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I think SS is hurting my baby

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GreenPinkLilac · 04/03/2025 14:05

I have an SS, 6, two older SC and a baby who is nearly 1. When my baby was about three months old I saw SS squeezing her legs too hard. She was in a bouncy chair in the kitchen whilst I cooked and he was crouched in front of her and didn’t know I was watching. He did it twice, it was hard enough to leave bruises and he admitted it when I stopped him. Obviously I was very angry and upset but didn’t get cross with him, talked it through and watched him like a hawk for months afterwards. His dad was furious too.

Last weekend SC were here and the baby now has bruises all over her legs which look a lot like finger marks. Nursery have written up an incident report. I am as sure as it’s possible to be that it wouldn’t be the older SC, and I don’t see how the marks could have been made other than by squeezing.

I’ve known SS since he was a toddler and he’s very attached to me so it makes sense that he would be jealous because the baby takes up my time, but I cannot have this happen again. He is a high needs, high energy child who gets more 1:1 attention than anyone else when he’s in our house, but can never get enough attention.

Please talk me through an appropriate approach because I am beyond furious right now.

OP posts:
saveforthat · 04/03/2025 15:46

GreenPinkLilac · 04/03/2025 15:37

This is what we have done. For months he’s been playing nicely with her under close supervision and being praised for it. He’s been referring to himself as “the best big brother” and cooing over her outfits and reading to her and trying to teach her tricks and looking to me for affirmation as he does it. Which is why it makes me feel so sick that he’s done it again.

I’m aware I can’t keep eyes on her constantly and I can’t stop him hurting her if he wants to. He will be able to evade cameras if he knows about them. And putting up secret cameras and waiting for him to hurt her is just a horrible thought.

Then make sure he doesn't know where the camera is. I think the pp idea of ring camera, stand outside the door and rush in if it looks like anything untoward is going on.

WhatAliceSaid · 04/03/2025 15:45

But he could be her child and most decent step parents try and treat SC as their own. So I ask again, if it was your 6 year old hurting your baby, what would you do?

What is the point of this whataboutery?

The op wants a solution to a real life situation, not made up nonsense.

GreenPinkLilac · 04/03/2025 15:45

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 04/03/2025 15:38

It must be very difficult, OP. I do understand that you want to protect your baby but that said, your step-son is also yours and you need to look out for him too.

Can I ask you this? If your step-son were your biological child and everything else was the same. How would you handle this? What would you do as his mother? I think that is what you need to do - with his Dad's agreement - both of your as parents of this little boy because that is what you also are.

You say that his Mum is permissive and that your relationship isn't the best but your husband will have to do what's needed to help his young son come to safe terms with new, younger siblings and do that soon.

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From Hankunamatata, this did make me smile... My own husband tried to put his baby sibling in the bin back in the day.

Sibling rivalry is like nothing else.

Honestly I don’t think that advice applies because I think a lot of his troubles stem from the fact that he has had to context switch frequently from a very young age. He has our house, his mum’s house, his maternal grandparents’, his mum’s boyfriend’s parents, frequent babysitters and all have different expectations and standards.

He has a lot of ADHD traits and I am worried for his future. He’s a very clever boy but finds it incredibly hard to listen to directions or to focus. I do think having a set routine would benefit him considerably to settle down but it’s just not going to happen.

OP posts:
Outchy · 04/03/2025 15:43

Why is a 6 year old left unsupervised with a baby. Sorry but this is on the adults in charge.

Maximusdecimus · 04/03/2025 15:42

I would put the baby in a play pen so if he wanted to hurt her he would have to physically go in to pull her out.

I would also tell him you have cameras in the house as the baby keeps hurting herself and you are trying to work out why and does he know anything about it. You will know by looking at face whether he is lying or not.

saveforthat · 04/03/2025 15:41

Epilepsystruggle · 04/03/2025 15:37

Buts it's not her child is it? So my advice is tailored to her situation. Not a hypothetical situation that isn't hers.

But he could be her child and most decent step parents try and treat SC as their own. So I ask again, if it was your 6 year old hurting your baby, what would you do?

WhatAliceSaid · 04/03/2025 15:41

There’s nothing wrong with hidden cameras. You need to know whether he is trying to hurt her or not. He might not have hurt her.

Supervising him doesn’t address the underlying issues.

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 04/03/2025 15:40

Iamallowedtodisagreewithyou · 04/03/2025 14:07

He needs to never be alone with the baby and you need to watch him like a hawk.

This.

you also need a “no touching” rule for him and a consequence every time he breaks that rule irrespective of whether it’s a gentle touch or not. he needs no learn no contact for now.

You need 2 parents in the room in general.
if one of you needs to leave baby goes with them (eg to toilet). If you for SOME reason are left alone with all of them you need to be physically holding the baby.

