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To hate holiday with baby

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Greenwich869 · 05/03/2025 20:53

DH insisted it will be great. He was excited. I was the negative nelly obviously but gave in. Well, we're here. 10 hour flight was brutal. Baby is jet lagged. So are we. It's made baby clingy even though he never was clingy with me before. He won't settle for dad now. My back feels like it will snap in two from spending the last 24 hours holding baby to sleep in the airport and plane. Constantly rocking him as if he is a newborn but he's 9 kgs.

It's just parenting a million times worse.

It's day 1, we arrived this morning. DH is insisting it was the right thing to come. He is going the extra mile, trying to do lots and I am trying to put on a good face but I am absolutely miserable.

The right thing to do is snap out of it and enjoy it as there's no quick way to go home. But I hate DH right now. Hate his fucking guts. Could 100% divorce him over this. And I hate myself for giving in to his stupid idea. Hate, hate, hate myself.

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theprincessthepea · 06/03/2025 15:26

My baby is nearly 1. 3 close friends spent a lot of their maternity leave travelling with baby - I honestly don’t know how they did it and they have all said it was “amazing”.

My idea of a nightmare but we all know ourselves.

You are there now, relax. Make DH do a lot of the work whilst you take a nap or ease into it. It sounds like he is trying to make it work but from my experience, we as the mum always take on the stress of it all.

I do hope it is enjoyable overtime. I also hope it’s a lasting memory that you will have great stories from (even if they are frustrating). At least you know baby holidays arnt your thing and you can suggest somewhere closer next time.

Good luck

Bobbie12345 · 06/03/2025 15:21

ThePartingOfTheWays · 06/03/2025 07:55

Shame you had to throw in the mean spirited hard work comment to a woman who's obviously struggling, especially when you could've just made it a post with advice from experience.

Reasonable from you, thepartingoftheways.
Sorry OP. Hope your trip improves.

MuddlingThrough1724 · 06/03/2025 14:57

There's a very good reason holidays are free until they are two.......because it isn't a holiday for anyone, just the same old work, somewhere less convenient!

Greenwich869 · 06/03/2025 14:52

Lol at this @Printedword and @Chenecinquantecinq the alternative to a baby who sleeps well in a crib and in a routine is NOT a baby who is chill and can sleep anywhere. The reason we had to have a routine is because he gets so stimulated and out of whack, he would just scream and scream, take a 30-40 minute nap and be grumpy and overtired for the next 2 hours and repeat. I get that some of you have chill babies who sleep well but that's really not a direct result of your parenting.

Depending on the time of day, he can go 3 hours between feeds. The flipside is he sleeps 11 hours at night (usually) so the reason for feeding lots in the day is because he sleeps well at night. If I don't offer the breast often enough, which has happened if I had an appointment or something, he has a shit night sleep and wakes to feed

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Soonenough · 06/03/2025 14:50

Glad to hear your update and hope things are looking better today . But just to say about your remark at hating to hear him cry . Don't get overly upset about it . It is one of the few ways he can communicate and you will know the difference between his cries. Sometimes he might cry because he is pissed off , his foot itches , he can't reach something , not because he is extremely distressed. And it is OK . Attend to his needs of course but you will stress yourself out if you try to ever have him cry . PS : It does get easier. 💐

ThePartingOfTheWays · 06/03/2025 14:02

Nonrienderien · 06/03/2025 13:58

I have a relative in this position. I know for a fact she is grateful when people consider her. I will co-opt & highlight the reasons for her feelings as much as I see fit to do so.

OP is fine now & has thanked EVERYONE for their posts. I assume this includes mine 😊

That would be fine if you'd only mentioned her, instead of unconsensually deciding the pain of everyone else in that situation was yours to use as you wished.

As for OP, given that one person on this thread has asked her if she has mental health problems it rather reads like she's being polite. I hope she's enjoying her holiday now, and is simply shrugging off the nastier remarks.

Nonrienderien · 06/03/2025 13:58

I have a relative in this position. I know for a fact she is grateful when people consider her. I will co-opt & highlight the reasons for her feelings as much as I see fit to do so.

OP is fine now & has thanked EVERYONE for their posts. I assume this includes mine 😊

Cherryblossom90 · 06/03/2025 12:56

@Greenwich869 I read your op and feel real sympathy! But I'm laughing at some of the replies on here becuase I posted a similar question regarding my then baby (9months old) and travel last year on AIBU and the majority of replies were very much to just 'deal with it' and travelling with babies is 'fine' 😂im so glad your not getting roasted like I did. Or maybe et has got kinder!
And no I haven't changed my mind I'm not planning to take my 16month abroad anytime soon. Travelling with babies and toddlers has got to be the worst.
Wishing you much strength over the coming weeks and journey back!
Just to reassure you my baby did snap right back into routine when we got home so hopefully yours will too!

