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to tell ex that if parents evening is that important, he can sodding well go?

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PyongyangKipperbang · 04/03/2025 22:51

Youngest of six in senior school. Parents evening once a term and every term it is the same. She is top set and doing very well, not bragging, just a fact. I spend a couple of hours sitting waiting and then probably half an hour total being told that she is doing very well and then getting the sales pitch for her to choose their subject for GCSE. Talked to her earlier about the next one and asked her if she would mind if we didnt go, she said she thought it was a waste of time. Her father messaged me tonight asking if I had made the appointments as he gets the email reminders. I said no as I wasnt going and asked if he had made his own appointments. He went MAD. I am a bad mother, I dont care about her, I should go blah blah. I said that I had been to all the other appointments and it hadnt really told me anything I didnt know but he was welcome to go himself. Again, it was my job, I am a shit mother who doesnt care about her.

So that was when I lost my shit and said "Well considerning you have never been to a single one of her parents evenings, perhaps this is the time you should go if you think it matters so much". Radio Silence.

I dont feel that it will make any difference, DD agrees.

So, if it matters to him so much, he can go right?

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Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 10/03/2025 09:27

llizzie · 08/03/2025 15:42

I did. I am not familiar with all the illnesses which are reduced to initials.

Would you know what GBS/CIDP is?

Wow, l missed this. Yes. CIDP is thought to be related to Guillain Barre syndrome. They’re both auto immune diseases causing difficulty with walking, respiratory problems and a wide range of other effects. If I remember rightly GBS is the acute form, often requiring emergency and ICU treatment and CIDP is chronic, with a slower onset - it affects the nerves around the brain and spinal cord.

l was a disability out reach worker for many years from the early 1990s. I’ve dealt with a broad spectrum of disability in that time. I only came across GBS/CIDP a couple of times towards the end of my career. It’s quite a rare form of autoimmune disease, and l don’t know the intricacies of it but l do remember one client saying that they had been misdiagnosed with MS and the CIDP symptoms had been recognised and treated too late to avoid him being left with permanent loss of sensation and impaired walking ability. I seem to remember breathing difficulties too, but not sure if that was connected.

thepariscrimefiles · 10/03/2025 09:12

JustJoinedRightNow · 10/03/2025 07:56

@MNHQ it might be time to get @llizzie off this thread now. What a total derailment and they are clearly on the wind up - saying ND didn't exist before 2000. Please. People come here for help and this person is just totally derailing this thread.

I agree. That poster is indefatigable in her awfulness and whenever you think that she has thankfully disappeared, up she pops again with some new ignorant, goady and ableist take on the situation. She's either in a different time zone or nocturnal.

Unfortunately, having most of her posts deleted doesn't seem to deter her.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 10/03/2025 08:27

llizzie · 10/03/2025 02:16

Which is why I advised her not to respond to him again. Why was I wrong?

Because they have a child together, and that child is coming to a crucial time in her education. OP has already explained that she limits contact with her ex wherever possible, but that he has access to DD, so sometimes it’s unavoidable. And you didn’t advise her not to respond, you blamed her for his abusiveness.

Thirteenblackcat · 10/03/2025 08:24

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 10/03/2025 08:15

I reported a couple of openly and shockingly ableist posts and MN saw fit to let one of them stand, so l wouldn’t be too hopeful that they agree she’s crossed a line. l haven’t helped because l’ve replied to most of them as well as the ones in which she’s tagged me, so l suppose l’ve perpetuated the derailment. It’s just so hard to ignore a poster who seems to be trying their hardest to be as offensive as possible.

I know what you mean. I’m just shocked that she is still able to post despite the derailment and some of the views expressed. Who knows how decisions are made in mnhq huh

sophiasnail · 10/03/2025 08:18

As a secondary maths teacher, I agree with you entirely! I love a positive chat with parents about how well their children are doing (most of mine are 16, 17 and 18) but I wouldn't blame you for not thinking it is necessary.

