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To be irritated about school swimming attire rules 'for girls'?

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BeFairSloth · 04/03/2025 21:04

DD (10yo) does swimming lessons at school. The rules are that girls must wear a one piece swimming costume and we have of course adhered to the rules and purchased one specifically for these lessons.

DD is starting to get to the age where she's a bit more self-conscious of her own body and at home, prefers a tankini which has short-like bottoms and a full length tight (i.e. not flapping about everywhere) top. We encourage body confidence where we can, but I also want her to feel comfortable and confident in what she wears. I therefore asked whether her preferred tankini would be acceptable for lessons and was told no, girls must wear a one-piece.

On the other hand the boys all wear swim shorts and a few of them wear swim shorts with swim tops - the UV type ones.

I assume they're worried about a 'slippery slope' or girls starting to wear bikinis if they allow a full coverage tankini, but what is offensive about a girl's belly button, when most of the boys have their belly buttons out and some of them are even wearing two pieces?

I realise this is a small problem in the grand scheme of things, but it has left me (quietly, in my own home) quite irritated at the double standards. AIBU?

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brunettemic · 05/03/2025 21:12

OrangeYaGlad · 05/03/2025 14:20

It's not odd. Pool has rules, school has stricter rules, it's very simple

Edited

It’s when both sets of rules are the pool rules…as I said. The rules are set by the pool in both instances.

Ohapal · 05/03/2025 15:43

I don’t think it’s double standards really. Girls grow breasts. Boys don’t. So it isn’t a double standard.

I imagine they want zero risk of a tankini top riding up or being pulled up. Don’t think this doesn’t happen - I have a friend whose dd was touched on the breasts by a boy in a swimming lesson.

Your concerns about the lower part of the costume are easily addressed by buying a costume with short legs on it.

Ceramiq · 05/03/2025 15:06

This is honestly not worth getting in a fuss about. Girls have worn one piece costumes for school swimming forever and thank goodness.

chocolatemademefat · 05/03/2025 14:46

Heaven forbid the school should be allowed to have rules. I’m sure your daughter can - like everyone else suck it up. Or is it a you problem because you think you should be making the rules?

Grammarnut · 05/03/2025 14:40

I would look for one piece swimming suits with legs, i.e. look like shorts. The school probably wants to avoid arguments about bikinis in swimming lessons.

OrangeYaGlad · 05/03/2025 14:20

brunettemic · 05/03/2025 13:19

I just find it odd that, in the case of my DD, she can have two sets of swimming lessons at the same pool and that same pool has different rules for those lessons 😂

It's not odd. Pool has rules, school has stricter rules, it's very simple

brunettemic · 05/03/2025 13:19

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 05/03/2025 12:42

Normally is a pool rule(or that has been the case in all the schools I worked in). Same with swimming hats.

I just find it odd that, in the case of my DD, she can have two sets of swimming lessons at the same pool and that same pool has different rules for those lessons 😂

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 05/03/2025 12:42

brunettemic · 05/03/2025 11:20

Is it a school rule or the pool rule? The pool my DD does her usual swimming lessons in is the same one she did school lessons in but bizarrely the pool has far stricter rules when it’s school lessons and I think a one piece is part of those rules.

Normally is a pool rule(or that has been the case in all the schools I worked in). Same with swimming hats.

User415373 · 05/03/2025 12:15

CheesePlantBoxes · 05/03/2025 08:32

Book an appointment at the school and take notes. State the facts:

It's not a swimming pool rule so it's a school rule.

Can the school explain why the rule is in place, because you will be looking to engage a lawyer because you think it's discrimination because she wants to wear a two-piece, same as the boys, and you don't understand why the school wont allow that therefore you'd like the full facts before you proceed.

Then stay as quiet as you can, don't challenge, and ask follow up questions to clarify whilst making notes. I think they'll back down once they realise the reasoning doesn't stand up and that they may have to defend it publicly.

This is such an aggressive reaction, the OP hasn't even clarified who told her the 'rule' and sounds like she hasn't had a chat with the teacher about it?
I don't think the OP needs to threaten to engage a lawyer quite yet.
If the child asked her teacher if she could wear a tankini and was told no, the teacher is almost certainly thinks it's the type of tankini we all are familiar with.
As always, a bit more communication required. Parents get so defensive and jump to threats so readily before knowing the full story.

brunettemic · 05/03/2025 11:20

Is it a school rule or the pool rule? The pool my DD does her usual swimming lessons in is the same one she did school lessons in but bizarrely the pool has far stricter rules when it’s school lessons and I think a one piece is part of those rules.

Mielikki · 05/03/2025 11:16

rosemarble · 05/03/2025 09:55

Trunks tend to be form fitting, whereas swim shorts tend to be looser and flap around more.

There are two different kind of swim shorts/trunks:

  • baggies - which are not suitable for actually swimming in (very draggy and clingy)
  • jammers - long skintight shorts which all competitive (male) swimmer wear, they are the male equivalent of kneeskins.
Favouritefruits · 05/03/2025 09:58

When my eldest took school swimming lessons both sexes had to wear rash vests so you could wear a bikini or one piece but a rash vest would be worn over the top.

rosemarble · 05/03/2025 09:55

MissDoubleU · 05/03/2025 09:35

Is there a difference..? I just googled trunks and they are… all swim shorts. They aren’t mandating speedos, just saying they have to be proper swim attire, as opposed to a pair of regular shorts?

