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Is war likely?

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user1492538376 · 04/03/2025 16:28

In the UK in the next few years given world events?

What do people think will happen?

My personal view is that it is likely though of course not inevitable - but there is a path now for Europe to step up - but with the mad orange man who knows what will happen.

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Bogginsthe3rd · 04/03/2025 23:13

BurgundyZero · 04/03/2025 23:10

Are you so ignorant that you don't understand what happens to elections in time of war?

Aye be gone with ya. Take your xenophobic views elsewhere.

BurgundyZero · 04/03/2025 23:10

Are you so ignorant that you don't understand what happens to elections in time of war?

MustBeGinOclock · 04/03/2025 23:05

Nope

Bogginsthe3rd · 04/03/2025 23:04

BurgundyZero · 04/03/2025 22:57

I would never vote Reform. I do live in ganglands and I am quite keen to have left this place well before the next election-- if there is one.

Ah you must be a kent variant? When you say "if there is one" ominously, what Debbie downer dystopia are you suggesting ? Or are you considering the possibility of a reinstatement of monarchial rule by Charles III (and the ghost of Diana?)

Zonder · 04/03/2025 23:00

ShutUpForTheLoveOfGod · 04/03/2025 21:33

The US are trying to stop the bloody war fgs.

Are they? What makes you think that? They don't seem to be doing a very good job of it if so.

BurgundyZero · 04/03/2025 23:00

Who wants to cosplay war? This specimen.

Is war likely?
Sunnierclime · 04/03/2025 22:57

Bogginsthe3rd · 04/03/2025 22:46

With Trump I think probably war is less likely because

  • Trump has a huge ego and wants to be lauded with ending the Ukraine war
  • Zelensky, after his planned humiliation by Trump and Vance and after US withdrawal of military support now has no option but beg to give away Ukraine's minerals in exchange for a peace treaty.
  • If USA have control of minerals they have a presence in Ukraine that Russia wouldn't attack.
  • The price for peace will be Russia keeping all territory taken so far and maybe even more and Zelensky resigning.

BUT

In the medium term Russia will know USA is no longer Europe's back up and may not do anything in acceptance with NATO treaty (ie attack one NATO country is am attack on all), so may well feel like they can take more Baltic states. This would possibly mean European reaction and war between Europe and Russia. So v unstable situation. Without USA military backstop it's a brave new world.

Edited

Yes, and rather concerning that it’s apparently going to take Europe about 10 years to re-arm. Putin is 73, I can’t see him hanging around, he’s going to want to make his move sooner than then.

BIossomtoes · 04/03/2025 22:57

terracottatrees · 04/03/2025 22:18

Of course there won't be WW3. No one can afford it, and there's the worlds so hung up human rights where people would simply refuse to fight. So no, of course there won't be.

Nobody could afford WWll. It didn’t prevent it. And no, people wouldn’t refuse to fight, they wouldn’t get any choice.

BurgundyZero · 04/03/2025 22:57

Bogginsthe3rd · 04/03/2025 22:50

Ok you Reform weirdo. Isn't there a Daily Mail headline that needs a bit of hate speech by you in the comments?

I would never vote Reform. I do live in ganglands and I am quite keen to have left this place well before the next election-- if there is one.

Sunnierclime · 04/03/2025 22:52

In the next days/weeks? I don’t think so.

Months / year? Probably not.

In the next 5 years ….. I reckon there will be a war of sorts, possibly cyber / trade based rather than military, but who knows.

I do think that with climate change, mass migration, resource shortages etc we are heading for WW3 within the century. I think the current culture wars, nationalism and scuffle for land and resources is just the beginning.

Bogginsthe3rd · 04/03/2025 22:50

BurgundyZero · 04/03/2025 22:44

A lot of you seem to go around in your little bubble and don't see the large urban areas given over to gang rule, the enclaves where nary a word of English is heard, the huge strife between immigrant populations importing their vendettas.

The war is starting and it won't be an attack from outside.

Edited

Ok you Reform weirdo. Isn't there a Daily Mail headline that needs a bit of hate speech by you in the comments?