I would just say though, that it is important to praise bright children for doing well as much as everyone else. It's very common for parents (and teachers) to take for granted that bright children will keep working hard.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 10/03/2025 08:15

Thirteenblackcat · 10/03/2025 08:07

I’ve reported , it’s disgusting isn’t it

I reported a couple of openly and shockingly ableist posts and MN saw fit to let one of them stand, so l wouldn’t be too hopeful that they agree she’s crossed a line. l haven’t helped because l’ve replied to most of them as well as the ones in which she’s tagged me, so l suppose l’ve perpetuated the derailment. It’s just so hard to ignore a poster who seems to be trying their hardest to be as offensive as possible.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 10/03/2025 08:10

Hollyhedge · 10/03/2025 08:02

My son was always doing v well. Things changed bit in latter years. It’s also to see if they are ok in themself/ any concerns about mood or friendships. I wouldn’t miss it as things can change quickly during teens.

DD is in a program to help with her confidence - something OP was instrumental in arranging, and she gets regular fortnightly one to one updates from DD’s head of year on DD’s progress, both academically and socially. If anything changes she doesn’t have to wait for a parents evenings, she’s constantly kept informed.

rwalker · 10/03/2025 08:10

2 things would it be beneficial and does DD want you to go

we only went to a few our kids were 100% happy with this

only went in the first year and then when we needed advice on subject choices and in the last year
think we went to about 4 and can honestly say 1/2 of them were a waste of time

Thirteenblackcat · 10/03/2025 08:07

JustJoinedRightNow · 10/03/2025 07:56

@MNHQ it might be time to get @llizzie off this thread now. What a total derailment and they are clearly on the wind up - saying ND didn't exist before 2000. Please. People come here for help and this person is just totally derailing this thread.

I’ve reported , it’s disgusting isn’t it

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 10/03/2025 08:05

AuntAgathaGregson · 09/03/2025 01:01

Did you not notice that OP is going to meetings at the school about this supposedly forgotten child once a fortnight? She'd have to be going some to feel forgotten in those circumstances.

I’ve been on many threads where OP’s have been misinterpreted and posters have gone off at a tangent then argued the toss because they’ve not read - only skimmed. Seems to be the norm for MN these days to ignore what’s actually being asked and deliver a critique of the OP instead. But this one is off the scale. If there was a quick poll l wonder how many posters - if they were honest - completely missed that DD is ND, and that OP’s marriage ended because her ex was physically and verbally abusive, and ultimately tried to kill her. Either reading comprehension is markedly deteriorating or some posters are deliberately avoiding facts in order to either project their own experience or support their own narrative. That little ‘see all’ button on the OP might just as well not be there.

Hollyhedge · 10/03/2025 08:02

My son was always doing v well. Things changed bit in latter years. It’s also to see if they are ok in themself/ any concerns about mood or friendships. I wouldn’t miss it as things can change quickly during teens.

Thirteenblackcat · 10/03/2025 07:59

llizzie · 10/03/2025 02:16

Which is why I advised her not to respond to him again. Why was I wrong?

I think the OP cmade it clear that your small minded opinion didn’t matter to her. I have read your posts and you seem to have something wrong with you

JustJoinedRightNow · 10/03/2025 07:56

@MNHQ it might be time to get @llizzie off this thread now. What a total derailment and they are clearly on the wind up - saying ND didn't exist before 2000. Please. People come here for help and this person is just totally derailing this thread.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 10/03/2025 07:44

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And your time would be better spent off Mumsnet and taking your nasty bigoted and ableist opinions somewhere else. It’s only a few posts ago that you were insinuating that diagnosis was linked to disability benefits. Of course these conditions existed before 2000, they just weren’t recognised as such and children were left to get on with it. Have a look at how many middle aged women who have always known they were on the spectrum are now finally being diagnosed. The incidence of ND isn’t increasing, it was always there. It just wasn’t recognised. The tools now exist to identify it, so there is more diagnosis.

You didn’t know ND existed until a few days ago. You think googling a bit makes you an expert, and in a position to come here and lecture and belittle people who are living with it every day ? You claim to have been on the board of governors more than one special school, and yet you know nothing of the struggles parents have to get a diagnosis and appropriate provision for their children, or how LAs will stall with EHCPs.

My time on here is well spent if it’s challenging the narrow, ignorant and ableist crap spouted by people like you.

