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MaybeBaby1313 · 05/03/2025 16:10

I’ve name changed for this and will try to give as much info as I can to get the best responses.
So apologies for the length

I’ve been with my DH for 7 years, married for 4.
Generally things have been good most of the time.

We don’t have DC, which isn’t relevant to my post but is something that people may ask.

However DH has an intellectual disability and is also neurodiverse, but is exceptionally good at masking so I didn’t realise the full extent of his issues until we lived together.

The biggest issue he has is that when he is upset, usually over something minor, to him it’s huge. He feels his life is over if he has a minor setback and tends to lash out verbally and say the most awful things, I’m told he did this to his parents as a child, and it’s something he’s continued in to adulthood but now I get the brunt of it.

He calms down quickly and is always very sorry for the things he’s said, He has never been physically abusive in any way
he runs away (literally) from any kind of conflict or argument and generally seems to struggle with managing his emotions.

BUT

At times when things between us have been absolutely fine, he would hug me and squeeze a little too tight, not every time, just sometimes.

This would leave my breathing restricted for a few seconds so I’d try to speak or poke him etc to get him to let go.

He would apologise:/ say he didn’t mean to hold me that tight and we’d move on.

But, I started to notice it was happening often, and that it was taking him longer to let go when I tried to alert him to being unable to breathe. I started to feel it may be intentional, although couldn’t figure out the point of it.

I bought it up, made sure not to accuse, just said that he was cutting off my air supply sometimes when he hugged me

And it stopped for a long time.

Lately, he’s taken to coming up and hugging me from behind if I am sat at my desk etc, which seems lovely but he is hugging me by putting his arm around my throat.
And squeezing.

Being mindful of before, I didn’t react. Because if it is deliberate then he must be looking for a reaction.

The first time, he let go, as you would after a hug

The next time, he repositioned himself slightly, and then ‘hugged’ again, tighter

I still didn’t react, so he shifted slightly and did it again.

This has now happened multiple times
So I no longer feel it’s unintentionally just being a little heavy handed with the hug

The last time he did it, although I hadn’t reacted he says ‘sorry, couldn’t you breathe’

So it’s clear to me that he does know what he’s doing and that he’s looking for me to react and tell him I can’t breathe, so when I haven’t done that, he’s doing it harder to get the reaction

Now, I want to be clear that I am strong enough to push him off me, I’ve allowed it to happen so I can try and figure out what he’s trying to achieve but I do not feel in any real danger and would not let him do it to a point where it was dangerous.

But, am I over reacting to a too tight hug, or is he trying to restrict my breathing?

And if he is, why?
He doesn’t lash out physically when he’s upset or angry or at times where it would make sense (although it still wouldn’t be acceptable)

So what is the point in cutting off my air supply for a few seconds in a hug, and then letting go? When life is otherwise good

I just don’t get it, which is why I thought it wasn’t intentional but there’s just no way it can be accidental at this point,

incase it’s relevant, he isn’t controlling in any way, in fact I have the most control in our lives, including with finances.

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HateMyselfToo · 07/03/2025 16:36

Just in case this is real..

@MaybeBaby1313 I hope you're okay.
You've had a lot of 'leave him immediately' posts (which I agree with) which have probably been quite hard to read.

What's going through your mind at the moment? Is there anything you want to talk through?

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 06/03/2025 16:48

he is hugging me by putting his arm around my throat. And squeezing.

OP, you know this is not a hug, not even a pretence of hugging. He has escalated from seeing how much he could hurt you by squeezing your chest, to openly getting you in a headlock that could kill you.

None of this is playful or affectionate. He has a serious mental illness that you can’t cure. The longer you stay, the more likely he is to kill you.

Please, please leave him now.

LBFseBrom · 06/03/2025 16:32

The op hasn't returned, which is her right of course, but I do wonder if this is a genuine post.

