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Toddlermama123 · 05/03/2025 15:42

Thanks to anyone who reads this long post .
Now , I am aware that it cannot be diagnosed until much later as lots of the symptoms mirror toddler behaviour but I’d like to ask for the unbiased opinion / share experiences with other toddler’s mums . My little one just turned 2 ( 25 months ) and she is my first . She has tons of words and uses them to get what she wants , lots of 2/3 word combination . She eats and sleeps well and , although shy ( only child ) , she did engage in a ball game a couple of days ago with another little girl by tossing and kicking the ball between each other . She is perfectly able to follow 2 step instructions and mimics everything. Both good expressive and receptive language .

  1. she asks for food
  2. If I ask pick up the glass and put it on / under the table she does it .
  3. She asks questions like where’s daddy ? What’s that ? What’s that sound?
  4. She answers questions : what color is the ball ? What’s /where’s that ?
  5. She recognises herself in the mirror and us in pictures
  6. When holding a big and small object she can identify the correct size .
She doesn’t hit , kick or bite ( so far ) , plays appropriately with toys and when she is in a bit of a mood she runs towards her teddy and hugs it ( she doesn’t get destructive or hurt herself ) . She sits for lunch and dinner . When she has a tantrum always ends within 5 minutes and seeks comfort . What concerns me is :
  1. if I’d take her to do circle time she wouldn’t join ever . She would watch from afar / next to me .
  2. She wouldn’t sit still to read a book at the library but prefers to explore . Yet she sits happily at home drawing .
  3. She is highly anxious ( so I am ) in the way that she sobs and gasp for air when scared .
  4. She has a memory of steel . She remembers where a bit of purple fluff that she found a while back was
She has always slept through the night from 7 to 6.30 since 12 months and eats fairly well , Any of these red flags rings a bell please ? There is no family history of ASD but obviously no one knows for certain and , from what I can tell , there is no quirkiness so I’d like to know how asd can develop when not genetic ? I am aware of environmental exposure but I have had a textbook pregnancy and was never exposed to anything harmful ☺️ I know that Asperger doesn’t exist anymore since 2013 as a separate diagnosis but , from what I was told by professionals, AS doesn’t present with any communication delays , just social delays and repetitive/ rigidity interests , alongside with food sensitivity and emotional outbursts . Where do we draw the line between asd and personality traits ?
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Toddlermama123 · 08/03/2025 17:14

Purplepandabears · 08/03/2025 17:05

The cutlery and repetition are totally normal as well. Mine is a bit older than yours, and will repeat a phrase over and over until I say it back - they want to be acknowledged that they're heard. And cutlery is hard! A year ago they didn't even have purposeful movement of their hands, let alone fine motor skills to that degree.

Toddlers are also very much about what's in front of them, so it wouldn't be too odd she hasn't mentioned your DP if she hasn't seen him in a few days. What's their relationship like typically? Do they spend much 1:1 time together?

It's clear you care about your DD very much. Instead of worrying about therapies, why not try get out to a swim class or soccer class where you both can meet new people and see different behaviours modelled in different environments? 💐 At this age they don't make friends per say, but it can help to expose them to new situations to ease them in.

Thank for your kind words . Yes she loves him and spend a lot of time together as he works from home most of the time so they spend a lot of time outside and on the beach . When around she always looks for him . Yes cutlery is hard she can use the fork but the spoon she still flips it . Again, thank you for your kind and understanding words . For reference , he thinks she is absolutely beautiful

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ThighsYouCantControl · 08/03/2025 17:07

OP, you need to get some help with your own anxiety/issues. Your daughter sounds like a perfectly lovely 2 year old. At most she might be a bit anxious but then if she’s spending a lot of time with you and you’re an anxious person she’s most likely learnt it from you.

BeachRide · 08/03/2025 17:05

This seems pathological now. Mods - would this be considered vexatious posting?

Purplepandabears · 08/03/2025 17:05

Toddlermama123 · 08/03/2025 16:57

She also repeats herself quite a bit until I acknowledge her and i am also concerned that she doesn’t acknowledge her daddy . He has left for a business trip 3 days ago and she doesn’t mention him at all

The cutlery and repetition are totally normal as well. Mine is a bit older than yours, and will repeat a phrase over and over until I say it back - they want to be acknowledged that they're heard. And cutlery is hard! A year ago they didn't even have purposeful movement of their hands, let alone fine motor skills to that degree.

Toddlers are also very much about what's in front of them, so it wouldn't be too odd she hasn't mentioned your DP if she hasn't seen him in a few days. What's their relationship like typically? Do they spend much 1:1 time together?

It's clear you care about your DD very much. Instead of worrying about therapies, why not try get out to a swim class or soccer class where you both can meet new people and see different behaviours modelled in different environments? 💐 At this age they don't make friends per say, but it can help to expose them to new situations to ease them in.

Bababear987 · 08/03/2025 17:03

OP everything and I will say it again EVERYTHING you have described is normal for her age.

Why are you trying so hard to turn normal toddler behaviour into something else? You need help!
Stop trying to convince everyone that theres something wrong with your child. What does your husband say? I'm hoping he is being sensible at least.

Toddlermama123 · 08/03/2025 16:57

Toddlermama123 · 08/03/2025 16:29

Aside from the fact that she is not very good with cutlery still and she is very cautious but smiles at people when they interact with her .

She also repeats herself quite a bit until I acknowledge her and i am also concerned that she doesn’t acknowledge her daddy . He has left for a business trip 3 days ago and she doesn’t mention him at all

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Squeakpopcorn · 08/03/2025 16:37

The only ‘red flag’ is the high anxiety but from your description that could be learnt behaviour.

