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Toddlermama123 · 05/03/2025 15:42

Thanks to anyone who reads this long post .
Now , I am aware that it cannot be diagnosed until much later as lots of the symptoms mirror toddler behaviour but I’d like to ask for the unbiased opinion / share experiences with other toddler’s mums . My little one just turned 2 ( 25 months ) and she is my first . She has tons of words and uses them to get what she wants , lots of 2/3 word combination . She eats and sleeps well and , although shy ( only child ) , she did engage in a ball game a couple of days ago with another little girl by tossing and kicking the ball between each other . She is perfectly able to follow 2 step instructions and mimics everything. Both good expressive and receptive language .

  1. she asks for food
  2. If I ask pick up the glass and put it on / under the table she does it .
  3. She asks questions like where’s daddy ? What’s that ? What’s that sound?
  4. She answers questions : what color is the ball ? What’s /where’s that ?
  5. She recognises herself in the mirror and us in pictures
  6. When holding a big and small object she can identify the correct size .
She doesn’t hit , kick or bite ( so far ) , plays appropriately with toys and when she is in a bit of a mood she runs towards her teddy and hugs it ( she doesn’t get destructive or hurt herself ) . She sits for lunch and dinner . When she has a tantrum always ends within 5 minutes and seeks comfort . What concerns me is :
  1. if I’d take her to do circle time she wouldn’t join ever . She would watch from afar / next to me .
  2. She wouldn’t sit still to read a book at the library but prefers to explore . Yet she sits happily at home drawing .
  3. She is highly anxious ( so I am ) in the way that she sobs and gasp for air when scared .
  4. She has a memory of steel . She remembers where a bit of purple fluff that she found a while back was
She has always slept through the night from 7 to 6.30 since 12 months and eats fairly well , Any of these red flags rings a bell please ? There is no family history of ASD but obviously no one knows for certain and , from what I can tell , there is no quirkiness so I’d like to know how asd can develop when not genetic ? I am aware of environmental exposure but I have had a textbook pregnancy and was never exposed to anything harmful ☺️ I know that Asperger doesn’t exist anymore since 2013 as a separate diagnosis but , from what I was told by professionals, AS doesn’t present with any communication delays , just social delays and repetitive/ rigidity interests , alongside with food sensitivity and emotional outbursts . Where do we draw the line between asd and personality traits ?
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Toddlermama123 · 09/03/2025 08:21

Simplynotsimple · 05/03/2025 16:54

I (and others) have previously asked the op if her daughter is in nursery but the op won’t even consider that to have an independent assessment in a social setting with peers. At this point it just feels like the op is looking for a free online diagnosis based on nothing (which obviously won’t happen). To what end, who knows.

It is not a matter of me not wanting to put her into nursery . It is that I can’t atm

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Toddlermama123 · 09/03/2025 07:57

Exactfare · 09/03/2025 07:37

I spent a lot of time when my eldest was a toddler worrying he was autistic, there where lots of little subtle signs

He would never have been diagnosed and no one else noticed anything

It wasn't until he was 7 that a teacher first noticed anything, he's just had his diagnosis at 9

And... All that time spent worrying was still completely wasted time, it won't change anything and nothing you've written is enough to warrant assessment yet.

Just let them be, they'll either be autistic or they won't. If they are it will become more obvious when they are older and you can get the ball rolling

Yes I agree , all the time wasted was and still is a waste of time .
may I ask , what did the teacher notice? Did You receive any support

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Exactfare · 09/03/2025 07:38

Oh and my NT younger kid didn't say more than 5 words until he turned two!

Exactfare · 09/03/2025 07:37

I spent a lot of time when my eldest was a toddler worrying he was autistic, there where lots of little subtle signs

He would never have been diagnosed and no one else noticed anything

It wasn't until he was 7 that a teacher first noticed anything, he's just had his diagnosis at 9

And... All that time spent worrying was still completely wasted time, it won't change anything and nothing you've written is enough to warrant assessment yet.

Just let them be, they'll either be autistic or they won't. If they are it will become more obvious when they are older and you can get the ball rolling

MammaTo · 09/03/2025 07:24

Toddlermama123 · 09/03/2025 07:10

Again these kind words are really helping me . I hope you and your family are happy .
in general my daughter can adapt to new things well but she is very cautious at first and tends to act out if fearful . for example if she wants to go left and we have to go right she tends to whinge a lot . She seems to like routine very much .

I can fully accept the pressure we have to do as much as we can for our kids but I think your toddler sounds like their acting very typical for their age.

