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Hiring manager ignored me after referral

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theworriermum · 05/03/2025 20:52

Has this ever happened to anyone or any advice appreciated.

An ex colleague who I didn't know personally but worked with, contacted me on LinkedIn to say the company they now work for have a role which they thought for me for straight away.

Indeed it's exactly my role and region, so made perfect sense to me.

I explained I was away for 2 weeks but keen to learn more and asked what was required.

A personal email address for an intro to the hiring manager (VP based in US) and my CV, then this person could officially refer me in.

I explained my CV wouldn't be refreshed until I was home but sent my email for the intro. It went quiet. Just under a week later he said thanks, he would let me apply directly and would make the intro. Nothing. I left it a few days and said 'look forward to the intro'.

Eventually it came and was a glowing referral. I was touched by the kind words (Chatgpt probably helped). I emailed back to the hiring manager and explained I was away but would be back on x date the very happy to meet in the meantime and be flexible around her schedule.

That was a week ago and she ignored me. As I have been away I didn't follow up but plan to do so tomorrow.

I just feel if she had a candidate pipeline problem she wouldn't have ignored me. I also find it rude she hasn't event responded. Firstly someone in her reporting line emailed the into and then I emailed back, she missed both?!

Any thoughts?

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theworriermum · 06/03/2025 10:44

@KrisAkabusi I told the person who referred me that I would apply and send my CV. I've not said anything to the hiring manager but as I've said multiple times above, I will apply today.

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KrisAkabusi · 06/03/2025 10:10

theworriermum · 06/03/2025 09:18

@GravyBoatWars thanks for your input and I agree. If you don't need a CV to have a conversation, do you find it strange she hasn't replied for an entire week to just set up a time to chat? Or even acknowledge my email.

No! You have said that you will do something that you haven't yet done, and also that you are on holiday. I don't understand why, with 99% of responses all telling you the same thing, that you don't get this.

Ella31 · 06/03/2025 09:48

theworriermum · 06/03/2025 09:09

@Doggymummar finally, someone who understands. Do you therefore think this is somewhat 'off'?

I probably should have added that I am also not junior.

Kindly, you are coming across as very pushy. You aren't the only candidate I'm sure and I really wouldn't follow the other posters advice who said you should contact them again. It's quite common for people to recommend people they know, however it's never a guarantee. You being senior has no relevance, they'll have to treat everyone under the same process.

You seem to be arguing with everyone's comments here bar people who agree with you. Just to add as well, she might be waiting for all cv's to get in so that they can set up "intros" not having conservatories here and there all week. A week is no time.

GravyBoatWars · 06/03/2025 09:32

theworriermum · 06/03/2025 09:18

@GravyBoatWars thanks for your input and I agree. If you don't need a CV to have a conversation, do you find it strange she hasn't replied for an entire week to just set up a time to chat? Or even acknowledge my email.

I find it slightly below optimal communication and utterly pointless to try to read into.

You established that you were on vacation and would send a CV when you get back. As I said above, maybe she's just in zero rush (common for hiring at higher levels) and saw no need to be engaging in professional talk with you during you holiday, maybe this particular company has a more formal hiring process than you're used to (I don't require a CV to talk to candidates but that doesn't make this The One Right Way), maybe she's just a slack communicator, maybe she's not interested... who knows. It's a complete waste of time to try to overanalyze this with so little information. Updating your CV should be quick and it's always useful to have a new one anyways, so take this energy you're spending and do that. Then you can see how she responds and try to draw some impressions that are actually useful.

BobbyBiscuits · 06/03/2025 09:24

I don't think it would be fair for this hiring manager to start having introductory conversations with people who haven't even officially applied. For all you know the person who referred you might be little more than a tea boy in the eyes of that manager?
I'm not saying that's the case but you shouldn't be expecting special treatment as it's unfair on the other candidates.

theworriermum · 06/03/2025 09:18

@GravyBoatWars thanks for your input and I agree. If you don't need a CV to have a conversation, do you find it strange she hasn't replied for an entire week to just set up a time to chat? Or even acknowledge my email.

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theworriermum · 06/03/2025 09:16

@Hoppinggreen I don't think there is hope because if there was, she would have replied. I will of course formally apply and keep everyone updated. Will happily eat my hat but this all seems very odd to me.

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GravyBoatWars · 06/03/2025 09:15

If you are now back I would send a one liner saying so and asking for next steps.

If you're interested in the position please do not do this without attaching the CV that was already requested and which you said you would send when you return.

I don't care how senior the position is I'm hiring for, emailing and asking for next steps without completing such a simple first one would reflect poorly. I'm happy to talk to candidates before receiving a formal CV or their submitting any of recruiting's paperwork, but if they've said they'll send me a CV on a certain timeline then they need to do that without an additional prompt.

Hoppinggreen · 06/03/2025 09:15

theworriermum · 06/03/2025 09:11

@Hoppinggreen the contact has just been promoted to manager level. They are more junior than me for sure but looks like things are progressing nicely for them.

Ok but that does not mean that their "interference" in the normal hiring process will be appreciated. The company or hiring manager may prefer people to stay in their lane.
Of course their opinion may hold a lot of weight but my point was that you can't assume that.
Hopefully it IS the case and it gives your application a boost

theworriermum · 06/03/2025 09:11

@Hoppinggreen the contact has just been promoted to manager level. They are more junior than me for sure but looks like things are progressing nicely for them.

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theworriermum · 06/03/2025 09:09

@Doggymummar finally, someone who understands. Do you therefore think this is somewhat 'off'?

I probably should have added that I am also not junior.

