Is war likely?

The mad orange man is very anti-war thank goodness.

Oh do wake up. Hitler had family and friends too but still started a war. Do you think Putin gives a shit about his family, his bloodline? If he did he would have put an end to this madness long before now. His family will always be remembered as being associated with one of the most evil men in history. Who wants to be associated with that? They can change identities with new names etc but they can’t change their bloodline.

With all due respect, both Putin and Trump are insane you can’t possibly know if they have a close relationship.

Remember to stock pile loo roll flour and pasta

Very eloquent post- thank you.

With all due respect they don’t have close relationships and even if they did I think with the person he is reported to be and his previous actions and own statements - he would probably consider the loss a small price to pay if he could go down in history as the modern Russian leader who reunited and expanded the Soviet Union. That’s the dream and he’s doing his damndest to make it a reality with whatever time he has left.

Trump and gang are trying to appease Putin. He wants the war stopped more than anyone - Russia has suffered massive losses. The ending of the war wouldn’t involve him packing his troops off home - it would be Ukraine (and the rest oft world) accepting the loss of Uktanian territory (within their country!) and possibly even more. Putin has proved if you give an inch then he’ll take a mile. It won’t stop until he has taken the whole country and then what? Who’s next?

Pasta has been difficult to get hold of recently 😉

We are in a kind of war already with trade tariffs and cyber attacks. I think this level of attack will continue to rumble on and will affect many economies, including ours.
There will not be war on the ground in the UK though.

WhateverWillBeWillBloodyWellBe · Today 00:07

Putin is no spring chicken and I think he will give it his best shot before he kicks the bucket. And Trump is stupid enough to encourage him, if not join

Oh stop it. He has daughters and grandchildren. You think he wants to kill them too?

Stop with the scaremongering,

Putin is no spring chicken and I think he will give it his best shot before he kicks the bucket. And Trump is stupid enough to encourage him, if not join him.

Unlikely.

My husband lived through the Suez crisis. I grew up with threats of nuclear war on the TV every Sunday morning on the then equivalent of LK on Sunday. (And adverts in very serious voices telling us to paint our windows white and line the airing cupboard with mattresses.)

Didn't happen then, don’t think it will happen now.

Seriously mate, stop worrying about it. Spring has sprung, the sun is shining, the crocuses are coming up. Get out and enjoy them and FFS stop following the (desperate to fill 24 hour) news.

If it is going to happen there’s sweet FA that any of us minions can do about it anyway, short of putting our head between our knees and kissing our arses goodbye.

Get on with your life. You’re more likely than at any other time in history to celebrate your 100th.

Son of a toolmaker! He's on mumsnet.

@user1492538376 very likely now that even nuttier nutters have been voted into power.

Edited for typo

Is that you Keir?

War is never an inevitability but neither can it be dismissed. The tides are shifting, alliances are fraying, and the UK's defense posture is far from certain. If we aren't vigilant, we risk being swept up in events we could have controlled. It's time for leadership that sees the storm coming and acts before it breaks

You forgot to call us all 'sheeple' and end your post with 'FACT'. Very remiss, do make sure St. Tommy doesn't find out.

😂😂😂 what a desperate agenda push

I think they'll be happy enough to carve it up between them and the US. What do you think Europe can do about it. First you need to wean yourselves off Russian fossil fuels and somehow replace all your military kit you sent to Ukraine to be blown up by Russia.

Right 😐

Why do you think Russia want to take over Europe rather than stop NATO expansion?

Why do you think Russia will be happy with the bits of Ukraine it gets to keep and not the whole of Ukraine that it actually wants?

Why do you think Russia want to take over Europe rather than stop NATO expansion? And how exactly do you think Europe would stop them without the US? Angry tweets and cosplaying photo ops do not magically create a powerful military.

Likely outcome is that Russia will get to keep the parts of Ukraine they've already got. And then hopefully NATO (assuming it exists) will stops pushing up against Russia's borders. And the EU can merrily continue to spend billions on a Russian fossil fuels.

Doing a better job than Europe have done. The war in Ukraine has been going on for three years. Europe have spent that time just making sympathetic noises, and thrown money and weapons at the situation. And now Trump has started to try and diffuse the situation, albeit not very well, Europe suddenly start trying to put plans in place to try and resolve. Where have they been the last three years? Trump may not be succeeding in his clumsy attempts, but at least it’s given Europe a kick up their arses.

Absolutely agree with this. This country is full of angry, disenchanted people. COL, collapse of infrastructure. We’re teetering on a precipice, and it won’t take much to set things off.

More likely civil war within the UK than a world war. There’s a palpable unrest and frustration atm in this country, like a bubbling cauldron. If the Government don’t start to get a grip, things will kick off within the next couple of years. That’s what I worry about.