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I think SS is hurting my baby

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GreenPinkLilac · 04/03/2025 14:05

I have an SS, 6, two older SC and a baby who is nearly 1. When my baby was about three months old I saw SS squeezing her legs too hard. She was in a bouncy chair in the kitchen whilst I cooked and he was crouched in front of her and didn’t know I was watching. He did it twice, it was hard enough to leave bruises and he admitted it when I stopped him. Obviously I was very angry and upset but didn’t get cross with him, talked it through and watched him like a hawk for months afterwards. His dad was furious too.

Last weekend SC were here and the baby now has bruises all over her legs which look a lot like finger marks. Nursery have written up an incident report. I am as sure as it’s possible to be that it wouldn’t be the older SC, and I don’t see how the marks could have been made other than by squeezing.

I’ve known SS since he was a toddler and he’s very attached to me so it makes sense that he would be jealous because the baby takes up my time, but I cannot have this happen again. He is a high needs, high energy child who gets more 1:1 attention than anyone else when he’s in our house, but can never get enough attention.

Please talk me through an appropriate approach because I am beyond furious right now.

OP posts:
GoldDuster · 04/03/2025 15:22

Epilepsystruggle · 04/03/2025 15:17

Yeah I wouldn't be letting Damien step over my threshold again.

Don't give any fucks if my husband or whoever was like 'but he's family, but he's just a child, but he's blah blah blah'

Hell nah. My motherly instinct overrides any of that shit. I'll protect and defend me and mine at the cost of my marriage, money, house, people's feelings and relationships.

Fuck that.

Well that's nice, but what happens when your husband, who is the father of the child and the baby decides he feels the same?

He is family. He is a child. This is his home. These are facts, not opinion.

It's all very well going all Jeremy Kyle and kicking lucifer to the kerb, but this is is home, OP is the adult and this needs dealing with.

Hdjdb42 · 04/03/2025 15:21

My brother was like this with me when I was a baby. He was often told to leave me alone. It transpires now that he felt very jealous of of mum's attention of me. Unfortunately it escalated around age 5, he was moved into a children's home, as he was considered a danger to me. I still remember it well. I felt extremely vulnerable, and I don't trust people because of it. I honestly think you should stop having him around your baby, as it will damage them mentally in the long run. Keep him away.

AmyW9 · 04/03/2025 15:21

Some mental responses on here! It's one incident and one possible incident, from a child who is clearly feeling something bigger than they can handle at the meager age of six. He's not a tiny psychopath!

OP personally feel the most important and impactful thing you can do is align on your response with your step son's mother.

Appreciate the relationship between parties might make that hard, but if you can raise the issue so she's aware, and forge a way to land on a consistent approach to both handling your SS's outbursts and how you will respectively support with his feelings, that could really help.

Otherwise, keep being consistent in how you respond to situations yourselves. Kids are smarter than we give them credit for, and will learn that certain rules go in your home.

No game changing advice on keeping your baby safe, other than perhaps using a sling (if she's not too big at one)?

oakleaffy · 04/03/2025 15:20

@GreenPinkLilac Who else in the household has small pinching hands capable of bruising a vulnerable baby..

Wake up and protect your baby!

GoldDuster · 04/03/2025 15:18

Full siblings can do this to each other, try not to panic, or listen to anyone telling you to ring social services or ban him from the house. Luckily you've got more sense than that. Basically, he's hurting, but you know this.

I think what I would do, as well as accepting that I was feeling really upset because this was upsetting, would be to get a second hand buckle carrier so I could chuck the baby on my back when I wasn't able to have eyes on her, cooking, setting the table, folding washing, whatever.

I would also tell him that baby has bruises on her, and nursery have noticed and that nursery is there to help parents look after children and they get upset like families do if children get hurt. Nursery are worried and wondering where they came from, because parents can get in really big trouble if it's thought they are hurting their babies and children. Ask him if he can help you look after the baby, as you're all a family and have look after each other and keep each other safe.

I think anything stronger at this point could cause him to feel ashamed and double down, I'd be concentrating on bringing him in, not othering him and sending him away. Time in, not time out, as it were. Good luck.

oakleaffy · 04/03/2025 15:17

ConnieSlow · 04/03/2025 14:25

I would tell his mum as well as the nursery. If he is intentionally and slyly hurting the baby then that's serious stuff.