Printedword · 06/03/2025 12:47

Chenecinquantecinq · 06/03/2025 11:01

Depends took mine at 3 months on long haul to luxury hotels was easy. I don't think it would suit those who are regimented eg over sleep nap times. Ours slepy on sun beds in shade next to us etc I used sling etc when out. Very easy. I had friends though who used to take theirs back home for naps etc every day whereas mine just slept out wherever I was. If you are a chilled non rules parents think it works really well travelling with young babies.

This was us, much easier if a baby isn't always napping in crib routine.

As regards an earlier point OP made - my 6 month old wasn't on 2 hourly feeds. Was bf but was well past the 2 hour stage

thankheavensforcalpol · 06/03/2025 12:32

bobby81 · 06/03/2025 11:12

I know this isn’t helpful but whenever we go abroad & see people with babies we always think they must be crazy! Just holiday in the UK until the kids are a bit older. I would never want to take a baby abroad but I do understand that your situation is different if you’re visiting family. I guess you just need to make the most of it now. Hope things get a bit easier x

It’s parenting but warmer. I’ve just come back from 25 degrees sunshine with my 3 and 1 yo. A week of not wrapping up, no rain, playing in the pool and at least 3 ice creams a day! Bliss.

ItTook9Years · 06/03/2025 12:30

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 06/03/2025 12:25

I was talking holidays in this case. If you are from the UK your wee ones will certainly not be used to 30 plus heat. Visiting relatives I can understand.
I stand by my selfish statement!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3rdwx4yx12o.amp

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 06/03/2025 12:25

ItTook9Years · 06/03/2025 11:39

You know there are babies and toddlers living in those hot countries, don’t you? And that not everyone lives close to their family members?

Mine was good as gold on every flight. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I was talking holidays in this case. If you are from the UK your wee ones will certainly not be used to 30 plus heat. Visiting relatives I can understand.
I stand by my selfish statement!

TheBirdintheCave · 06/03/2025 12:22

bobby81 · 06/03/2025 11:12

I know this isn’t helpful but whenever we go abroad & see people with babies we always think they must be crazy! Just holiday in the UK until the kids are a bit older. I would never want to take a baby abroad but I do understand that your situation is different if you’re visiting family. I guess you just need to make the most of it now. Hope things get a bit easier x

I used to think the same thing then I had my own kids and realised that I hadn't changed as a person, I was still someone who likes travelling and there was no need to give that up ☺️

I love travelling with my children (four and 10 months currently) and we have two abroad holidays booked this year.

Vergus · 06/03/2025 12:20

Just read your update - that's positive. It will be ok!

DuchessOfNarcissex · 06/03/2025 12:17

@Vergus , you mean step up and do his share. Being a parent isn't restricted to women.

Vergus · 06/03/2025 12:03

Oh and give baby to dad when you can too. He can help.

ThePartingOfTheWays · 06/03/2025 12:02

Nonrienderien · 06/03/2025 11:10

Sometimes all it takes is to count our blessings & be grateful to be given the gift of a child. My 'opinion' is not berating,it's merely a different view. The joys far outweigh the struggles. Nobody ever said parents like everyone else on the planet never have days when they are exhausted & could run a mile. Ask them if they would go back in time & not have babies. The vast majority wouldn't dream of saying yes. Interesting that this vast majority inevitably go on to have more than one. Mine is an opinion which although different from the naysayers it's still valid.

Quite what possessed you to decide the pain and struggles of those who can't have children are yours to co-opt for poor quality internet arguments, one dreads to think. I'm glad OP hasn't acknowledged any of this incoherent nonsense.

Vergus · 06/03/2025 12:01

We've all been there! Apart from @candledrip who is just trolling for kicks. And yes, sleep deprivation can turn you into a shivering wreck! I took my son to France when he was 3 months old. I will admit, the first 48 hours was quite hard because we were settling in but after that we found the semblance of a routine and the holiday was over before we knew it. Babies don't really need holidays IMHO - they're happier having cuddles and milk and Cbeebies on the sofa at home. Gentle, routine days and the familiarity of their own things. Men don't really get it, they are a bit better when the babies turn into 10 yrs and upwards, as they can then do more active, boisterous things with them. But yes, the early baby years you just keep things very very simple indeed.

You're there now - we all live and learn! AS a mum I had to learn to set and enforce my boundaries. It's all too easy to go along with what others want and suggest, but it's very important you and baby do what's comfortable and safe and easy for you as mum, at least until he gets a bit older. But you're not alone, most mums will agree that holidaying with babies can be hard work. Just enjoy what you can when you can and it will be ok.