AgricolaOrBed · 10/03/2025 07:41

OP: I agree with you entirely. Your DH should step up if he’s so bothered and I think you know enough about your daughter and her school to decide whether or not it’s important to go to a particular parents’ evening - particularly given that you are in regular contact with the school and the sessions are termly this year.

Sorry that your thread has been derailed by @llizzie who seems to have several screws loose. But I think you’ve handled him/her magnificently.

thepariscrimefiles · 10/03/2025 07:29

@llizzie You literally didn't even know what neurodiversity was until a couple of days ago and you now feel qualified enough to lecture mums who have children with SEN?

You think that there were no children with SEN before 2000? No autism? No ADHD?

You are actually blaming mums with SEN kids for not doing anything about why their children have these conditions? You need to go on the Mumsnet SEN boards to educate yourself about the heartbreaking struggles that some mums go through to get help and support for their SEN kids, particularly in relation to their education. Your ignorant and ill-informed views are an insult to the parents of these children.

Your ignorance and lack of empathy and self-awareness are off the scale. Your views actually disgust me.

Tenthousandspoonsitslike · 10/03/2025 07:22

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You are such a nasty bigot. Here you are on your victim blaming again.

These conditions did exist before 2000, but now we have greater understanding and more clinicians who can make the diagnosis. It’s a good thing if we can get support where it is needed and not just label them as problem or naughty children

If you’re going to give an opinion at least make it informed instead of coming from your own nasty bigoted prejudices

JamesWebbSpaceTelescope · 10/03/2025 06:50

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And now you are blaming mums for their children having neurodiversity. Can you really now see how offensive you are being?

Neurodiversity diagnosis rates have increased in the last 50 years because there is a lot more being spotted and not just swept under the carpet as ‘problem children’ (your words). There is no evidence that there is an actual increase in the conditions just an increase in diagnosis.

llizzie · 10/03/2025 02:22

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llizzie · 10/03/2025 02:16

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 09/03/2025 10:55

You won't agree with me, but for the OP to say her X was so afraid of her he 'cowered behind a door' when she dropped off DD is nasty. Did he just want to avoid another row?

If you had any understanding of coercive controlling bullies, you would know that in general they are also cowards. The reason he was cowering behind the door is the same reason he cowers behind a phone when he’s dishing out abuse, and the same reason he will physically and verbally abuse a woman but wouldn’t dare do the same to another man. Cowardice. Why is this such a hard concept for you to get your head around ?

Which is why I advised her not to respond to him again. Why was I wrong?

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 09/03/2025 10:55

llizzie · 08/03/2025 17:42

I divorced my first husband. I stated that on a previous post. Why would you think I have no experience of abusive men?

I read and re-read every post the OP wrote.

OP says she doesn't consider herself a victim, how is anything me or anyone else says 'victim bashing' ? It is common sense. If there are no victims in a divorce, there are none after.

That word is overused and watered down. What will it mean in the future?

If you know what starts him off, why press his buttons? It is a very dangerous thing to do.

The OP admitted that she lost her temper. She said 'lost her s---' which I take to mean the same. Once you lose your temper, you lose an argument. Common knowledge.

When he called her a 'bad mother' she rounded on him and said him NEVER going made him a worse (s---) DF. Did he ever go to his DD's school all the years they were married?

That is what she wrote. Am I wrong? I called it six of one and half a dozen of the other. It has nothing to do with 'victim bashing', especially if she says she isn't a victim.

The OP is divorced. They only need to contact one another for the sake of the child. In this case the first contact was the DF who asked the OP if she was keeping the appointment. Why did it start a row? She could just have said 'no'.

When you make a child together, it is the responsibility of both to ensure that child grows up to be a level headed adult.

Parents have to love the child more than they hate each other. They have to be civil to one another for the child's sake.

DD has visitation with her DF, who messaged the OP about his DD's meet teacher appointment.

Don't blame me for her posts' confusions. The OP said she was sure she was right, but there was a 'but', so she wasn't sure. I filled in the 'but' and she didn't agree. Did you all have to use bad language to tell me that you didn't agree?

Did I touch a raw nerve?

As I said, while you are having a go at me, you are leaving some other poor soul alone, because you all have to have a go at someone, don't you?