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 08/03/2025 16:33

Typical and normal behaviour OP. Nothing. You have said would concern me except maybe the learned behaviour of being anxious. Children that young should necessarily know that emotion and are seeing the world through your eyes. If she is having that big of a reaction it’s because she is seeing it from you. Consider how you can help her to understand this emotion .

Toddlermama123 · 08/03/2025 16:29

Purplepandabears · 08/03/2025 15:33

She sounds like a completely normal toddler. That level of speech, and conversation, is completely typical. And at this age, toddlers just stand and stare at each other instead of play - they don't engage in more than parallel play until after 3.

It does sound like you're fixating on this, and I completely understand the drive to do as much as possible for your kids. It doesn't sound as if she's behind in any way, so no additional therapies would be needed unless there's something you didn't detail in your OP.

Aside from the fact that she is not very good with cutlery still and she is very cautious but smiles at people when they interact with her .

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Purplepandabears · 08/03/2025 15:33

She sounds like a completely normal toddler. That level of speech, and conversation, is completely typical. And at this age, toddlers just stand and stare at each other instead of play - they don't engage in more than parallel play until after 3.

It does sound like you're fixating on this, and I completely understand the drive to do as much as possible for your kids. It doesn't sound as if she's behind in any way, so no additional therapies would be needed unless there's something you didn't detail in your OP.

Namechangetry · 08/03/2025 15:24

Your daughter isn't 'flying under the radar', there's just nothing wrong with her. She not being picked up as ND, because she isn't ND

Get some help for your anxiety before you damage your child with it.

Needmorelego · 08/03/2025 14:59

@Toddlermama123 please I beg you....
get some help.
Not for your daughter but for you.
You are obsessed. Your daughter sounds normal and fine.
Get. Some. Help.
Please.
Stop posting over and over on here and book an appointment with your GP who should be able to refer you for help. For YOU.

Bigcat25 · 08/03/2025 14:56

But some autistic children are non verbal or have delayed speech. Similarly some children are NT and may develop speech more slowly, but then catch up and be perfectly fine. (A few of these in my family.) Your child may not do evrything like other kids but it doesn't mean she isn't NT.

Toddlermama123 · 08/03/2025 14:50

Bigcat25 · 08/03/2025 14:41

AS can present as communication delays. I'm not sure why you would think otherwise.

i agree with you but , before 2013 , AS was mainly a social delay along with restrictive / repetitive interests . I know things have changed but the reason , I believe , why so many flow under the rader is because with AS communication is not a problem in the first 2/3 years ( not talking about scripting or echolalia ) just normal speech . That’s why AS existed on its own

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Bigcat25 · 08/03/2025 14:41

AS can present as communication delays. I'm not sure why you would think otherwise.

Adhikv · 08/03/2025 14:38

I think a lot of it sounds normal toddler behaviour but if you do think she has ASD there’s no harm in a wait and see approach at this age.
My DD was diagnosed with ASD at 7 and at 2 I had no inkling but it did become apparent as she got older and the differences between her and her peers grew

Nonametonight · 08/03/2025 14:31

You really need to get some help for yourself. Please try to get some counselling or therapy, and consider trying a medication.

I can see you desperately want to do the right thing for your child, but at the moment you're fixating on the idea that she is autistic in a way that's going to be really unhealthy for both of you.

Like you've been told by lots of posters, your daughter sounds like a normal, happy toddler.

Ferrazzuoli · 08/03/2025 14:29

This all sounds completely typical OP.

Pawtucketbrew · 08/03/2025 14:26

You can't be a little bit autistic. It's a fallacy.

Pawtucketbrew · 08/03/2025 14:25

If it gets to the point where professionals eg school, HV etc think you need to explore this,a professional will assess and diagnose your child. A professional diagnosis has a threshold so you either are or you are not ASC. You may display some symptoms (I certainly do) but you won't meet the threshold for a diagnosis which is very specific.

Therefore please stop worrying about it and let your child develop at her pace.

GaspingGekko · 08/03/2025 14:22

What do you hope to gain from this thread that you haven't got from your many previous ones @Toddlermama123 ?

Toddlermama123 · 08/03/2025 14:18

Pawtucketbrew · 08/03/2025 14:04

My DD had completely (as far as I could tell) normal development until the age of around 5. Very social and engaged with the world around her. She is now 13 and diagnosed ASC.

What I'm saying is you can't always tell anyway what will happen down the line. As pp has said. Stop pathologising your daughter's behavior because it sounds as if you are currently projecting your health anxiety on her.

She may be found to be ND down the line, or not. You can't control it so unless there are huge deficiencies which there clearly are not, enjoy your child and more so let her enjoy her life without her parent constantly thinking she's is not developing properly.

But this exactly my point .. given that the spectrum is so wide nowadays and if kids develop seemingly NT where does the line with personality end and the spectrum begin ?

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Namechangetry · 08/03/2025 14:07

Your gut feeling is wrong. Your toddler doesn't need therapy.

YOU need therapy to tackle your anxiety and fixation about this. Deal with your anxiety before it damages your child. I say that as a mother with anxiety.

Pawtucketbrew · 08/03/2025 14:04

My DD had completely (as far as I could tell) normal development until the age of around 5. Very social and engaged with the world around her. She is now 13 and diagnosed ASC.

What I'm saying is you can't always tell anyway what will happen down the line. As pp has said. Stop pathologising your daughter's behavior because it sounds as if you are currently projecting your health anxiety on her.

She may be found to be ND down the line, or not. You can't control it so unless there are huge deficiencies which there clearly are not, enjoy your child and more so let her enjoy her life without her parent constantly thinking she's is not developing properly.

vodkaredbullgirl · 08/03/2025 13:52

So professional have said your child has no problems at all, stop looking for them.