It really is !
Especially hard enough to leave bruising in shape of hand marks.

Id be very concerned about escalation regarding hurting the baby.

CCTV cameras or I’d be wanting to leave to protect the baby.

Epilepsystruggle · 04/03/2025 15:17

Yeah I wouldn't be letting Damien step over my threshold again.

Don't give any fucks if my husband or whoever was like 'but he's family, but he's just a child, but he's blah blah blah'

Hell nah. My motherly instinct overrides any of that shit. I'll protect and defend me and mine at the cost of my marriage, money, house, people's feelings and relationships.

Fuck that.

MissDoubleU · 04/03/2025 15:15

GreenPinkLilac · 04/03/2025 15:00

Last time he denied it until I said I saw him and it was moments after it happened. I think he’s more likely to tell me the truth than his dad because his dad’s more likely to shout at him. He will double down on a lie though, and given that a couple of weeks will have elapsed when we see him next, I fully believe he’d deny it.

The fact is I can’t prove it, but I’m 95% sure he's done this.

“If it really wasn’t you who hurt baby, and it couldn’t have been anyone else, I have no choice but to keep baby with me at all times to stop her being hurt again. This means we can’t have 1:1 time together. Baby has no voice to tell me who did this, and she needs protecting. Do you agree baby should not be hurt, SS?”

crinkletits · 04/03/2025 15:14

I would ask SS to help you with a task and make him feel important. Explain to him that the baby keeps hurting herself and getting bruises and you need him to help with the important job of keeping her bruise free. Make him feel important and actively take part in keeping her safe.

Bingbopboomboomboombopbam · 04/03/2025 15:14

As you’re only 99% sure it’s him I’d just put a camera in the living room for the time being, while also making sure they’re never alone together (I know they weren’t, but still).

He’s only 6 himself and being jealous of a new baby isn’t unheard of but it still doesn’t give him the right to do it.

GreenPinkLilac · 04/03/2025 15:14

SC’s mum is not on the same page as us at all when it comes to behaviour and discipline and it’s very hard to know what goes on in their house other than what older SC tell us. I don’t believe he’s hurt the younger sibling there as the older SC haven’t mentioned it.

We have been fully involved with the school when incidents have been raised, including asking them to schedule joint meetings with us and their mum to ensure we’re aligned on behaviour, but it only works as far as the school doors. They changed schools last year because she moved and his behaviour has been better since, with only one major incident. This school is firmer and we’re happy with it.

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tallhotpinkflamingo · 04/03/2025 15:14

Thing is, you're looking out for and wanting to protect your baby. Who is doing that in the other house if the mum always takes his side? It's more than just your baby being injured.

Tigergirl80 · 04/03/2025 15:13

If he’s causing bruising on the baby then I wouldn’t have him there if dh isn’t there and you’re spreading yourself thinly between the 4 dc. Social services can and do remove non mobile babies for a single bruise.

Moonnstars · 04/03/2025 15:13

nepobaby · 04/03/2025 15:08

This.

If professionals see hand marks they will rightly so report to SS.
What a horrible little boy.

I think you are wrong to call him a horrible little boy.
He is clearly struggling. There is a new baby in dad's house and it sounds like a newish sibling at his mum's.
I think he needs help with emotions, and that the parents need to seek support to help him rather than banning him from their home (rejection this proving he is unloved).

Biscuitsnotcookies · 04/03/2025 15:12

A good therapist can work through the sibling issues with play, and this might well resolve with age.

Dh could take him camping, to forest school and use the time with his son really well - away from the house so you don’t have to stay on guard the whole time op.

Bleekers · 04/03/2025 15:12

When talking to SC, be open they react badly to “defensive” behavior. Show you have nothing to hide and tell them strategy you have for being more watchful. That you will not leave them alone.
Invite them to speak to SC. Usually they get nothing from kids as kids don’t open up to strangers carrying a bag full of paper.

Moonnstars · 04/03/2025 15:09

He sounds like he has got a lot of issues. You are pretty sure he hurt the baby and he has hurt his siblings in the past. You say there have also been some incidents at school (again in the past which have been dealt with). He tells lies, especially to his dad.

