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Ex’s wife has died

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CrispyDosa · 04/03/2025 16:52

Just that my ex’s wife died very suddenly yesterday.

I don’t know what to think or do.

Husband was constantly unfaithful but she was not the other woman but she made my daughter’s relationship with her father very difficult. Obviously he was culpable too.

My ex in-laws found her very intrusive.

I want to drive to the house and see him but don’t know how I will be greeted. I don’t care for myself but wouldn’t want to upset him or her kids.

it obviously isn’t about me or even my daughter but I am completely numb and don’t know what to do.

What would you do?

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Zatapec · 15/03/2025 18:07

Be careful, think before you do anything, personal I would send a message or card, and leave it at that .

CrispyDosa · 10/03/2025 13:32

LionME

The girl will return with her family to The States and the boy will stay with Ex certainly through ‘A’ Levels .

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LionME · 10/03/2025 10:44

I really feel for those two teenagers.
Loosing your mum is hard enough. Not having a father around or even that much family (if the grandmother is in the USA) is not going to make it easier for them.

So the plan is for your ex to raise his stepchildren then?

There will be adjustments to do. But maybe they’ll find a way to connect/see each other that will work for everyone.

CrispyDosa · 10/03/2025 09:57

The parentage of the children was never discussed. Ex’s mother was always rebuffed when she asked. My daughter asked her daughter about their dad and the response was that her Mom was her only parent.

It now appears that the girl was doner conceived but the boy has a father and they were in touch by actual letter i.e. actual post.

The boy who is 15, is desperate to stay in London and finish exams and go to university here but the plan was always Masters over there. I also get a feeling that he likes my ex and I do know that they play squash together and watch cricket. He was always less problematic to my daughter in terms of his personality.

Within two days of the death the brother and cousin who lives in London, wanted to talk to my ex about practicalities etc but he still doesn’t have the head space.

I am sure the posters who think I wanted to use this tragedy have a quick shag or to get back with my ex, who was a serial cheat, albeit it a very generous one won’t believe me but both my daughter and I have said we genuinely hope her children can go on and have happy lives after the devastation of losing their mother.

I do also think it will also be a turning point for my daughter’s relationship with her father.

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Gloriia · 09/03/2025 16:49

Where's the stepdc's df? I see that the dd wants to go to the US with dgm but how sad there is only a stepdad as the other option, surely they've got other family here?

catlover123456789 · 09/03/2025 15:49

I do hope your dd can begin to repair the relationship with her dad.

LBFseBrom · 09/03/2025 15:35

Thanks for the update, CrispyDosa.

I hope the relationship improves between your daughter and her dad, it sounds promising.

Yes it was a terrible tragedy, especially for the woman's children.

CrispyDosa · 09/03/2025 15:06

I am still here but kind of gave up posting. Ex came to see me on Friday morning. Strangely enough we were both able to resist jumping each other’s bones.

He absolutely wouldn’t have minded me going round as he does know me unlike most of mumsnet who thought I wanted to gloat and be a ‘grief snatcher’.

It is an absolute tragedy that she has died, she was 54 with two teenagers. She didn’t so much stop my daughter seeing her father but she couldn’t see him alone. She tried to impose on my ex in-laws. She was very pushy.

My daughter did not wish to have a relationship with her children and the girl was often rude to my daughter.

Mumsnet will attack me again and suggest I am making it all about me but I have thought a lot over the week about how it was now going to be between DD and her father as he would obviously have his step kids all the time.

However, the girl wants to go back to The States with her grandmother but the older boy wants to stay in London but apparently this will be reviewed in 18 months. The boy was always less of an issue with DD. I hope it will be a new beginning for their relationship.

There won’t be a funeraL.

Ex offered to collect DD from an afterschool club on Tuesday and have a pizza and she seems content enough.

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LBFseBrom · 08/03/2025 20:48

The op hasn't posted since 4th March and had already decided she wasn't going to get involved. It was just her first reaction, no doubt she regrets posting it :-). She has let it go, so must we.

Shatandfattered · 08/03/2025 20:31

Sorry but i feel like this is overstepping regardless of dynamics, i certainly would be turning in my grave at my partners ex consoling him.

FluffyDashhound · 08/03/2025 20:25

I'd not be bothered tbh why would I. Reading what you have said I think you care to much and if you get involved whilst he is grieving all that's going to happen is you end up in bed together. Your dd didn't care she doesnr see her dad much she didn't like his partner he's an ex I don't see why you need to do anything.

Sooose · 08/03/2025 19:31

I don't see how reaching out can do any harm. Feeling numb and shock is completely normal. Just because he is your ex doesn't mean there are zero feelings. I imagine the feelings are just more complicated. And if you share a daughter with your ex, then she will be feeling the loss too. I would say trust your instincts here and be ready to react when you see how your ex is doing. You sound like a kind and empathetic person.

RareTraybake · 08/03/2025 19:17

Just stay right out of it. No good deed go's unpunished. They will take their grief out on you. You will not be wanted there. You will probably fond he will come back and talk to you in time, they usually go back to the person who knew them best. Lovex

MsDitsy · 06/03/2025 17:47

Like some others, i'm confused as to why you want to physically go round to his house. Were you a visitor previously, either regularly or rarely, did you actually go indoorsor just drop your daughter off outside? If his cousin is with him and his wife's children, I'm not sure what extra you will add and I definitely think his step children might not welcome your presence. I know you keep saying you have no interest in getting back together but it may appear that way if you turn up at his door. Your idea of a sympathy is ample.

CMTwb1941 · 06/03/2025 13:45

I’d be even wary if I did get an invite .

LBFseBrom · 06/03/2025 13:44

The op has said she is not going to go to her ex's house, she just considered it for a brief time is all but decided against it. She is going to send a card with a message, probably already has. It's dealt.