ItTook9Years · 06/03/2025 11:44

80smonster · 06/03/2025 11:40

Don’t get me wrong, many memories are made all the same, but ‘holiday’? Nope, wouldn’t attribute that word to any element of parenting, it’s why there is an ‘ing at the end, it’s a doing word. Being on holiday or in someone else’s home abroad means you can’t be on autopilot, which is incredibly tiring for most, but probably quite overwhelming for parents of a young baby.

My parents were absolutely accepting of whatever DD needed when we visited them. Mum was working during the day and treasured her time with DD when she got home. (DD is a dyed in the wool night owl so was asleep much of the day anyway.)

it was a holiday for me in that in that there were other pairs of hands to help with DD for 3 weeks which there weren’t at home, and gave my parents a decent chunk of time with DD rather than snatched long weekends and Skype calls.

80smonster · 06/03/2025 11:40

Nonrienderien · 06/03/2025 10:46

Each to their own opinion of parenting children on holiday. I treasure every memory of the fun DH & I had on every holiday here & abroad. As they got older we would sit at dinner & laugh until it hurt. I would do it all.again in a heartbeat. We have the pleasure of young Grandchildren now & it's just as delightful. There are stressfull times especially when they are sick but for me being without children in my life would feel totally empty.

Don’t get me wrong, many memories are made all the same, but ‘holiday’? Nope, wouldn’t attribute that word to any element of parenting, it’s why there is an ‘ing at the end, it’s a doing word. Being on holiday or in someone else’s home abroad means you can’t be on autopilot, which is incredibly tiring for most, but probably quite overwhelming for parents of a young baby.

ItTook9Years · 06/03/2025 11:39

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 06/03/2025 11:00

Me too, I've never understood parents who take babies and wee toddlers to a hot country.so selfish, and also expecting them to behave on a flight. As long as their wants are met though, eh

You know there are babies and toddlers living in those hot countries, don’t you? And that not everyone lives close to their family members?

Mine was good as gold on every flight. 🤷🏻‍♀️

PotolKimchi · 06/03/2025 11:22

My family lives at the other end of the world from where we do so we have travelled back there many times. My babies have always thrived on routine too so after the first day or so of jet lag, I've always had them on a schedule/routine on holiday and organised all the social stuff around that. It isn't the exact same routine as we would have at home, but it's a routine and babies do adjust quickly- and we have kept the cadence of the day, the bedtime routine etc the same (even if the actual bedtime is later). (They are very much not babies any more but we have travelled throughout their childhood).

PuttingOnTheKitsch · 06/03/2025 11:21

Babyboomtastic · 05/03/2025 23:18

If it really had to be done to visit family then they are right about the 6m Vs 12m IMO, sorry.
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I found holidaying with a fine baby (6w) easy, a 10m old challenging but fun, a 2yo horrendous and then it started to get better after 3ish.

I wouldn't have wanted to do a long haul flight but it I had, I'd choose a non mobile baby any day! Once they can move they don't sit still, will want to explore the aisles for the entire flight, climb over the seats, sleep less, are less tolerant of noise/stuff going on round them on top of the issues you have now.

It's hard but I think you've made the right choice. Hopefully it'll feel better in a day or two and the sunshine will help.

Indeed. We went abroad with our youngest at three months old to visit family and it was a doddle. When the same child was a toddler, not so much of a doddle, although it was better once we arrived. But those years are long past now and I'm happy all our family were able to see our children grow up.

bobby81 · 06/03/2025 11:12

I know this isn’t helpful but whenever we go abroad & see people with babies we always think they must be crazy! Just holiday in the UK until the kids are a bit older. I would never want to take a baby abroad but I do understand that your situation is different if you’re visiting family. I guess you just need to make the most of it now. Hope things get a bit easier x

Nonrienderien · 06/03/2025 11:12

Greenwich869 · 06/03/2025 11:10

Thanks everyone. I feel better today. DH and I did end up having a row last night but it's all fine now. DH is a very involved, loving and hands on dad but he is a forever optimist (which is often a wonderful trait).

We are visiting both sides of the family, not just his, but mine were willing to travel to us (and have done so already several times). My judgment is a bit clouded by the fact that his family, while perfectly nice, aren't very warm or helpful or even all that interested in us/baby. So I feel like I am putting my baby through quite a lot for the sake of a bunch of people who don't give much of a shit anyway.

To the person asking if I have mental health issues...well, no, but dealing with an inconsolable baby on a 10 hour flight did break me. Baby woke every 30-60 minutes last night but by some miracle we managed to sleep a bit in between.

I hate hate hate hearing him cry. And he loves routine, he thrives on it. He was confused, overstimulated and overtired and all I could think is what a terrible mother I am.

Anyways, I do feel better and like a rational human again, thank you for all your replies. I will make the best of it and I'm sure we will make some lovely memories.

Wonderful to hear. 🥰

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