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Why does no one like me?

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Avotoast9 · 06/03/2025 03:30

Name changed for this.
Please be honest, I've got a thick skin.

I don't know where I'm going wrong. I don't have very many close friends at all. I think most people see me as a bit pretentious and possibly too intense. I don't think of my self like that at all. I've always struggled to make friends within my age group. My closest friends have always been older and I've NEVER been part of the in-group or had lots of girl friends. I can't remember ever arguing with anyone or falling out over anything specific. I guess I just fall out of touch with people. Sometimes I wonder if my defenses rub people up the wrong way. One thing I would like people to know about me (but I don't always get a chance to show) is that I am fiercely loyal. I would change my plans in a heartbeat to support a friend if ever they needed me.

So yeah, ask me anything. Why in your opinion am I rubbing people up the wrong way. I don't have a problem making friends initially but they never really go anywhere. Is that normal or should I take a long hard look at myself?

If you got this far, thanks ☺️

OP posts:
reallypromising · 06/03/2025 05:30

Why are you considered pretentious?

HelmholtzWatson · 06/03/2025 05:22

Have you read "The Power of Introverts" by Susan Cain?

I'd far rather go for a nice walk with my dogs than spend lunch nattering about nothing. On the outside I'm somewhat gregarious and outgoing, and I spend a lot of that energy at work, but in reality if I see my friends a couple of times a year, that's enough.

Scirocco · 06/03/2025 05:21

Waterweight · 06/03/2025 04:06

It'll be looks based sorry to say. There's nothing you can do about it.

That was my biggest realisation & what finally let me let go of the constant confusion-desire of making friends before all the "pretty privilege" stuff became common thing & but was relatively confident

I'm sure your a lovely person though & you don't deserve it regardless

Edited

I don't think I've ever made or ended a friendship based on looks. I would, however, end a friendship if a person shows needless cruelty towards others.

CheekyHobson · 06/03/2025 05:15

I think most people see me as a bit pretentious and possibly too intense. I don't think of my self like that at all.

What makes you think people see you this way, and if you are not really like that, why would you come across in that way?

yourmaw · 06/03/2025 05:03

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CarolinaWren · 06/03/2025 04:48

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 06/03/2025 04:13

I have a lot of good friends but I have to nurture those friendships to keep therm going & growing. There’s a lot of effort on my part to check in on their welfare. My sister expects friendships to appear but doesn’t have many friends. I’m not surprised as she rarely checks in on anyone. I stopped putting all the effort in recently to see what she’d do & I haven’t heard a peep in months! It’s so disappointing. Sometimes I’d just love a text from her sharing something mundane.

Do you ever text or call someone just to ask about them? Are you very serious generally or can you be a bit light & silly? Maybe ask what draws you to someone as a potential friend & start from there.x

I have only a few good friends, but I've found the same to be true. It takes a lot of effort to maintain friendships and the effort is not always reciprocated. I've periodically decided to make more friends and I put a lot of effort into it. Then I realize it's like having a second job and really not much fun.

Avotoast9 · 06/03/2025 04:26

@VoltaireMittyDream that's really interesting. I can relate to that a lot. I find general chit chat takes a lot of energy from me. Its not that I don't enjoy being around people but I find it exhausting until I am very comfortable with a person and can properly relax.

@Theextraordinaryisintheordinary yes. I try hard to reach out to people out of the blue. Most of the time I would say I am the initiator with conversations. I always get a reply, but then it never really goes anywhere. I speak to my closest friend every day (despite living on a different country). A couple of people who I thought were great friends have apologised to me for not keeping in touch because they are too busy. I struggle to understand that because it takes 5 mins to send a message every couple of weeks just to say hi how are you. I reached out to them for a couple of years before I gave up because it was never reciprocated. At the time this really upset me.

Also I would consider myself both serious and silly in equal measure. I'm a serious person most of the time, but don't mind being a clown and messing me about. It's all of nothing. Think heart to heart serious or bouncing off the walls 😉

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Bingbopboomboomboombopbam · 06/03/2025 04:21

@yourmaw are you high?

@Avotoast9 it could be any number of things, you didn’t really give much detail. However I do think (especially as we get older and have adult obligations) friendships require serious effort and upkeep.

It’s also tied to what you like to do. The idea of the “in-group” may sound nice but then in reality you wouldn’t been comfortable in it, for example. I love going out but the people I relate to and bond with usually don’t, so at night mostly I just go out with DP because I don’t really have a group for that.

yourmaw · 06/03/2025 04:15

Waterweight.pish. not sorry.
Could be aquarius?
Could be ,you don't "appear" needy,needing? Esp if long-term, always,ever.
Eeeeeven if u wanna be joey,chandler etc...
Possibly spectrum.??

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 06/03/2025 04:13

I have a lot of good friends but I have to nurture those friendships to keep therm going & growing. There’s a lot of effort on my part to check in on their welfare. My sister expects friendships to appear but doesn’t have many friends. I’m not surprised as she rarely checks in on anyone. I stopped putting all the effort in recently to see what she’d do & I haven’t heard a peep in months! It’s so disappointing. Sometimes I’d just love a text from her sharing something mundane.

Do you ever text or call someone just to ask about them? Are you very serious generally or can you be a bit light & silly? Maybe ask what draws you to someone as a potential friend & start from there.x

Waterweight · 06/03/2025 04:06

It'll be looks based sorry to say. There's nothing you can do about it.

That was my biggest realisation & what finally let me let go of the constant confusion-desire of making friends before all the "pretty privilege" stuff became common thing & but was relatively confident

I'm sure your a lovely person though & you don't deserve it regardless

VoltaireMittyDream · 06/03/2025 04:02

My observation is that most people who post here about not having friends turn out not to be terribly interested in other people. Which is fine! Not everyone’s a people person. But it’s not very conducive to close friendships, as people can tell when someone just wants somebody they can count on to do things with, or a listening ear, rather than actively enjoying their company and being interested in them.

This may not be the case for you at all, but it’s what I’ve noticed a lot. People who like being around other people make friends fairly easily - however awkward or intense they may be. People who find most other human beings to be abrasive or shallow or generally confusing or overwhelming struggle to make lasting friendships. Generally because they just don’t enjoy being around people very much.

If this is you, lean into it - find ways of getting your social needs met that feel good to you. That could be hobby groups, or just hanging out at home with a partner in companionable silence. Not everyone enjoys having close friends or big friendship groups, and that doesn’t make someone a bad person or unlikeable. We’re all different.

daisychain01 · 06/03/2025 03:48

I can't remember ever arguing with anyone or falling out over anything specific. I guess I just fall out of touch with people.

so, in actual fact, it isn't that people don't like you. You don't hold strong ties with people and you don't argue with people, which are both equally valid. There's no law that says you have to.

not trying to be dismissive but I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. Care less about what people think, you'll never know or control how they feel so let go of it,

crosskeysgreen · 06/03/2025 03:37

I'm the same. I suspect I'm autistic or adhd.