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Hoppinggreen · 06/03/2025 09:08

You seem to think that you are guaranteed an interview and/or a quick response because you have a contact there but thats not necessarily the case.
Your application (or lack of) will probably be treated like everyone elses and the referral will just help if everything else stacks up too or its between you and one other for example. It won't mean you get special treatment.
For all you know the hiring manager doesn't even like or respect your contact.
I understand why you haven't been able to send your CV but if there are already lots of good candidates you may not even be in the running compared to people who HAVE properly applied.
It also could just be that the process is slower than you might have liked and you will be contacted when they are ready.

Doggymummar · 06/03/2025 09:04

theworriermum · 06/03/2025 07:52

I take the feedback but curious to know how else you would reply?

The person I know sent a glowing referral email and I'm not in a position to apply as I've been in the same job 5+ years and haven't job hunted, I wasn't looking. Re-working my CV on my phone would be awful formatting.

Having hired people in the past, when I've been recommended someone, I've always met them, no need for CV for an intro call. LinkedIn and a referral has been enough for me, clearly shows a snapshot of the job and company they're in/have been in.

That aside, how would you handle the fact this happened just as I arrived on holiday and would have happily taken the call whilst away and wanted to be clear on timezones.

I agree with you. We get to a certain point in our careers where jobs come from recommendations and word of mouth. I haven't formally applied for a job in a decade, I am always contacted. Due diligence and references have usually been done before I am asked to apply. Sounds like you are the same. If you are now back I would send a one liner saying so and asking for next steps.

Katiesaidthat · 06/03/2025 09:02

OP even though you are on holiday in another country. If this is a great opportunity, you get yourself to the nearest pc or laptop and update your cv there. I am sure the country you are in has computers and internet connections, unless you are in the middle of the Sahara dessert in a tent...It depends how much you want this. I would find all this being away irritating and a feeble excuse...

theworriermum · 06/03/2025 09:02

@KrisAkabusi not to be whisked through the process but an acknowledgment of the fact I've emailed her and offered to meet even when on holiday.

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GravyBoatWars · 06/03/2025 09:01

Every company has different processes and norms for hiring and different positions will have different timelines. Getting frustrated that they're not doing it the way you've done it elsewhere in the past is pointless.

They asked you for a CV to start the process and said you would need to apply directly, so take care of those pending tasks on your end if you think you're interested. Otherwise just let the opportunity go, but don't waste a bunch of energy mind-reading and critiquing this hiring manager you've never spoken with. Maybe the hiring manager is just on a relaxed timeline and is happy to wait until you're back from holiday and have had time to send a proper CV and application before getting on a call. Maybe they're not actually that interested in you because they have someone else in mind. Maybe they're just not a terribly proactive communicator. Maybe they're an unreasonable manager who thinks going away on holiday without your laptop makes you a poor prospect. The best way to find out is to send in your CV and the formal application as requested and see what they do.

KrisAkabusi · 06/03/2025 08:57

Her org can't be more than 50 people, she will know the guy who recommended me.

You seem to be putting a huge amount of weight on this recommendation. But if I was hiring, I'd still wait until I had all the information - your CV - before doing anything. You seem to expect that the recommendation should be enough to whisk you through the system, but I don't think it works like that in most fields.

theworriermum · 06/03/2025 08:51

My partner works in the same industry and I just reminded him last night that I didn't get a response and he said it's really weird.

Also said not sending a CV isn't an issue. Did say I could follow up with an application and CV but finds it odd in a company of less than 2,500 this would be an issue.

Her org can't be more than 50 people, she will know the guy who recommended me.

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SleepingisanArt · 06/03/2025 08:49

OP how you do things is obviously not how this USA based company do things. Stop trying to convince us they are wrong and you are right. Take the advice suggested and then get on with your life whilst their recruitment process happens.

theworriermum · 06/03/2025 08:37

We must work in different sectors because someone referred someone to me via email and left us connect. I met her for an intro call as I had a position to fill and she had a profile that fitted the bill, mainly due to the company she worked for and the tenure and progression she had there. No CV, she added me on LI and I accepted. Maybe I've blown it already then if I've come across as non urgent, with excuses, convoluted email and too strong via LinkedIn add.

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Trickabrick · 06/03/2025 08:34

Honestly OP, you’re taking this really personally and seem to be expecting preferential treatment just because you have an ex-colleague common. I’d never add a hiring manager on LinkedIn before I’d got the job.

theworriermum · 06/03/2025 08:17

Added her this time last week

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theworriermum · 06/03/2025 08:17

I also added her on LinkedIn and it's still pending. I find it hard to believe she can't even accept an invite from a prospective candidate who someone in her team has taken the time to refer. I think it's just not a go, with or without the CV.

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Trickabrick · 06/03/2025 08:07

SoftPillow · 06/03/2025 08:01

If you haven’t sent a CV I’m not sure you’ve done more than be connected with the hiring manager. We wouldn’t consider this an application, there’s nothing to take forward.

In order to ensure fairness all applications must be received via official channels and with a CV, even referrals that start as intros and headhunts. We wouldn’t meet you informally first, that would again be unfair on other candidates and quite possibly a waste of hiring manager time, you’d have a standard recruitment process.

We also move fast, jobs are filled quickly.

I agree with this, the intro you’ve got from your ex-colleague is just that and while the hiring manager might use it to ensure they keep an eye out for your application, it’s still on you to prove you can do the job (and that the ex-colleague hasn’t over-egged the pudding with their glowing intro!). You’ve been told to apply through the normal channels so just do that!

theworriermum · 06/03/2025 08:06

@SoftPillow totally understand, it was bad timing. I just wasn't in a position to update my CV. I am back now so will do so today and send it over by her EOD and also apply formally.

That said, she could have arranged a call in the meantime. I don't ask the internal recruitment team to waste their time screening a referral.

In my experience the next interview IS with the hiring manager. Could differ sector to sector and job to job but typically this is the case and has been within the company I work,

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