To hate holiday with baby

As a mom of three, I took my first flight with my oldest when she was 5 days old. I have taken my kids all over the world, sometimes flew international flights with all three without their dad or the nanny. Sometimes it was tough but it never deterred me to do it again. Memories are everlasting. Even when the idiot at the Panama international airport thought it would be ideal to put my three kids in different seats throughout the plane. Yes I ripped him a new one but he still didn’t change the seats. The people moved around so the kids could sit with me - like who wants to babysit someone else’s kids on a plane. She is overreacting. The kid is too young to be jet lagged. Once he gets a good sleep, he will be fine.

First question is why you’re asking a generally uninformed general public to validate your feelings

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Main premise of MN, seems to be working surprisingly well for them .....

First question is why you’re asking a generally uninformed general public to validate your feelings? More than half of the people have no clue and comment based on personal biases and beliefs that are erroneous but they’ll never do research or seek out the truth. Second thing is, based on what experts say, babies strongly sense the emotions and feelings of their parents, particularly their mothers. Was the change in the child’s behavior due to being on a long plane ride, or was it the mother’s resentment and anger, just knowing that the trip was not going to turn out right. Maybe it was nothing to do with being on a plane, but it was the mother herself that caused things to fall apart. Something she of course blames on someone else now. Take responsibility for yourself! YOU agreed to go, YOU went into it with a bad attitude, and YOU passed your negativity onto the baby…. who just reacted to YOU.

I lived in the UK and my family was in the US. I traveled with my son from six months old. He was great because I wasn't stressed. I didn't project it onto him. He became an absolute pro at flying. Also, the flight attendants were great back then. Always willing to help. It was great he was so amazing but still. How you feel will project onto your child and he will react accordingly. Relax, mama.

Are you serious? You are clearly one of the many people who whimper ‘mental health’ when anything goes wrong. Get real! We are not all nutcases. If you can’t be more helpful than that, I suggest you be quiet, or better still, go away!

Yes, you are. I've asked you nicely, please go away

i have 3 children and have travelled a lot (including Australia with a 2 year old).

My advice is to (in the nicest way possible) just chill the fuck out and go with the flow. Accept that baby might be unsettled and then breathe. You don’t hate your partners guts - it’s fab that he wanted to take a holiday with you both and had the get up and go to organise it.

It sounds like you arrived with predetermined negative thoughts that you’ve now let affect your holiday. I think you really need to adjust your mindset otherwise you’re going to have a miserable week.

Go for a wonder in the pram. Go in the pool even if it’s nap time. Hand the baby to dad and go for a massage. Let go of the idea of nap times and feed times. Baby will get on board with the idea soon - you’re all just knackered.

Horrid

I didn't ask a question, and your suggestion didn't make sense. Please go away.

You ask I question, I suggest politely that if you have booked seats you sit together in a way that works. You attack me without reason

Long haul with a baby is very brave. I would only do it to visit family, not just to have a holiday. I haven't left the UK in 2 years because flying with kids is so annoying.

Good luck, though! I'm sure it will get better after you've rested.

You’re right, you did make a “nasty little reply” not to mention, inaccurate 🙄

Reported under the guidelines of personal attacks.

The aggressive posts are coming from you. I can't imagine how anyone can be so insensitive about children. This is why when I read posts such as 'many women would not have them if they could turn back time' I find it astonishing.
It may be an opinion but it's a shocking one given the amount of children reffered to social services through lack of care.

I'm torn between astonished and amused at your self-proclaimed 'sensitivity' when your posts are endlessly insensitive and passive aggressive. You should be ashamed of your posts but I doubt you have the self-awareness to.

Editing to add: even in my own circle of friends more of us have one child than two or more. Not everyone is the same as you. Mind blowing I know.

Of course there are days when you could run a mile. Nobody suggested otherwise. My point is if it's as difficult as some people make out why do most couples go on to have more than one child,often three or four. It's because having a family & the rewards it brings far outweigh the tough days. There is no better feeling than the pride you feel when watching your children in a school play,winning prizes for sporting achievements etc etc not forgetting the cuddles & the pleasure when they take their first steps & hearing their first words.

I don't need to vent at you My annoyance was for the OP. You read my post and totally misunderstood it. Don't shame women for complaining that motherhood is hard at times. It IS hard especially when you're just getting used to it. Don't tell her how lucky she is when she was venting about a day when she was having a shit time. I wish people were more honest about how tough parenting can be and new parents would feel much less judged and much less alone.

Enjoy your holiday OP as best you can! The first one with a baby can be a shock. Like I said I remember the first one well (I felt like I needed a holiday to recover from the shock of it not being a restful holiday!) but our now teen is a great travel companion. We found 2-5 the most challenging years. We invest so much hope in holidays so low expectations can help.

@Nonrienderien

actually loads of women WOULDNT have kids if they could turn back time, if they knew how hard it was gonna be they wouldn’t bother

10 hour flight with a baby??? I took our son at age 4 on his first flight to Malaysia that was bad enough, your very brave

@FluffyBenji23 You absolutely can. I don't get this blanket statement of holidays with kids not being a holiday 🤷🏻‍♀️

If I'm staying somewhere that isn't my house and I get to eat and drink yummy things, see cultural sights and not be at work then fab I'm on holiday!

I don't feel burdened by the fact that I still have to change my daughter's nappy or help my son put on his shoes or put them both to bed. I'm not looking for a break from parenting when I go on holiday I'm going for a break from the tedious parts of my life: work, cleaning, meal planning, bills.

There is no such thing as a 'holiday' with a baby. All the same everyday stuff to do but in unfamiliar surroundings and with none of your baby stuff or at home support. I convinced my daughter of this (after disastrous 'holidays' with her as a toddler) and they are only this year going away with my grandson. And he's four!
Ps they have been away but I've cared for him - relaxation for them and granny bonding for me.

So you triple hate him made me laugh did that post, I know what it's like to do a 10hr flight with a toddler not easy not fun and definitely not romantic however all the 1st holidays in the world i would hate myself more for agreeing such a devastating distance yoi could've tried a more manageable holiday but you've made it your there and you'll be seriously jet lagged and hormonal and whingy if you can go run a bath take a bottle of wine in and shut the door tell the hubby you need the time to just relax to go put baby to bed and enjoy your me time put some music on low on your phone away from the bath try Enya part 1 and let yourself go to another place for however long you decide to sit in that lovely hot bath am sure after a good sleep you'll start to feel much better and can then plan the journey home knowing what's ahead reqll6 hope this helps xx

I don't think it is