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to tell ex that if parents evening is that important, he can sodding well go?

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PyongyangKipperbang · 04/03/2025 22:51

Youngest of six in senior school. Parents evening once a term and every term it is the same. She is top set and doing very well, not bragging, just a fact. I spend a couple of hours sitting waiting and then probably half an hour total being told that she is doing very well and then getting the sales pitch for her to choose their subject for GCSE. Talked to her earlier about the next one and asked her if she would mind if we didnt go, she said she thought it was a waste of time. Her father messaged me tonight asking if I had made the appointments as he gets the email reminders. I said no as I wasnt going and asked if he had made his own appointments. He went MAD. I am a bad mother, I dont care about her, I should go blah blah. I said that I had been to all the other appointments and it hadnt really told me anything I didnt know but he was welcome to go himself. Again, it was my job, I am a shit mother who doesnt care about her.

So that was when I lost my shit and said "Well considerning you have never been to a single one of her parents evenings, perhaps this is the time you should go if you think it matters so much". Radio Silence.

I dont feel that it will make any difference, DD agrees.

So, if it matters to him so much, he can go right?

OP posts:
Thirteenblackcat · 07/03/2025 22:44

PyongyangKipperbang · 07/03/2025 22:24

This the last time I responding.
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I have not accused the OP of lying. She did keep changing the story though.
Six of one and half a dozen of the other?

My story has not changed. And AGAIN you are victim blaming.......you absolutely digust me.

Every sore raised, she had a plaster for. Why not give us all the plasters in the beginning? OP had 6 children: on page 10 she revealed only 1 was his. Did he raise the other five, or do they live with their father?
What the hell does that have to do with with the question I asked (clue...nothing)

The OP couldn't go to the meet teacher
Wrong. I said I WOULDNT

The CF had a message from the school. The OP said he contacted her when he got the email and asked he if she was going. She said no she couldn't and could he
Wrong. I said I wasnt going, he called me a shit mother (his words) and I said if it was so important he should go

Dare I ask too if DH no 1 also went to the meet teacher evening?
Yes, we shared them 50/50 both before and after divorce due to usually only one of us being able to make it.

We all - including me - said he was wrong to insult her. I went a bit further and suggested she had known him long enough to know what he was like and should not respond to him. Again, the story changed.
Wrong. The story did not change, I simply took the time to reiterate points that you either hadnt bothered to read, or if you had read them, you didnt understand them.

If they cannot go together, best not to even discuss it between them. Just make separate arrangements with the school.
We have. He gets his own updates and information but doesnt want to actually shift his arse and do anything, but uses the information THE SCHOOL gives him to try and slag me off. He instigated the conversation, not me. But I will absolutely NOT take being called a bad mother by a piece of fucking shit like him.

our posts are worth nothing anyway.
Well yours definitely are worth nothing.

Oh and as all inhibitions are off and I can swear with impunity.....please take your fucking pointless self important bullshit and annoy the cunting hell out of someone else.

Share and enjoy.

Edited

Love it.

PyongyangKipperbang · 07/03/2025 22:24

llizzie · 07/03/2025 20:49

Perhaps you are right. I didn't know Mumsnet was only for people to leave all their inhibitions behind and swear to their heats content.

I don't remember being shown a rule that says only bad language allowed.

I have not accused the OP of lying. She did keep changing the story though.

Six of one and half a dozen of the other?

Every sore raised, she had a plaster for. Why not give us all the plasters in the beginning? OP had 6 children: on page 10 she revealed only 1 was his. Did he raise the other five, or do they live with their father?

The OP couldn't go to the meet teacher. The CF had a message from the school. The OP said he contacted her when he got the email and asked he if she was going. She said no she couldn't and could he. He rounded on her said she was a bad mother and she said he had never been at all which was worse.

Dare I ask too if DH no 1 also went to the meet teacher evening?

We all - including me - said he was wrong to insult her. I went a bit further and suggested she had known him long enough to know what he was like and should not respond to him. Again, the story changed.

I still stand by what I said.

If they cannot go together, best not to even discuss it between them. Just make separate arrangements with the school.