I don’t know about you, but I do get a lot of “early signs of autism” type of tik tok videos or Instagram reels, is this what’s causing you so much anxiety? If so it might be time to step back from social media and just enjoy your LO who sounds like a lovely child.

Nonametonight · 09/03/2025 07:22

You really really need to stop looking up autism on the internet. Consider doing a digital detox - it might help you a lot.

I suspect you're getting a lot of information from tiktok or Instagram. The algorithm has spotted you click on content about autism signs in toddlers and so is presenting you with more content like that. These are not good information sources.

At the moment, your child is developing perfectly normally. You have been told this by multiple medical practitioners.

There is no need to be concerned about her flying under the radar at two. Early intervention doesn't exist in the UK anyway and is not of proven value.

What you need to do for your daughter is get off the internet, get some help for your anxiety, and start enjoying the lovely little girl you have

Suzuki76 · 09/03/2025 07:18

But again - so what?! You can't be prescribed a pill for autism prevention. She's nowhere near school so doesn't need any extra academic assistance. Cross that bridge when you come to it.

Completelyjo · 09/03/2025 07:15

Honestly you need to step back and stop pushing this on your very young child.
Claiming autism because your just turned 2 year old can’t always use cutlery and wants to walk in her own direction? Or because she wasn’t having back and forth conversations at 18 months?! This isn’t being obsessed with routine, it’s just being a toddler and resisting authority.
You need to spend more time with 2 year olds and learn what is age appropriate behaviour.
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Toddlermama123 · 09/03/2025 07:10

Gagaandgag · 08/03/2025 21:29

He was diagnosed with ASD with demand avoidance, sensory and sleep challenges.
We were told that once he is diagnosed they don’t offer any ongoing support. We tried to get an adhd diagnosis and were told it was just part of his asd and meds wouldn’t be appropriate.
Many people I know have had very similar situations.

My son is now 8 and has never been to school. I was a teacher before and so I knew he wouldn’t cope. We have been back again several times to the GP concerned about his aggression and self harm. Nothing has ever come of it.

However a friends son, the same age, is in school. He has a 1:1 and is mainly educated separately from his classmates. He is on adhd meds.

Very happy to offer any other personal experience. I grew up with a brother and cousin with autism.
I worked in a SEND school during my career.

Again these kind words are really helping me . I hope you and your family are happy .
in general my daughter can adapt to new things well but she is very cautious at first and tends to act out if fearful . for example if she wants to go left and we have to go right she tends to whinge a lot . She seems to like routine very much .

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Toddlermama123 · 09/03/2025 06:58

Gagaandgag · 08/03/2025 21:30

What do you think is concerning you most about your child?

I guess I don’t know exactly where she should be in terms of language and social skills . There is a lot on the internet and I get that there are some families who have had a very linear and typical language development but flew under the radar until school started . Autism as always been there but sometimes it becomes apparent only later and not in the first years . Just because my child passes the ASQ and the social and emotional questionnaire doesn’t mean anything ( that’s what I was told )

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Gagaandgag · 08/03/2025 21:30

What do you think is concerning you most about your child?

Gagaandgag · 08/03/2025 21:29

Toddlermama123 · 08/03/2025 18:08

Thank you for sharing your words . Hope you don’t mind me asking but why haven’t they offered any support ?

He was diagnosed with ASD with demand avoidance, sensory and sleep challenges.
We were told that once he is diagnosed they don’t offer any ongoing support. We tried to get an adhd diagnosis and were told it was just part of his asd and meds wouldn’t be appropriate.
Many people I know have had very similar situations.

My son is now 8 and has never been to school. I was a teacher before and so I knew he wouldn’t cope. We have been back again several times to the GP concerned about his aggression and self harm. Nothing has ever come of it.

However a friends son, the same age, is in school. He has a 1:1 and is mainly educated separately from his classmates. He is on adhd meds.

Very happy to offer any other personal experience. I grew up with a brother and cousin with autism.
I worked in a SEND school during my career.

Errors · 08/03/2025 20:37

CarpetKnees · 08/03/2025 19:04

Been to GP and HV , short of going private ( which I can’t) and no one sees a problem

There you are then.
Nor does anyone on any of the 4 threads you've started in the last fortnight.

Why do you think this particular thread will get you any different answers ?

Exactly this

CarpetKnees · 08/03/2025 19:04

Been to GP and HV , short of going private ( which I can’t) and no one sees a problem

There you are then.
Nor does anyone on any of the 4 threads you've started in the last fortnight.