ItGhoul · 06/03/2025 14:56

wizzywig · 05/03/2025 19:12

Could be sensory seeking behaviour. Could be something sinister

FFS, he’s an adult man to whom the OP is married, not a child, or a dependent for whom she’s a carer. If his ‘sensory seeking behaviour’ involves repeatedly choking his wife, he needs to fuck right off, regardless of his neurodivergence. It is sinister and abusive whether it’s sensory-seeking or not.

BunnyLake · 06/03/2025 09:00

RealEagle · 05/03/2025 22:11

This man sounds familiar.Has he been to Blackpool?

Hmmm 🤔

HereForTheFreeLunch · 06/03/2025 08:59

Who the hell "hugs" around the throat and then says "sorry couldn't you breath?"!!!

Get the hell away from him before he does the worst. (And as per pp - you wouldn't be able to stop it if he continues.)

Qwee · 06/03/2025 08:45

He absolutely is physically abusing you and you have proof that it is deliberate and escalating.

Thank god there are no children involved.
Please leave him.

He is a dangerous abuser.

VickyEadieofThigh · 06/03/2025 08:39

TheMorels · 05/03/2025 22:14

I agree. It could be a good outlet. 😉

Yes, football is known for dampening down male aggression!

thepariscrimefiles · 06/03/2025 06:42

SerenaSemolena · 05/03/2025 18:16

Does he have any outlet for his energy, op?
Maybe he should join a weekend football team, or something.

What a great idea. Footballers are famously never abusive are they.

FFS he could seriously injure or even kill OP but you think a bit of five a side football will sort this out?

Biscuitsnotcookies · 06/03/2025 06:12

Maybe we have scared op - I hope you are still reading at least. Can you please tell someone in real life what is happening, even if you can’t leave at the moment, so you have some real life support?

I know you say you are in control, but if he isn’t listening to you about this and hasn’t stopped - how much control do you actually have? Even over what is happening to your own body.

falalalalaaaaaaaa · 06/03/2025 06:05

Another one who was holding their breath reading that, OP. Whether it's an impulse control issue (sort of like intrusive thoughts, wanting to see how it feels/what would happen) or something else, he's building it up and he's ignored your (multiple) requests to stop doing it. He's seeing how far he can go and I think everyone can see that the furthest he can go looks like him killing you. If he can't control his impulses around things like this, he is not safe around you. You aren't safe with him. Please, please walk away from this whilst you still can. It might feel like you could stop him but there is no way to guarantee that and it's clearly something that gives him a thrill - that isn't safe, and it never will be. I'm not usually someone to suggest leaving at the drop of a hat but please, please leave.

HebeMumsnet · 05/03/2025 23:09

Hi there, OP. We hope you're ok this evening. We just wanted to send you a link to our Domestic Violence web guide which might have some numbers that could be of help.

CalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 05/03/2025 22:56

I’m worried for you, OP. I don’t like it. I have a lot of experience with neurodiversity (teacher) and I don’t say this lightly but I’d end the relationship. He’s deliberately and repeatedly experimenting with stopping you breathing.

TheWellSungGame · 05/03/2025 22:35

Another voice to say that strangulation is the reddest of red flags. You are not safe. This man could kill you.

Please contact a domestic violence service for support in leaving him, as a breakup with a violent man (this is violence) is an incredibly dangerous time.

GlomOfNit · 05/03/2025 22:23

OP, I really hope you're reading these replies and realising what sort of situation you're in. Please get away from him as soon as you can do so.

TheMorels · 05/03/2025 22:14

SerenaSemolena · 05/03/2025 18:16

Does he have any outlet for his energy, op?
Maybe he should join a weekend football team, or something.

I agree. It could be a good outlet. 😉

RealEagle · 05/03/2025 22:11

This man sounds familiar.Has he been to Blackpool?

Isthiswhatmenthink · 05/03/2025 21:14

This is a very dangerous and escalating situation. He’s looking for something by doing this to you. He’s not getting it. He’s escalating. This is going to go only one way.