If the same thing happens again, she will have completely ignored all the advice and our posts are worth nothing anyway.

Here's me thinking that people post on here because they want help.

This the last time I responding.
.
I have not accused the OP of lying. She did keep changing the story though.
Six of one and half a dozen of the other?

My story has not changed. And AGAIN you are victim blaming.......you absolutely digust me.

Every sore raised, she had a plaster for. Why not give us all the plasters in the beginning? OP had 6 children: on page 10 she revealed only 1 was his. Did he raise the other five, or do they live with their father?
What the hell does that have to do with with the question I asked (clue...nothing)

The OP couldn't go to the meet teacher
Wrong. I said I WOULDNT

The CF had a message from the school. The OP said he contacted her when he got the email and asked he if she was going. She said no she couldn't and could he
Wrong. I said I wasnt going, he called me a shit mother (his words) and I said if it was so important he should go

Dare I ask too if DH no 1 also went to the meet teacher evening?
Yes, we shared them 50/50 both before and after divorce due to usually only one of us being able to make it.

We all - including me - said he was wrong to insult her. I went a bit further and suggested she had known him long enough to know what he was like and should not respond to him. Again, the story changed.
Wrong. The story did not change, I simply took the time to reiterate points that you either hadnt bothered to read, or if you had read them, you didnt understand them.

If they cannot go together, best not to even discuss it between them. Just make separate arrangements with the school.
We have. He gets his own updates and information but doesnt want to actually shift his arse and do anything, but uses the information THE SCHOOL gives him to try and slag me off. He instigated the conversation, not me. But I will absolutely NOT take being called a bad mother by a piece of fucking shit like him.

our posts are worth nothing anyway.
Well yours definitely are worth nothing.

Oh and as all inhibitions are off and I can swear with impunity.....please take your fucking pointless self important bullshit and annoy the cunting hell out of someone else.

Share and enjoy.

OP posts:
llizzie · 07/03/2025 20:49

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 07/03/2025 19:33

You seem to think the less information we have the better. The story isn’t getting longer, the details are being filled in as posters respond and ask for more information. Context is everything, especially with the written word - nuance tends to get lost in the translation.

If you don’t like bad language I really don’t think MN is the place for you - but since you’ve just intimated that OP is lying in some way, I’d get ready for a barrage of it !!

Perhaps you are right. I didn't know Mumsnet was only for people to leave all their inhibitions behind and swear to their heats content.

I don't remember being shown a rule that says only bad language allowed.

I have not accused the OP of lying. She did keep changing the story though.

Six of one and half a dozen of the other?

Every sore raised, she had a plaster for. Why not give us all the plasters in the beginning? OP had 6 children: on page 10 she revealed only 1 was his. Did he raise the other five, or do they live with their father?

The OP couldn't go to the meet teacher. The CF had a message from the school. The OP said he contacted her when he got the email and asked he if she was going. She said no she couldn't and could he. He rounded on her said she was a bad mother and she said he had never been at all which was worse.

Dare I ask too if DH no 1 also went to the meet teacher evening?

We all - including me - said he was wrong to insult her. I went a bit further and suggested she had known him long enough to know what he was like and should not respond to him. Again, the story changed.

I still stand by what I said.

If they cannot go together, best not to even discuss it between them. Just make separate arrangements with the school.

If the same thing happens again, she will have completely ignored all the advice and our posts are worth nothing anyway.

Here's me thinking that people post on here because they want help.

thepariscrimefiles · 07/03/2025 20:45

llizzie · 07/03/2025 19:25

I don't know what that is supposed to mean. I cannot expect everyone to have the same values in life that I do.

Perhaps you all deserve one another. No one must give advice; no one must criticise; the OP is always right, always the victim.

OMG, such sanctimony about your 'values' when you are the one whose posts keep being deleted for breaking Mumsnet's posting guidelines.

Hopefully, you have flounced off by now.

thepariscrimefiles · 07/03/2025 20:37

llizzie · 07/03/2025 19:18

While you are being rude to me, you must be leaving some other poor soul alone. I don't mind. If you have to be nasty to someone, better me that the children or the xes.

