-day-out hits.

Corilee2806 · 06/03/2025 16:48

No advice but sending hugs, going through something similar with my daughter in year 1 and not sure what to do. Have been in to see her teacher a few times and tried to work on some strategies but every day she says she doesn’t want to go and I basically have to push her through the door. I have tried to focus on play dates and activities outside of school but so far not making much difference, it’s so hard to know what’s best.

Dinosweetpea · 06/03/2025 15:13

The exact same thing happened to my daughter at the same age/time, she is now diagnosed ASD & ADHD. I wouldn't rule it out as you say you are ND. Talking to the teacher to see what they see would be a starting point.

Han86 · 06/03/2025 15:13

You need to actually talk to the staff about whether she is being left out. I do lunch duty and sometimes a teacher will check in about different friendship groups as a parent might say similar, yet I will see them with a group joining in, with them all playing together no issues. There might also be some where they are not left out but there are issues, and the group might have different children telling on others (won't let me play, shouted at me, doesn't want to play my game). Again lunch staff will generally keep an eye on these things and let the teacher know if any big concerns. We will also buddy children up if they come up to us and say they have no one to play with.

As a lot of people will say, year 1 is different to reception. In reception there is a lot more play which she might have enjoyed more, whereas year 1 they have to sit and listen and have more specific subject time and higher expectations.

Do talk to the teacher and go from there.

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