LighterSpring25 · 06/03/2025 11:59

@madmeg1952 I've read your post and absolutely still think that OP should not go to his house without an invite. From experience after I lost a sibling, 2nd cousins and ex's were not welcome to pop in when I was in shock.

Sunpeace · 06/03/2025 11:47

madmeg1952 · 06/03/2025 10:58

Maybe I'm out of touch with modern protocol but you all seem very quick to criticise a woman for having some emotion for her ex in his sad loss. Okay, it might be "about her" but why not? Aren't we all human beings with human feelings - and she has said she still has feelings for him. Why would he be angry/annoyed/suspicious if she turned up and offered some help to someone she once knew very well? He sounds as if he's a man who doesn't do well with relationships (even his DD and his DM) so a friendly face might be just what he needs.

Most of you seem to be of the opinion that you just write off your past relationships - and sometimes far too easily in my mind. MN is full of people quick to tell a poster to "leave him" if things aren't perfect. In my day you rectified problems, or at least worked round them. Still do.

If the deceased was as unpleasant as it seems, and the ex-H seemingly a total prat, he might be pretty short of people who actually care about him right now.

Over the years I've offered help to many bereaved/sick/lonely people (no I'm not a saint, nor do I stick my nose in) - mostly practical stuff - and it's easy to stop if you are intruding so I back off.

I've also attended the funerals of people from my past and didn't ask anyone's permission - and found that loads of others from the same era did the same. The deceased's family were always pleased.

Whilst I agree that the OP appears to be making it all about her, she has needs as well and her support might be most appreciated. She won't find out till she tries. But in today's modern world I'd probably send a text/email or phone rather than turn up unannounced - though she "risks" the ex just saying he is fine - and he might not be.

I see that she is coming round to toning it down as result of your comments, and as I said, maybe I am just old fashioned.

I'll probably get slated for my opinions!

I don't think modern protocol is the issue here I'm afraid. I'm in my late 60's and find the idea of turning up or getting involved at all unless invited absolutely bizarre given the situation. Back in the day the most it would warrant would be a sympathy card.

ALovelyShadeofMauve · 06/03/2025 11:36

Maybe I'm out of touch with modern protocol but you all seem very quick to criticise a woman for having some emotion for her ex in his sad loss. Okay, it might be "about her" but why not? Aren't we all human beings with human feelings - and she has said she still has feelings for him.

I don’t think anyone is criticising the OP for feeling sympathy. It’s the idea that her instinct is to turn up right in the middle of it all; the fact that she’s saying she feels “completely numb”, despite no real connection with this woman. THAT is what makes it “about her”.

Whilst I agree that the OP appears to be making it all about her, she has needs as well

”Needs”? Who has needs when it comes to the death of an ex’s new spouse? What could she possibly need from this?

Sumthingsweet · 06/03/2025 11:16

Your Ex wife ? I don’t understand why you want to go down there he’s your ex ?

madmeg1952 · 06/03/2025 10:58

Maybe I'm out of touch with modern protocol but you all seem very quick to criticise a woman for having some emotion for her ex in his sad loss. Okay, it might be "about her" but why not? Aren't we all human beings with human feelings - and she has said she still has feelings for him. Why would he be angry/annoyed/suspicious if she turned up and offered some help to someone she once knew very well? He sounds as if he's a man who doesn't do well with relationships (even his DD and his DM) so a friendly face might be just what he needs.

Most of you seem to be of the opinion that you just write off your past relationships - and sometimes far too easily in my mind. MN is full of people quick to tell a poster to "leave him" if things aren't perfect. In my day you rectified problems, or at least worked round them. Still do.

If the deceased was as unpleasant as it seems, and the ex-H seemingly a total prat, he might be pretty short of people who actually care about him right now.

Over the years I've offered help to many bereaved/sick/lonely people (no I'm not a saint, nor do I stick my nose in) - mostly practical stuff - and it's easy to stop if you are intruding so I back off.

I've also attended the funerals of people from my past and didn't ask anyone's permission - and found that loads of others from the same era did the same. The deceased's family were always pleased.

Whilst I agree that the OP appears to be making it all about her, she has needs as well and her support might be most appreciated. She won't find out till she tries. But in today's modern world I'd probably send a text/email or phone rather than turn up unannounced - though she "risks" the ex just saying he is fine - and he might not be.

I see that she is coming round to toning it down as result of your comments, and as I said, maybe I am just old fashioned.

I'll probably get slated for my opinions!

Mervyco · 06/03/2025 09:53

Keep far away. She was neither family, or friend. She interfered with your life, by her selfish reaction to your daugher. If she wanted you to be part of her scene she would have made you part. Your ex in laws were wary of her, so the red flags are flying everywhere.
You seem to have some form of pity for your ex as in EX, husband. It is obviously not recipricated and you will not be wanted unless he thinks you are gagging to take him back.
Leave well alone and concentrate on your daughter: that is going to be time well spent. These feelings are a waste of your time

zingally · 06/03/2025 09:04

Do nothing. Say nothing.

Presumably this man is your ex DH for a reason?

Do you realise how weird it would sound from your ex's perspective? "My wife has been dead only a few hours, and already my ex wife is knocking on the door." It sounds bonkers, because it is.
And do you have a new partner? How might they feel to see you immediately head off to your ex's house once the other woman is out of the way? Again, bonkers.

You can just about get away with a card, or a text, "Sorry to hear about your loss." But any more than that would be absurd.

Missj25 · 06/03/2025 08:32

I wouldn’t go ..
just message him to say ..
You are at other end of phone if he needs anything …

Lovehascomeandgone · 06/03/2025 07:36

A simple text of condolence and a card to the family expressing sympathy is appropriate at this stage as you have indicated OP.