Trunks tend to be form fitting, whereas swim shorts tend to be looser and flap around more.

MissDoubleU · 05/03/2025 09:35

viques · 05/03/2025 09:05

Surprised the pool allows the boys to wear swim shorts. Ours said boys had to wear swimming trunks not shorts and were very strict about it.

Is there a difference..? I just googled trunks and they are… all swim shorts. They aren’t mandating speedos, just saying they have to be proper swim attire, as opposed to a pair of regular shorts?

MissDoubleU · 05/03/2025 09:32

Woukd She be comfortable in the boys attire? Surely the school can’t allows swim shorts and swim Tshirt? Or a combination perhaps. Well covering swimsuit with added swim shorts or swim tshirt?

onwardsup4 · 05/03/2025 09:31

Can't you get one piece shorts ones ?

CheesePlantBoxes · 05/03/2025 09:15

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 05/03/2025 08:51

I reckon she can wear the same as the boys if she wants. Shorts and rash vest. Tankinis aren’t allowed which is what the mum wants her DD to wear.

But the boys don't set the standards. The boys could wear tankinis too. The overarching feature is that both are two piece swimwear.

Hoppinggreen · 05/03/2025 09:13

If there is no gap then let her wear it, unlikely anyone will notice or care.
The rules are to prevent bikini wearing

MightyGoldBear · 05/03/2025 09:09

My 10 year old is doing swimming currently and we have lots of chats about how others or himself may not feel comfortable and to be really understanding of that.

Not a single girl in his class wants to wear a bikini they all want to cover up more. Some have started their period some have obvious breasts starting to grow. They just want to be comfortable. I absolutely agree school need to change up their rules. It doesn't mean they have to say any swimwear at all. But I see so many parents and children having anxiety over well the school have said this one set rule so we have to follow it to the letter. When school could absolutely add on to any information they send home we are very happy to discuss any needed alternative wear for comfort. Or swimwear that is practical and covers the body for comfort e.g no small bikinis. Of which no 10 year old girls I know want to wear anyway.

There is so much more freedom in life and the workplace than there is in school I find it bizarre. I even think school shoes have become outdated and a unnecessary expense for parents. Let them all go in trainers.

viques · 05/03/2025 09:05

Surprised the pool allows the boys to wear swim shorts. Ours said boys had to wear swimming trunks not shorts and were very strict about it.

MumWifeOther · 05/03/2025 08:54

BeFairSloth · 04/03/2025 21:04

DD (10yo) does swimming lessons at school. The rules are that girls must wear a one piece swimming costume and we have of course adhered to the rules and purchased one specifically for these lessons.

DD is starting to get to the age where she's a bit more self-conscious of her own body and at home, prefers a tankini which has short-like bottoms and a full length tight (i.e. not flapping about everywhere) top. We encourage body confidence where we can, but I also want her to feel comfortable and confident in what she wears. I therefore asked whether her preferred tankini would be acceptable for lessons and was told no, girls must wear a one-piece.

On the other hand the boys all wear swim shorts and a few of them wear swim shorts with swim tops - the UV type ones.

I assume they're worried about a 'slippery slope' or girls starting to wear bikinis if they allow a full coverage tankini, but what is offensive about a girl's belly button, when most of the boys have their belly buttons out and some of them are even wearing two pieces?

I realise this is a small problem in the grand scheme of things, but it has left me (quietly, in my own home) quite irritated at the double standards. AIBU?

Can she put the shorts from the tankini set on top of the costume?

Itisbetter · 05/03/2025 08:53

I think you are creating a problem where there isn’t one. Your daughter can wear a one piece with our without leg coverage. Two pieces are not school uniform.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 05/03/2025 08:51

CheesePlantBoxes · 05/03/2025 08:32

Book an appointment at the school and take notes. State the facts:

It's not a swimming pool rule so it's a school rule.

Can the school explain why the rule is in place, because you will be looking to engage a lawyer because you think it's discrimination because she wants to wear a two-piece, same as the boys, and you don't understand why the school wont allow that therefore you'd like the full facts before you proceed.

Then stay as quiet as you can, don't challenge, and ask follow up questions to clarify whilst making notes. I think they'll back down once they realise the reasoning doesn't stand up and that they may have to defend it publicly.

I reckon she can wear the same as the boys if she wants. Shorts and rash vest. Tankinis aren’t allowed which is what the mum wants her DD to wear.

User415373 · 05/03/2025 08:49

Who did you ask? Your daughter or the school?
I wouldn't even use the phrase 'tankini' if talking to the school about it, say shorts and swim t-shirt or whatever and have a pic (off a shopping website) to show what you mean.
I think you'd be fine to just send it in but if you're worried then of course chat to the teacher first.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 05/03/2025 08:48

minnienono · 04/03/2025 22:07

If she wants to wear shorts and rash vest then they will let her, it's that not all tankinis meet in the middle

This was my thought.