Why do you think this particular thread will get you any different answers ?

pinkcow123 · 08/03/2025 18:27

@Toddlermama123 @Gagaandgag probably hasn't received much support because there is very limited support out there. Most support you can find on Google and it's using strategies to help parent your child...
or connecting with other parents of children with ASD

pinkcow123 · 08/03/2025 18:22

Gently OP, what would be different right now if she did have ASD?

Nothing you are saying screams ASD to me - but realistically, unless it's so severe that it's impacting their ability to learn (which def doesn't sound like it is anywhere near that atm!) it's a wait and see...

ForensicFlossy · 08/03/2025 18:22

Your toddler sounds like any normal toddler, kindly, you need to get help, this is becoming obsessive.

Toddlermama123 · 08/03/2025 18:08

Gagaandgag · 08/03/2025 17:49

Hi Op, my son was diagnosed at 4. My advice is

Please get a handle on your compulsive thoughts. I got a slightly like this.

After he got his diagnosis nothing happened. We got no further support.

What are you aiming to achieve by obsessing over spotting signs?

Parent them in a supportive way.

Please please just try and enjoy your child

Thank you for sharing your words . Hope you don’t mind me asking but why haven’t they offered any support ?

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Unicornsandprincesses · 08/03/2025 18:07

Get on instagram and look for people who share tips on development/speech/phonics learning and employ some of their tips. There are some real therapists on there. Get started early if you're worried. They're all just games you can play.

E.g. a tea party where you hand cups and cakes back and forth, saying things like "is this for me? Oh, here is one for you too. I would like to red one." It's modelling pronouns I, you, me, she, he, etc. (get dolls involved)

Things like this got my daughter talking quickly (and I don't think she ever slowed down!)

Unicornsandprincesses · 08/03/2025 18:04

she sounds exactly like my very NT 5 year old daughter was at that age. I wish wish wish wish I hadn't let my anxiety take over in those first 3 years and convince me she was autistic.

SpanThatWorld · 08/03/2025 17:56

Toddlermama123 · 08/03/2025 13:05

It is mainly a gut feeling that she is on the spectrum and I know I am gonna get a lot of hate but I do believe she has Asperger ( I am aware that the name has been barred) simply because I can see 18 months old having good back and forth conversation with their parents and mine never did it until recently ( she never said the word yes but says okay for it ) . She doesn’t have meltdown etc . All I’d like to know is that , if any parents have encountered this sort of presentation before and what could be done in terms of therapies ? Been to GP and HV , short of going private ( which I can’t) and no one sees a problem . This is very typical for girls to fly under the rader and problems become apparent much later on .

Everyone has told you that her behaviour is normal

Everyone has told you that your gut feeling/obsession/need to pathologise is your issue and not hers

There is no therapy available for being an individual. She doesn't meet all of the tickboxes at exactly the moment you want her to. But she meets them.

Finding cutlery difficult is not a diagnostic indicator for ASD

The boundary between personality trait and diagnosis is fuzzy but best described as interference in leading a normal life. Her behaviour is not interfering in leading a normal life. She is fine.

Gagaandgag · 08/03/2025 17:49

Hi Op, my son was diagnosed at 4. My advice is

Please get a handle on your compulsive thoughts. I got a slightly like this.

After he got his diagnosis nothing happened. We got no further support.

What are you aiming to achieve by obsessing over spotting signs?

Parent them in a supportive way.

Please please just try and enjoy your child

Takemeawayy · 08/03/2025 17:29

She sounds completely normal. My second is the same age and there’s lots of similarities. All kids are different so stop comparing your dd to other and enjoy her for who she is. My two are completely different. They have strengths and challenges in different areas. They will all do it in their own time. Keep encouraging her to interract with others. Take her to groups. Mix with friends with the same age children and you will be supporting her social skills

Purplepandabears · 08/03/2025 17:23

It's probably a sign that she's having too much fun with her mama to notice the absence of him.

As a fellow anxious mom it can be hard sometimes! I was convinced my eldest DC had ADHD, and signs eased massively as we came to the end of toddlerhood. They're still developing so much at this age. Celebrate your DC successes - it sounds like she has a lot! She is healthy, she is happy, she is learning at her own pace and doing brilliantly. She has a mama & dad who cares deeply, and is learning to communicate and navigate the world at a normal rate.

ZiggyZowie · 08/03/2025 17:19

At that age my daughter was biting people on the bum and growling at strangers !

Don't think you've anything to worry about