OP has been pretty measured throughout the thread despite your goady and tedious responses.

Her ex-DH is an arsehole and OP is quite rightly furious about his double standards when he is a completely uninvolved and lazy father. She was pretty restrained with her response to him but you insist on implying that OP unleashed an undeserved tirade of invective at him which did not happen.

JamesWebbSpaceTelescope · 07/03/2025 20:12

llizzie · 07/03/2025 19:25

I don't know what that is supposed to mean. I cannot expect everyone to have the same values in life that I do.

Perhaps you all deserve one another. No one must give advice; no one must criticise; the OP is always right, always the victim.

Fortunately a lot of people don’t have your values and don’t think a woman is responsible for a vile man.

I don’t know who you were referring to with your ‘perhaps you deserve each other’ comment when the op has said she was the victim of serious domestic violence. Horrid comment. Which says a lot about you.

Thirteenblackcat · 07/03/2025 19:48

llizzie · 07/03/2025 19:25

I don't know what that is supposed to mean. I cannot expect everyone to have the same values in life that I do.

Perhaps you all deserve one another. No one must give advice; no one must criticise; the OP is always right, always the victim.

Sanctimony and ignorance aren’t really admirable values, HTH

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 07/03/2025 19:33

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You seem to think the less information we have the better. The story isn’t getting longer, the details are being filled in as posters respond and ask for more information. Context is everything, especially with the written word - nuance tends to get lost in the translation.

If you don’t like bad language I really don’t think MN is the place for you - but since you’ve just intimated that OP is lying in some way, I’d get ready for a barrage of it !!

PyongyangKipperbang · 07/03/2025 19:32

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Oh I do speak "bad language" or swearing as actual grown ups call it.

i am not speaking it right now but I am thinking really really BIG swears, really very loudly.

OP posts:
llizzie · 07/03/2025 19:25

Thirteenblackcat · 07/03/2025 19:21

Oh gosh, you’re invested in this aren’t you!?

I don't know what that is supposed to mean. I cannot expect everyone to have the same values in life that I do.

Perhaps you all deserve one another. No one must give advice; no one must criticise; the OP is always right, always the victim.

llizzie · 07/03/2025 19:23

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Thirteenblackcat · 07/03/2025 19:21

llizzie · 07/03/2025 19:11

This is not like your original post that everyone commented on. You keep coming back with more, so that the whole thread is changing rapidly.

Why not keep to the basic complaint about his being rude to you and say nothing about what the meeting was?

Oh gosh, you’re invested in this aren’t you!?

llizzie · 07/03/2025 19:18

PyongyangKipperbang · 07/03/2025 19:15

Oh do bugger off.

While you are being rude to me, you must be leaving some other poor soul alone. I don't mind. If you have to be nasty to someone, better me that the children or the xes.

lazyarse123 · 07/03/2025 19:18

You did the right thing op. Honestly a lot of pps should go back to school and study comprehension. It's like they're in a parallel universe.

WinterBones · 07/03/2025 19:17

yanbu, i've had this same conversation with my ExH. he's never been either

llizzie · 07/03/2025 19:16

PyongyangKipperbang · 07/03/2025 19:11

Do you get paid for making stuff up or is it just a hobby?

We had a slanging match now?! What an imagination you have!

Well what do you call it. He messaged you about the meet teachers. You said you couldn't go, and was he going instead. He said no, and called you a nasty name. You then said you lost your temper ( well actually you used bad language, which I would never write) and reminded him that he has never been to meet teacher ever, at all.

He didn't like that. It was much the same as he called you, in effect. If you didn't swear at him, why swear at us?

Don't have a conversation with him. When he comes for his contact with his daughter, say nothing.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 07/03/2025 19:16

llizzie · 07/03/2025 19:11

This is not like your original post that everyone commented on. You keep coming back with more, so that the whole thread is changing rapidly.

Why not keep to the basic complaint about his being rude to you and say nothing about what the meeting was?

But what about context ? To know whether OP was reasonable or not in her response the details about the meeting are relevant, and had she not mentioned it in the opening post she would have been accused of drip feeding. If you read her updates it’s all there.

