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Hostile neighbour regarding fencing

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RubyRoo29 · 05/03/2025 19:26

Sorry but it's a bit of a long one.

During the severe storms we had back in December our fence was blown down. We have started to gather quotes for a new fence. This is where the problem started. We had a contractor out this evening for a quote to which our neighbour shouted at us and him that we are not to step foot on his property. We have been nothing but good neighbours to him and have looked out for him over the last four years we have lived here as he is elderly and alone. He then went into his back garden and started blaming us for the fence falling down back in December and apparently we have been throwing weed killer into his garden and allowing others to jump over the fence into his garden. He then started shouting and swearing at us to say how dare we even consider getting the fence fixed and he will do it in his own time when he is ready despite us now being unable to allow our dog out into the garden for nearly 3
Months now due to the risks of him escaping. The whole argument got a bit heated as he was blaming us for the fence falling down in the wind. So I think my whole question here is AIBU for being so upset by the way he acted over wanting to have a fence that is secure in our garden. We are trying to determine where the boundary line is. If anyone could help that would be fantastic too. In context the fence is on our front door line if that makes sense and the good side faces us but it was put up before we moved in. Any responses would be amazing and thank you if you are still hear reading this

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Punishmentforthis · 05/03/2025 20:28

MissMoneyFairy · 05/03/2025 20:27

That's not true. It will either be marked on your deeds or the sellers information pack from the previous owners when you bought the house. Either way you can put up a new fence on your own land.

Not necessarily

Punishmentforthis · 05/03/2025 20:27

YourCheeryRoseHedgehog · 05/03/2025 20:21

I don't think everyone follows the good side rule. We did when replacing our fence, but the neighbours on the other side gave us their bad side when putting a new fence in.

That’s rude of them

Stickthatupyourdojo · 05/03/2025 20:27

Ours is as Marshbird said, all shared. Our house was built 1998. Was such fun when we lost sections of our fence shared with a total of 7 neighbours (and ours is a modest sized family garden, we're basically the garden that everyone else's stops on!).

MissMoneyFairy · 05/03/2025 20:27

Punishmentforthis · 05/03/2025 19:32

If the good side is on your side, I would assume that your neighbour owns the fence

That's not true. It will either be marked on your deeds or the sellers information pack from the previous owners when you bought the house. Either way you can put up a new fence on your own land.

socialdilemmawhattodo · 05/03/2025 20:22

Walkden · 05/03/2025 19:41

I think the T on the boundary line is not true for all properties. There are no such marking on my deed for example.

Similarly, the convention about the good side facing neighbours is just that. My neighbours replaced the fence on one side and the good side faces their garden, which is fair enough as they paid for it.

I replaced the other side as it needed doing and the good side faces my garden

Unless you know who paid for the original fence you might have to build your own next to the original one.

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This is true on convention. I replaced my fence - 2 diff neighbours and spoke to them both. Neither had a preference. The main fence they have the good side as I wanted the rails for garden wires. The other shorter side - i think I have the good side as they had a very old trellis system in front and neither of us can really see it anyway.

GreenCandleWax · 05/03/2025 20:22

It sounds as though it is his fence. (Good side facing you is the convention). Perhaps he feels bad that he has not got round to repairing it since December, and that is why he is very defensive. Could you ask him if he would like your assistance in repairing it? That would come over better than just taking the matter into your own hands.

RubyRoo29 · 05/03/2025 20:21

This is all that is shown

Hostile neighbour regarding fencing
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YourCheeryRoseHedgehog · 05/03/2025 20:21

I don't think everyone follows the good side rule. We did when replacing our fence, but the neighbours on the other side gave us their bad side when putting a new fence in.

TammyJones · 05/03/2025 20:20

AquaPeer · 05/03/2025 19:42

The “good side” and “left side are myths

my deeds also don’t have T marks, seems quite a common error. You could get his deeds and see if they’re marked on his, but if your house is wrong they might all be

Basically it’ll come down to whoever wants to pay for it. I would just do it because he sounds so unstable anyway, as long as you’re not asking him for money he’ll just have to suck it up

Agree
Just do it.
One time, the neighbor paid for the new fence , at the back, right side. Ours I think.
We paid for the back.
Then the neighbour on the left - their fence at the back - we paid for.
One neighbour went halves one time - we did it - their fence.
And the last time we both removed the hedge together and then he paid for the new fence.
Moral of the story- who ever can afford it pays - or the fence stays down.
Luckily in our current house it's all walks and hedges - and brilliant neighbours.

RubyRoo29 · 05/03/2025 20:18

We have downloaded the deeds for our sanity tonight and they are not marked clearly at all. It just shows our entire boundary and nothing to suggest fencing/wall boundaries

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Marshbird · 05/03/2025 20:17

MikeRafone · 05/03/2025 19:32

The deeds will mark with a T which side the fence belongs to, download a copy from online for £7

as for the neighbour, does he have family you could contact about his health. People jumping over the fence is really sounding like he isn’t well

not all properties have this on deeds. it’s not that uncommon for it not to be clearly marked, and has to be established another way during conveyencing,
Some properties even share their boundary fences anyway. My current property was built in 1964- nowt on deeds. It’s shared. We both muck in to fix it. Or have so far.

