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Hostile neighbour regarding fencing

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RubyRoo29 · 05/03/2025 19:26

Sorry but it's a bit of a long one.

During the severe storms we had back in December our fence was blown down. We have started to gather quotes for a new fence. This is where the problem started. We had a contractor out this evening for a quote to which our neighbour shouted at us and him that we are not to step foot on his property. We have been nothing but good neighbours to him and have looked out for him over the last four years we have lived here as he is elderly and alone. He then went into his back garden and started blaming us for the fence falling down back in December and apparently we have been throwing weed killer into his garden and allowing others to jump over the fence into his garden. He then started shouting and swearing at us to say how dare we even consider getting the fence fixed and he will do it in his own time when he is ready despite us now being unable to allow our dog out into the garden for nearly 3
Months now due to the risks of him escaping. The whole argument got a bit heated as he was blaming us for the fence falling down in the wind. So I think my whole question here is AIBU for being so upset by the way he acted over wanting to have a fence that is secure in our garden. We are trying to determine where the boundary line is. If anyone could help that would be fantastic too. In context the fence is on our front door line if that makes sense and the good side faces us but it was put up before we moved in. Any responses would be amazing and thank you if you are still hear reading this

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Edamcheese · 06/03/2025 19:52

Yes it does look like it’s his fence. If I was you I would take up your patio tiles and then put up a new fence with the good side facing you ,just make sure it’s on your property then relay the tiles. It will cost you a bit of money but that’s worth it as you don’t want to get in a fight with your neighbour as he sounds like a nasty piece of work even if he suffers from mental health that’s not your problem ,look after your own mental health as he is the type who will ruin that. You’ve got rights too so don’t let this guy intimidate you. Good luck.

Bearhunt468 · 06/03/2025 19:36

Can you contact your solicitor who dealt with the conveyancing. We have to this as the copy we downloaded (and had) didn't show t marks/the boundary mark covered it. But the solicitor was able to view some sort of different documentation (maybe original title deeds) they received during the process and were then able to show us.

Mooandmae1 · 06/03/2025 18:48

Thankgoditsbedtyme · 06/03/2025 12:15

It’s possible he is experiencing the effects of sun downing which mean late afternoon, early evening behaviours and confusion can be totally different to the norm.

This seems entirely possible. If he was previously pleasant and you had a good relationship alzheimers/dementia seems very likely.

MIL who had alzheimers fell out with both neighbours who were friends for 40 plus years and just couldn't see reason. Her personality genuinely changed and it was so sad to see. Neighbours had sunflowers and we had months of phone calls saying kids were at her fence staring in the house.

He's lucky to have a neighbour like you. You shouldn't stop any of you plans but he fact that your concerned is really nice. Just be prepared thar pretty soon you may need to involve the police or SS if you are genuinely worried for his safety. MIL was found walking the streets alone with no coat at 2 in the morning and was found by a very kind man who took her home and called the police

Thankgoditsbedtyme · 06/03/2025 12:15

treesocks23 · 05/03/2025 22:20

I have a close family member with dementia and this all sounds sadly very typical. Falling out with lots of people, them not understanding, paranoia and thinking everyone's out to get them, security concerns etc. I would say a good possibility they are ill.

It’s possible he is experiencing the effects of sun downing which mean late afternoon, early evening behaviours and confusion can be totally different to the norm.

RubyRoo29 · 06/03/2025 11:50

justasking111 · 06/03/2025 11:48

That's good your dogs need to be safe

Absolutely. He breaks my heart when he can't get to the garden he's such a sunshine lover and can spend hours out in the garden when it's lovely out so it's such a shame

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justasking111 · 06/03/2025 11:48

That's good your dogs need to be safe

RubyRoo29 · 06/03/2025 11:29

I think we have a plan. We are just going to place the broken fence back onto his property and build our own fence up as he can't say anything then. Also think we are going to install some cameras this weekend as he can't accuse of us anything then and gives us peace of mind if anything was to happen with our fencing.

Thank you for all your kind comments and suggestions

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whynotwhatknot · 06/03/2025 11:26

just put up your own my neigbour has done this suits me dont have to worry about that side now- you cant make hhim do anyting on his own property

TheUsualChaos · 05/03/2025 22:52

Similar experience with our elderly neighbour. My advice is just crack on and get the fence done, the longer it goes on the more obsessive he will become about it.

Punishmentforthis · 05/03/2025 22:42

mum11970 · 05/03/2025 21:37

No. We paid for our fence on our boundary and put the good side facing us because it’s our blooming fence.
You need to find out whose fence it is before doing anything though. If it’s not your fence and he doesn’t want you to touch it then leave it alone. You have the choice of putting your own fence up on your boundary.

It used to be the convention to give your neighbour the good side. Not sure if that was for practical reasons (easy access to the posts) as well as courtesy.

treesocks23 · 05/03/2025 22:20

RubyRoo29 · 05/03/2025 19:32

We have thought this for a while he has said to us on a few occasions that he thinks that people are breaking into his garden and smashing things up. He fell out with another neighbour over a car battery charger and this led to him barricading himself in the house for two weeks

I have a close family member with dementia and this all sounds sadly very typical. Falling out with lots of people, them not understanding, paranoia and thinking everyone's out to get them, security concerns etc. I would say a good possibility they are ill.