At not-yet-3 my dd knows pushing and hitting baby is wrong / naughty. At 6 he knows full well this is wrong.

i feel for you as this must be really upsetting but you need to get some very firm, very clear and very consistent rules and boundaries in place now.

i really recommend the “pilot system” essentialLay you or your husband is in charge of the baby at any one time. When you are in charge you literally say “I’m handing the baby over to you now. You are in charge of the baby okay?” And he says “yes” he then is in charge until he or you verbally confirm you are watching the baby again. This stops the we were both in the room but our attention was elsewhere.
if you are with the baby and water gets spilled. He is clearing it up .”- you are with the baby.
if you are solo the bigger kids clear it themselves or you do it in your own time while still focusing on the baby.

the lying don’t waste your time getting into it.
just say these are the new house rules and you can have different rules for each of the kids and even “rules with consequences” for the parents so it seems fair.

eg no shouting for dad. If he shouts he has to play kids game of choice for 15 mins etc

GreenPinkLilac · 04/03/2025 15:38

BigSilly · 04/03/2025 15:30

I don't understand how you know it was "SS?

How do you know he was applying too much pressure when you stopped him holding the baby's leg, presumably there were no bruises at that time

When it happened before there was a red mark immediately, and he admitted it when I said I’d seen him.

OP posts:
GoldDuster · 04/03/2025 15:38

@Epilepsystruggle

Aha. An exorcism. Right you are. Good luck with getting one of those on the NHS.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 04/03/2025 15:38

It must be very difficult, OP. I do understand that you want to protect your baby but that said, your step-son is also yours and you need to look out for him too.

Can I ask you this? If your step-son were your biological child and everything else was the same. How would you handle this? What would you do as his mother? I think that is what you need to do - with his Dad's agreement - both of your as parents of this little boy because that is what you also are.

You say that his Mum is permissive and that your relationship isn't the best but your husband will have to do what's needed to help his young son come to safe terms with new, younger siblings and do that soon.

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From Hankunamatata, this did make me smile... My own husband tried to put his baby sibling in the bin back in the day.

Sibling rivalry is like nothing else.

GreenPinkLilac · 04/03/2025 15:37

Hotflushesandchilblains · 04/03/2025 15:26

Realistically, it is not going to be possible to watch him 100% of the time. Life just doesnt work that way. You and his dad and hopefully his mum need to talk to him in an age appropriate way and tell him this is not ok. I would put up cameras in the house, and monitor. If there is any repeat, he will not be able to be at the house in the same way he is at the moment. You may also want to give him positive attention for helping his sister and making her happy.

This is what we have done. For months he’s been playing nicely with her under close supervision and being praised for it. He’s been referring to himself as “the best big brother” and cooing over her outfits and reading to her and trying to teach her tricks and looking to me for affirmation as he does it. Which is why it makes me feel so sick that he’s done it again.

I’m aware I can’t keep eyes on her constantly and I can’t stop him hurting her if he wants to. He will be able to evade cameras if he knows about them. And putting up secret cameras and waiting for him to hurt her is just a horrible thought.

OP posts:
Tandora · 04/03/2025 15:37

I’m so, so angry with him

you don’t know it’s him.

he is 6.

wizzywig · 04/03/2025 15:37

Does he do the harm whilst she is fast asleep? Is he able to access a play therapist? Somethings going on here

Epilepsystruggle · 04/03/2025 15:37

saveforthat · 04/03/2025 15:33

Oh for God's sake. What if the 6 year old was also yours, where would you send him, for adoption?

Buts it's not her child is it? So my advice is tailored to her situation. Not a hypothetical situation that isn't hers.

PumpkinSoup21 · 04/03/2025 15:36

Does he give very tight hugs? Does he grab other children in play in ways that are too hard? Does he take play fighting too far?
There is such a thing as having a sensory need which involves not feeling physical pressure in the same way as other children. It would go along with a diagnosis of something like autism. It could be that he is experimenting with this (I know it sounds bad) because he genuinely can’t put himself in another kid’s shoes, much less the baby’s. He’s seen adults squeeze a chubby leg or a cheek and is doing the same but much harder because his sense of touch when it comes to pressure isn’t the same.

Its just a thought.

A few other suggestions:

  • talk to his dad about reaching out to his school and start a conversation about his behaviour and needs.
  • provide heavy activities like lifting, trampolining, physical play, stress balls when he is at your house.
  • look at getting a sling/wrap for the baby for short periods so she is off the floor when he is on the floor.
  • look at local charities that offer family support, especially to blended families.
  • involve him in an activity like making footprint paintings with the baby. They can paint each others feet and make a picture together (closely supervised).
Biffbaff · 04/03/2025 15:36

Separate them by making sure your baby is always with you. You can't just banish the stepson. Some of the responses on here are downright cruel. Yes of course you can't have your baby being hurt, so you take care of your baby more closely. Baby-wear them if you're busy. You can't put all the responsibility for this on the child, poor lad.