RubyRoo29 · 05/03/2025 20:15

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Yes it sounds ridiculously petty but I said to my husband that I will video and photograph everything we do regarding old/new fence so that everything is documented properly

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RubyRoo29 · 05/03/2025 20:13

Unfortunately I don't think he has much family left maybe a cousin that he has discussed in passing but would have no idea on how to find them. I think we are going to have to do as some others have said and just put the broken fence back onto his side as he will not let us deal with it and just build a new one onto our property. I think we are also going to put some cameras up as I feel slightly nervous about him now after our argument as he could come onto our property quite freely at the moment until we can get a new fence built up over the next few weekends

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CaptainRosy · 05/03/2025 20:13

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Wenway93 · 05/03/2025 20:12

AcquadiP · 05/03/2025 19:39

The good side (without posts) is on your side so that's his fence.

Not always true through. We have a fence dividing us and the house that backs onto our garden. We have the posts on our side but talking to the neighbour he said he put the fence up and all around his garden he has put the posts on the outside so he has the good side facing in.

Northerngirl821 · 05/03/2025 20:10

Sounds very much like undiagnosed dementia, try not to take it personally. I think you will struggle to have any sensible conversation with him about it.

It would be worth trying to find out if he has any family who need to made aware that he is struggling.

As far as the fence goes, I think your best option is to cover the gap with a fence on your own side of the boundary for now so you can at least let your dog out - maybe something like chicken wire just to cover the gap?

Breadcat24 · 05/03/2025 20:10

just build a fence a couple of inches in on your side

RubyRoo29 · 05/03/2025 20:09

SnoopysHoose · 05/03/2025 20:09

If it's just panels just put them back up yourself, it's not a big job.

The entire thing has rotted so we are past the point of repair now unfortunately

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Stillplodding · 05/03/2025 20:09

RubyRoo29 · 05/03/2025 19:50

I completely feel where you're coming from. We believe our neighbour also has hoarding issues as he will not let anyone into the property past the front door. It's just so unfortunate that it came to be like this tonight and I feel so disappointed that he felt like he needed to act like that to us

We’ve lived here nearly ten years. For the first few weeks we thought the house was empty and due to be sold (perhaps waiting for probate or something).

The front driveway is ruined as butterfly bushes have taken hold in the paving and are now huge and lifted all the blocks. It’s a two car driveway but you can now only fit one. There is a tree growing in front of her garagevdoir, again through the paving. It’s about 7/8ft now. The pile of post in her front porch is waist height and a meter wide. You can see the stacked boxes and piled up furniture through the window. The tree worries me every time we have a storm- it’s so close to the back of both houses. The tree is significantly taller than our roof- you can see it clearly if you stand in front of either house. The branches go over both our houses by several meters and because it’s so close if it came down it could easily land on either house.

For a significant period last year I think her electricity was cut off- you could see her moving around at night by torchlight but there were never any main lights put on. Again I reported this to the council as a welfare issue. No help was forthcoming. They just said they were aware of the issue as they’d had several reports.

When we first moved in we tried to be neighbourly- Christmas cards etc, trying to check on her when it snowed, seeing if she needed any help. Nothing major, just tried to be polite and friendly, She was either rude and aggressive or completely ignored any contact. Any attempt over the last few months to sort out the fence/tree issue has resulted in the same. It wears you down.

SnoopysHoose · 05/03/2025 20:09

If it's just panels just put them back up yourself, it's not a big job.

RubyRoo29 · 05/03/2025 20:03

Sunnydaysatthelaptop · 05/03/2025 20:00

Was the contractor stood in his garden? Could he be worried about you damaging things/trampling plants?

No he was measuring everything up in our garden he didn't step foot in his garden

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RubyRoo29 · 05/03/2025 20:02

snotathing · 05/03/2025 19:57

Ok, he's obviously a bit bonkers then. Does he have 'good' days anymore when you could discuss it?

I feel really awful saying this but he's been a bit 'odd' since we moved in 2021. He was nothing but lovely then and has taken in countless parcels when we have been in work during Christmas and what not. I even spoke to him yesterday and he was completely fine but he just snaps every now and again but it has never been directed at us so tonight was just all a bit overwhelming tbh. I think we may be a bit past the point of conversation now as he tends to do this then not talk to whoever he's fallen out with again which I feel awful about as we live next door to him so is really uncomfortable

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anon2022anon · 05/03/2025 20:01

Not all deeds tell you who is responsible for the fencing. It's perfectly possible and common that some don't.
Some tell you somewhere in the deeds wording that everyone is responsible for the left fence or similar, others don't.
Some no-one is responsible for, so you can try to get your neighbour to split, but you can't make them.
Which side the 'good side' faces has no relevance, you can point a fence you buy whichever way you like.

In your situation, if you can put up a fence without entering his garden I'd go ahead and do it regardless, whether that's on the original posts or just inside your boundary. He can't afford it, and you don't want a dog in his garden, so what's he going to do? Shout for a while then move on. But that's me.

Sunnydaysatthelaptop · 05/03/2025 20:00

Was the contractor stood in his garden? Could he be worried about you damaging things/trampling plants?

Ohnobackagain · 05/03/2025 19:59

@RubyRoo29 if it isn’t on the deeds then it might say in the paperwork your solicitor would have got when you purchased? There are usually questions the solicitor asks the vendor. In mine it says which we own and which we do not - might be worth looking at the documentation?