Soontobe60 · 05/03/2025 22:00

RubyRoo29 · 05/03/2025 19:40

So we would have to just leave it like that until he decides to do anything about it? Sorry this is a whole new world for us this is our first house

No. You can put up a fence on your property inside his fence. We have done this as our neighbours didn't want the fence touched. The grey fence was the original one, the horizontal slatted fence is the new one - the old one is still there. (The cats are mine)

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FavouriteFilms · 05/03/2025 21:44

Hopefully he has time to calm down

He may be worried about the costs of repair.

If you are happy, and can convince him, get it repaired and bear the cost yourselves, no matter who it ultimately belongs to.

I think this is the most expedient thing.

It does sound like your neighbour is suffering a little, and possibly could do with some help from a kindly referral to social services. ( aged care)

We have fence posts with the cross bars and planks attached. One of these was giving way, and I asked my husband if we could just install another post, next to the one which was less stable.

That wasn’t an option, and he was quite rude and nasty about the idea, until talking about it with my brother, who confirmed it was a good option, and this is what my husband did.

It was a cheap repair for us, and doesn’t look odd, that there are two posts together.
Men !! ( mine hasn’t even got old age as an excuse )

mum11970 · 05/03/2025 21:37

AcquadiP · 05/03/2025 19:39

The good side (without posts) is on your side so that's his fence.

No. We paid for our fence on our boundary and put the good side facing us because it’s our blooming fence.
You need to find out whose fence it is before doing anything though. If it’s not your fence and he doesn’t want you to touch it then leave it alone. You have the choice of putting your own fence up on your boundary.

justasking111 · 05/03/2025 21:29

Our neighbour was awkward it's taken 8 years and many repairs because he didn't want it changed. He wouldn't let us touch the ivy which was adding to the weight. Thank god storm Darrah finally smashed it to smithereens. We got quotes he tried to insist on the type, we ignored, he tried to give us some money we refused. The panels went up . He's so delighted he's getting them in to do some for him. And the bloody ivy is no more 👋

Devianinc · 05/03/2025 21:27

RubyRoo29 · 05/03/2025 19:40

So we would have to just leave it like that until he decides to do anything about it? Sorry this is a whole new world for us this is our first house

You can put the fence on your property line but it looks like you don’t have much room. He could also be way over the property line. You might need a land survey

RubyRoo29 · 05/03/2025 21:04

I guess we will see what happens tomorrow. I am hoping he has time to think about it overnight and will maybe speak to us tomorrow. If not then I'm guessing we will just put the fence back onto his property and build a new one on our property line. I'm just really upset and disappointed that it played out like this I think but as others have said I think he may be suffering from some issues and is not thinking logically but I guess we will see

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Nanny0gg · 05/03/2025 21:02

AcquadiP · 05/03/2025 19:39

The good side (without posts) is on your side so that's his fence.

That isn't always the case

StrongTea · 05/03/2025 20:58

Could you drop him a note explaining what you intend to do regards the fence, might give him a chance to think it through.

BogRollBOGOF · 05/03/2025 20:54

socialdilemmawhattodo · 05/03/2025 20:22

This is true on convention. I replaced my fence - 2 diff neighbours and spoke to them both. Neither had a preference. The main fence they have the good side as I wanted the rails for garden wires. The other shorter side - i think I have the good side as they had a very old trellis system in front and neither of us can really see it anyway.

We have 50:50 fences. On one side we opted for the "bad side" as it was better for trellis, and they used the side more. At the back we have the "good" because it faces our house and their side and the other side is "good" because much of theirs is hidden.

As there's no expense being imposed on him, I'd make sure the garden is secure. It will also protect you from him long term.

doodleZ1 · 05/03/2025 20:51

All you can do is either build a full new fence on your side or a panel on your side. However the way he is I think you will probably get trouble again. My mother was accused of stopping the water going into her elderly neighbours house. The woman was out swearing to turn her water back on. Mum phoned the police and 2 of them arrived to talk to the neighbour. We have Community Police here and they can be contacted online. They try and deal with neighbourhood issues to avoid things getting worse. I would make sure they spoke to him in advance of any fence. Hopefully he will be warned off and if they think he has an issue they may involve social services.

florasl · 05/03/2025 20:50

InfoSecInTheCity · 05/03/2025 19:31

My understanding is that general rule is that the owner of the fence gets the posts on their boundary so if you've got the good side, it may be that he owns the fence. You can still put up your own alongside where his would sit but it needs to be completely within your boundary.

This is completely untrue.

Have you purchased your neighbours deeds to check it for T Marks? If it isn’t on your deeds I’d guess it is your neighbours fence. You can therefore build a fence within your land but not on the boundary, there is absolutely no obligation for a fence to be erected on a boundary.

If your neighbours deeds also don’t have T Marks, it is assumed to be a party boundary and the boundary is therefore maintained jointly and equally.

dementedpixie · 05/03/2025 20:40

MissMoneyFairy · 05/03/2025 20:35

Looking at your house from the front what side is the fence

This is not set in stone either. We share responsibility for fences with our neighbours. When the fence on the right between me and the neighbour came down recently, they found someone to fix it and we paid half each.

RubyRoo29 · 05/03/2025 20:35

MissMoneyFairy · 05/03/2025 20:35

Looking at your house from the front what side is the fence

Left hand side same side as the front door

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MissMoneyFairy · 05/03/2025 20:35

Looking at your house from the front what side is the fence