Epilepsystruggle · 04/03/2025 15:35

GoldDuster · 04/03/2025 15:22

Well that's nice, but what happens when your husband, who is the father of the child and the baby decides he feels the same?

He is family. He is a child. This is his home. These are facts, not opinion.

It's all very well going all Jeremy Kyle and kicking lucifer to the kerb, but this is is home, OP is the adult and this needs dealing with.

Edited

It wouldn't be my problem if my husband or stepchild or whoever else took issue.

Either my baby gets abused and emotionally damaged by my stepchild or my stepchild gets emotionally damaged by not being in my house as a result of his own actions.

Id choose my baby every time. Don't even have to think about it. Stepchilds mum's motherly instincts can protect her own child with therapy or a exorcism or whatever the child needs. Dad is free to agree or leave or see him outside the home

Like I said, my motherly instincts override that of any other child or adult.

I don't care if the person is 6, 16 or 36. You will not harm my child.

BigSilly · 04/03/2025 15:34

BigSilly · 04/03/2025 15:30

I don't understand how you know it was "SS?

How do you know he was applying too much pressure when you stopped him holding the baby's leg, presumably there were no bruises at that time

I think you need to tske that baby to the doctor to msjr sure there is no medical condition. As the baby showed no signs of discomfort. I think you need to be open to the idea that it is something or someone else.

saveforthat · 04/03/2025 15:33

Epilepsystruggle · 04/03/2025 15:17

Yeah I wouldn't be letting Damien step over my threshold again.

Don't give any fucks if my husband or whoever was like 'but he's family, but he's just a child, but he's blah blah blah'

Hell nah. My motherly instinct overrides any of that shit. I'll protect and defend me and mine at the cost of my marriage, money, house, people's feelings and relationships.

Fuck that.

Oh for God's sake. What if the 6 year old was also yours, where would you send him, for adoption?

Onlycoffee · 04/03/2025 15:32

GreenPinkLilac · 04/03/2025 14:27

He will 100% deny it, and even more so if he’s told off. We don’t have them until next week now so any opportunity for immediate consequences has gone.

Relations with his mum aren’t good so if we told her she would unquestionably support him.

Even if he denies it by speaking to him he knows you know.

For the pp saying why didn't the baby cry, have you never noticed a massive bruise on yourself and have no idea how it could happen, no recollection of hurting yourself?

Bruises don't always mean pain.

He could have done it whilst making her laugh or playing with her so she's distracted and doesn't notice the pressure eon her legs.

Op what is happening about him hurting his older siblings?

BigSilly · 04/03/2025 15:30

I don't understand how you know it was "SS?

How do you know he was applying too much pressure when you stopped him holding the baby's leg, presumably there were no bruises at that time

Hotflushesandchilblains · 04/03/2025 15:26

Realistically, it is not going to be possible to watch him 100% of the time. Life just doesnt work that way. You and his dad and hopefully his mum need to talk to him in an age appropriate way and tell him this is not ok. I would put up cameras in the house, and monitor. If there is any repeat, he will not be able to be at the house in the same way he is at the moment. You may also want to give him positive attention for helping his sister and making her happy.

Hdjdb42 · 04/03/2025 15:23

Epilepsystruggle · 04/03/2025 15:17

Yeah I wouldn't be letting Damien step over my threshold again.

Don't give any fucks if my husband or whoever was like 'but he's family, but he's just a child, but he's blah blah blah'

Hell nah. My motherly instinct overrides any of that shit. I'll protect and defend me and mine at the cost of my marriage, money, house, people's feelings and relationships.

Fuck that.

Agreed.

rubberduck68 · 04/03/2025 15:23

I am so sorry you are going through this, it is tough for everyone. Not quite the same but when my kids were little, my nephew would always pinch and bite my son (same age). He'd leave marks. I would comment to the parents, and it would be brushed away by the MIL and SIL, until I had to monitor like a hawk at family events. Winding forward the boy had lots of issues undiagnosed at school; he was very dyslexic and had other learning problems, which was causing him huge frustration at school, and out of it. He's grown up into a really lovely young man, with a lot of patience and love. What I do remember is that while my lioness was blazing I was furious with him, and compassion did not come easily, but looking back on it he was just a frustrated, angry little boy, whose parents had no idea what was going on for him at school. Might be an idea for the dad to get him checked out with the school or GP, and see if there is anything going on outside of both your homes that is making him so frustrated.