Bogginsthe3rd · 04/03/2025 22:46

With Trump I think probably war is less likely because

  • Trump has a huge ego and wants to be lauded with ending the Ukraine war
  • Zelensky, after his planned humiliation by Trump and Vance and after US withdrawal of military support now has no option but beg to give away Ukraine's minerals in exchange for a peace treaty.
  • If USA have control of minerals they have a presence in Ukraine that Russia wouldn't attack.
  • The price for peace will be Russia keeping all territory taken so far and maybe even more and Zelensky resigning.

BUT

In the medium term Russia will know USA is no longer Europe's back up and may not do anything in acceptance with NATO treaty (ie attack one NATO country is am attack on all), so may well feel like they can take more Baltic states. This would possibly mean European reaction and war between Europe and Russia. So v unstable situation. Without USA military backstop it's a brave new world.

BurgundyZero · 04/03/2025 22:44

A lot of you seem to go around in your little bubble and don't see the large urban areas given over to gang rule, the enclaves where nary a word of English is heard, the huge strife between immigrant populations importing their vendettas.

The war is starting and it won't be an attack from outside.

noblegiraffe · 04/03/2025 22:43

Gingenatalie · 04/03/2025 22:40

For the last 5 years.

You can't think of anything that has happened in the last 6 weeks that would make an invasion of Taiwan more likely? Of the US going back on its obligations to protect Taiwan?

BeardofHagrid · 04/03/2025 22:41

I’d go to war for Zelenskyy 🇺🇦🥰

Proudest moment was when he called JD Vance “suka/bitch” in the Oval Office of all places. He’s so sassy. Love him.

Gingenatalie · 04/03/2025 22:40

noblegiraffe · 04/03/2025 22:17

You haven't noticed that China is gearing up to invade Taiwan?

For the last 5 years.

Gingenatalie · 04/03/2025 22:39

There were more wars under Biden than Trump so no. As much as people seem to be frothing for it.

user1492538376 · 04/03/2025 22:34

FeatherFace · 04/03/2025 22:24

FFS

Please can MNHQ arrange a war board or something? These threads are getting out of hand now

Its just a discussion. If you dont like the threads just dont read them? Based on the responses people want to talk about this.

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lunalemer · 04/03/2025 22:27

Thecatatemyplants · 04/03/2025 21:37

No.

Good grief, just turn off the news for a few days. The world will keep turning. The fear mongering is rife on ol' Mumsnet tonight.

For those of you with genuine anxiety, so much so that it's keeping you up at night, please take a deep breath and relax. I worried my way through the 80s about nuclear war (as furiously hinted at by MSM at the time), and it never happened. Life is too short to waste your time worrying about something you have no control over.

Agreed. My friend is so worried about terrorism that she won’t go to London (her sister lives there) and wouldn’t come with me to a concert in Manchester. She asked why am I so ok with it.

Because I’m just living my life, I was evacuated from my home because of a bomb scare last year. Thankfully it was a false alarm but it just goes to show that I could have sat inside my house worrying about the very thing that could have killed me by being there.

Life is too short. I’m not worrying about WW3.

Mercurial123 · 04/03/2025 22:26

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FeatherFace · 04/03/2025 22:24

FFS

Please can MNHQ arrange a war board or something? These threads are getting out of hand now

MeinKraft · 04/03/2025 22:21

There’s a lot of willy waving at the moment, but hopefully things will settle down quickly. Trump is known for changing his mind on a whim so you never know what the next day will bring.

pizzaHeart · 04/03/2025 22:20

ShutUpForTheLoveOfGod · 04/03/2025 21:33

The US are trying to stop the bloody war fgs.

Are you sure ? And which one ?

terracottatrees · 04/03/2025 22:18

Of course there won't be WW3. No one can afford it, and there's the worlds so hung up human rights where people would simply refuse to fight. So no, of course there won't be.

Allihavetodoisdream · 04/03/2025 22:17

Yes, but at least being right in the middle we will go quickly