The meet teacher evening is important. Many posters said so. It is a meeting of parents and class teachers, about the child's progress and future. It is not a head teacher meeting about health issues. The two are separate.

A 16 year old with issues should decide if the parents go or not. Other posters said how important it is. The parents must make up their own minds. If the child doesn't want to go, the parents can go alone. Don't you agree?

In the OPs first post, she berated posters because none had answered her question properly. She just wanted to have our approval at the abuse of her X.

I told her if she knew he was abusive, why respond to him? Nothing to do with victim bashing. Good sound advice. Free counselling, if you like. They don't live together, so why reply?

When I said 'after having 6 children she should know what angers him, she responded with the news that actually, this was his only child with her.

For 11 school years he had NEVER been to any of her schools to meet teachers? If true, it was very bad indeed. Was it only acceptable after the divorce? Was it never discussed in the marriage?

How can divorced parents row about not wanting to go to meet their DD teachers? He asked if she was keeping the appointment. Instead of saying just 'no' she told him that she had NO INTENTION of going. I got the first impression that she COULDN'T go, and OP balled me out because I wrote 'couldn't' instead. I really though that no parent would refuse to meet their child's teachers. My sympathy was for DD, not for him.

She was asking if she was justified in calling him a SF after he called her a bad mother'? You have to love your children more than you hate each other. If she didn't persuade him to go when they were married, why expect it now?

You won't agree with me, but for the OP to say her X was so afraid of her he 'cowered behind a door' when she dropped off DD is nasty. Did he just want to avoid another row?

You won't agree with me, but for the OP to say her X was so afraid of her he 'cowered behind a door' when she dropped off DD is nasty. Did he just want to avoid another row?

If you had any understanding of coercive controlling bullies, you would know that in general they are also cowards. The reason he was cowering behind the door is the same reason he cowers behind a phone when he’s dishing out abuse, and the same reason he will physically and verbally abuse a woman but wouldn’t dare do the same to another man. Cowardice. Why is this such a hard concept for you to get your head around ?

Thirteenblackcat · 09/03/2025 10:09

Swiftie1878 · 09/03/2025 08:59

No, she has fortnightly meetings about her daughter’s SEN issues. Academic meetings with teachers are different from SEN meetings with a HOY or SEND co-ordinator.
I agree with others who say go to the parents’ evening and celebrate her success. It’s even more important to do so when a child has SEN.

The answer to the OPs original question is clear. Her ex has never shown an interest so gets no say in matters and should back off.

If you read updates from OP she confirms that she does discuss her daughter’s progress in these meetings. What she says in response to another poster is:

You should go to parents evening.
Why, when thanks to my regular catch ups with her HOY, I know all the information that would be given at the parents evening?

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 09/03/2025 10:00

Whatafustercluck · 09/03/2025 09:46

As most others have said, one of you should go. The main issue here is that he believes it's woman's work to make appointments and attend these. So yanbu to tell him to attend.

OP didn’t ask whether one of them should go though - and she’s explained her reasons for not going, ad nauseam.

The issue is not whether her ex believes it’s woman’s work to go to these events. It’s that he’s a coercive, controlling arsehole whose verbal abuse and physical violence ended their marriage, and yet he still thinks OP should obey him without question while he does as he likes, and resorts to verbal abuse and threats if she defies him. OP didn’t ’tell him to attend’. She told him that if he thought it was so important he should go himself - which he has never done, but which he uses as another form of attempted control.

OP has a child with him. He has access and parental rights. From time to time she has to have contact with him concerning that child. And each time he uses it to try to control. These are the issues.

Whatafustercluck · 09/03/2025 09:46

As most others have said, one of you should go. The main issue here is that he believes it's woman's work to make appointments and attend these. So yanbu to tell him to attend.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 09/03/2025 09:43

llizzie · 08/03/2025 23:42

Why did you think fit to respond to this poster? Did you arrange to take up issues on behalf of the OP?

I responded because they completely failed to grasp the situation, and like many posters, including yourself, tried to turn the OP to suit their own narrative by answering a question OP didn’t ask.

Why did you respond to any of the posts you have ? And why are you trying to police a public forum ? First objecting to bad language, then demanding posters explain why they are responding to others. Where will it end ? You don’t seem to have grasped the concept of MN.

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