PyongyangKipperbang · 07/03/2025 19:15

llizzie · 07/03/2025 19:11

This is not like your original post that everyone commented on. You keep coming back with more, so that the whole thread is changing rapidly.

Why not keep to the basic complaint about his being rude to you and say nothing about what the meeting was?

Oh do bugger off.

OP posts:
PyongyangKipperbang · 07/03/2025 19:14

This reply has been deleted

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llizzie · 07/03/2025 19:11

PyongyangKipperbang · 07/03/2025 18:54

The entire conversation was conducted via whatsapp, me "losing my shit" was along the lines of saying "how fucking dare he call me bad parent?!" to my sister who I was with at the time and sending the reply that he could go himself if he thought it was so important. No abuse, no shouting, no nothing. And he is the father of my youngest child after my first husband (father of the 5 eldest) and I divorced amicably.

SS decided that he could have contact as he has never been deemed a risk to her, only to me. So yes, I do need to have contact with him to arrange these things, but I am not some cowed victim, I will call out shitty treatment each and every time. I am not afraid of him now, and never will be again.

This is not like your original post that everyone commented on. You keep coming back with more, so that the whole thread is changing rapidly.

Why not keep to the basic complaint about his being rude to you and say nothing about what the meeting was?

PyongyangKipperbang · 07/03/2025 19:11

llizzie · 07/03/2025 19:08

I suggested nothing of the kind. What sort of contact is a slanging match? What good does it do? Do you need it, when it ends up in insults and makes you unhappy?

Do you get paid for making stuff up or is it just a hobby?

We had a slanging match now?! What an imagination you have!

OP posts:
Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 07/03/2025 19:10

PyongyangKipperbang · 07/03/2025 19:06

Why are we bothering?

I appreciate your support, but cant help feeling that we are wasting our time!

Not really sure now you’ve pointed it out 🤣. The poster said they lost interest a few pages back, so surprised they’re still digging themselves a misogynistic hole
responding. For the record I think you were a lot more restrained in your response to your ex’s hypocrisy than I would have been !!

llizzie · 07/03/2025 19:08

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 07/03/2025 19:05

Seems perfectly clear to me that OP has to have contact with him as he is her DD’s father. Even if he’s been abusive to OP the courts won’t necessarily consider him a danger to his daughter, and it sounds as though he has access. So what you’re suggesting is that she kow tow to him and act like a scared victim. Thus giving him the upper hand. And you’re not a misogynist ? OK then.

I suggested nothing of the kind. What sort of contact is a slanging match? What good does it do? Do you need it, when it ends up in insults and makes you unhappy?

PyongyangKipperbang · 07/03/2025 19:06

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 07/03/2025 19:05

Seems perfectly clear to me that OP has to have contact with him as he is her DD’s father. Even if he’s been abusive to OP the courts won’t necessarily consider him a danger to his daughter, and it sounds as though he has access. So what you’re suggesting is that she kow tow to him and act like a scared victim. Thus giving him the upper hand. And you’re not a misogynist ? OK then.

Why are we bothering?

I appreciate your support, but cant help feeling that we are wasting our time!

OP posts:
Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 07/03/2025 19:05

llizzie · 07/03/2025 18:42

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · Today 10:02

I left something out of my reply to you.

''If he thought it was important he should go himself''. Could that be taken as a reminder that he had never taken an interest in any of his children? This it hurtful. How would anyone reply to that?

I suggested she had nothing to do with him, and am castigated for that. Why?

I am far from misogynist, believe me.

Why would any woman respond to a message sent by a nasty violent man and not ignore it? Worse, respond to it and accuse him? It is the last thing I would do. I never contacted my X, knowing what I would get if I did.

Seems perfectly clear to me that OP has to have contact with him as he is her DD’s father. Even if he’s been abusive to OP the courts won’t necessarily consider him a danger to his daughter, and it sounds as though he has access. So what you’re suggesting is that she kow tow to him and act like a scared victim. Thus giving him the upper hand. And you’re not a misogynist ? OK then.