You need to come up with a plan with his dad for how you will deal with this in your home. What will the consequences be if he hurts someone and tells lies?
Also has dad spoken to school about this or does he leave that to the mum? I think this boy needs support, whether he has some sen need or not, he should at least be on their radar in terms of support. There are things like play therapy which could help him manage emotions for example.

rainydaysandrainbows · 04/03/2025 15:09

@Pigcasso

"My dad and mum got divorced when I was 2, I have visited him at his new house but it was never MY home, I was the visitor

I would not have a violent child around my baby"

I think that's really sad though that you were made to feel like that and I don't think children should be made to feel like a visitor in their own parent's house

nepobaby · 04/03/2025 15:09

Icanttakethisanymore · 04/03/2025 14:38

Bit of a derail but if she's 1 is she crawling / walking? Does she fall over / topple over / hurt herself at all and cry about it? Does she bruise easily?

It's surprising that a squeeze hard enough to bruise hasn't caused her to cry.

The OP has clearly stated she is not crawling or mobile.

nepobaby · 04/03/2025 15:08

ConnieSlow · 04/03/2025 14:25

I would tell his mum as well as the nursery. If he is intentionally and slyly hurting the baby then that's serious stuff.

This.

If professionals see hand marks they will rightly so report to SS.
What a horrible little boy.

Pigcasso · 04/03/2025 15:08

rainydaysandrainbows · 04/03/2025 15:06

Why isn't it his home? Surely the home of his father is his home too?

My dad and mum got divorced when I was 2, I have visited him at his new house but it was never MY home, I was the visitor

I would not have a violent child around my baby

GreenPinkLilac · 04/03/2025 15:08

AlexP24 · 04/03/2025 15:03

Exactly, he was clearly a baby himself when his dad got with someone else and had a new baby. Does his dad spend time 1 on 1 with him? kids need that attention, especially from their biological dads. It is so hard on step children and I feel so sorry for them having to navigate these decisions their families make, with their undeveloped brains. Especially when their dad has wasted no time moving on after breaking up from his mum. Sorry, but I actually feel sorry for the poor little mite. Oh, and I think if you are telling him off and sending him to his room - as you say - you should definitely be telling his mum. If a step dad was telling a 6 year old girl off and sending her to her room etc, I would think he was not handling a sensitive 6 year old well, just because you are a women, the people on mumsnet let it all slide. The boy may or may not be hurting his sibling, but maybe you need to calm down and handle things differently. Maybe his dad can make a real fuss of him alone, take him out, spoil him. In my experience dads who move on rarely spend 121 time with their kids, they leave it all to the woman, and - let's be honest - you don't love him, because he isn't yours. You are 'so,so angry' at him. That is not the feeling you should have about a step child. Maybe you should have a bit more empathy about everything the poor little sod's been through in his 6 years, and don't see him for a while, not if you are so angry at him. Also, you should tell his mum, because I think - sorry but I mean this - that you shouldn't see him for a while with your anger and I suspect that's the real reason you aren't telling her, because you know she's have a go at you. You aren't his parent. You've clearly made your mind up he's to blame anyway.

Some of these responses though 'don't let him in the house', 'call SS'. Ridiculous. But predictable.

Oh come off it, I’m allowed to be angry at anyone purposefully hurting my tiny baby.

And before you get fully into the stepmum bashing, his mum had an affair then left with another man when he was under one. Then I met them. His mum then moved hundreds of miles away without telling his dad and enrolled his siblings in school, as this was during Covid there was a massive court backlog and they were deemed settled. My SC love me and I love them. Not every stepmum is Lady Tremaine.

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PickyTits · 04/03/2025 15:07

Pigcasso · 04/03/2025 14:56

It is not his home though, its his Dad's home that he visits

...and people wonder why step children often feel unloved, unwanted and like a burden. What a horrible attitude.

Biscuitsnotcookies · 04/03/2025 15:07

rainydaysandrainbows · 04/03/2025 15:04

You can't ban him from your house anymore than the mother can ban him from hers he's as much a child of the family as the baby is.

They could end up being investigated by SS for child abuse, of course they have to take action.

ExIssues · 04/03/2025 15:06

I think you need to go to the GP. How hard would a 6 year old have to squeeze to leave a bruise? If the child didn't cry then it can't have been that hard? Maybe there's something underlying. If not then at least you've checked.