Iizzyb · 05/03/2025 21:07

This is no way to live OP. You need to get out of the marriage. I'm so sorry x

Lavender14 · 05/03/2025 20:55

Also op, I hate to say it but if this is a need he has that is not being met - because its completely unsafe- someone needs to be aware of this incase that comes out in other areas of his life with other people. If it were me I'd be logging it with any specialists he's working with and the police. Strangulation is one of the major risk factors that preceed homicide and op, it often looks exactly like what you're describing.

Lavender14 · 05/03/2025 20:52

I think op that the fact he is ND is a bit of a red herring here - you've got so caught up in trying to understand how his mind works and the reasons behind things so you can navigate your relationship that you've missed the key point that, regardless of the 'why' the behaviour is still the behaviour. You've told him clearly that you don't like what he's doing and he's in control of it enough to have been able to stop it for what you describe as a long time. So this isn't something he's doing because he absolutely must/ isn't aware/ doesn't understand the boundary you've put in place - he's doing it because he wants to and that want (irregardless of why he wants to) is more important to him than the fact you've told him you don't like it and why. He values himself over your safety and comfort and feelings. That's not sustainable in any relationship. Many ND people take boundaries very seriously because clear boundaries help them understand other people better. So that in itself really isn't relevant.

You said you could have stopped it if you'd chosen to and you didn't because you wanted to see what would happen. The thing is op - that is entirely, entirely based on him letting go as soon as you need him to. If he decided to hold on for longer or not let go then actually you couldn't stop him and he could kill you or render you unconscious. You're in a much more vulnerable position here than you seem to realise.

I think you've been in this with him and trying to understand him for so long that you've kind of lost the urgency in this. He's not a puzzle for you to figure out - either you like how he treats you or you don't. ND or not it is still his responsibility to do what he needs to in order to navigate his relationships in a healthy and safe way - as a partner it is not your job to do this for him and it sounds like that's the role you've been filling. It also sounds like there's been an escalation of his behaviour since you moved in together and have become more dependent on him in that living together means your home is now with him. That tracks with quite controlling behaviour. I think you need to leave op, urgently and without giving him warning. This behaviour won't stop it will only get worse.

Does he have a specific diagnosis and does he receive support from a specialist? I honestly think if you track back through your relationship you'll find other controlling behaviours you've maybe put down to him being ND and dismissed without realising.

Picklelily99 · 05/03/2025 20:51

YABU to think you can control this/him! I do NOT want to read of your grisly demise in the newspapers! Get help NOW - for him, for you. Notify any 'bodies' you can; doctors, police etc.

Mygosh · 05/03/2025 20:27

Why aren't you telling him you don't like it? Not only does he sound dangerous, but you are playing a dangerous game.

Harriethulas · 05/03/2025 20:25

This is chilling to read and gave me goosebumps. I think there may be a misdiagnosis or an undiagnosed personality disorder alongside his intellectual disability. He sounds like a psychopath. He’s testing the waters.

Toothemoonandback · 05/03/2025 20:24

I’m so sorry this is happening to you. Please don’t underestimate this intentional action. I haven’t read all the replies, so apologies if you have already been signposted to this report:
https://brainkind.org/too-many-to-count/

I just wanted to share that restricting your breathing/cutting off your air supply, can have long lasting effects which you may not immediately recognise.

What he is doing is extremely dangerous. Neurodivergence is not an excuse/rationale for causing repeated harm. As an adult with capacity, once you made him aware that he was hurting you, an empathetic response would be to not want to repeat the act. Maybe even avoiding hugging you, for fear of hurting you accidentally.

His response is to repeat the action, even adjust his positioning for more effect. He is experiencing some sort of pleasure from doing this to you. It is extremely worrying, and highly dangerous. He is lacking in empathy and feeling pleasure at exerting this level of control over your ability to breathe.

Too Many to Count

Too Many to Count is the first study in the United Kingdom to explore the prevalence of brain injury in domestic abuse survivors accessing community-based service

https://brainkind.org/too-many-to-count/