AIBU to be utterly horrified that the US has cut off military aid to Ukraine?

I think it is in reference to Mr musk acquiring his billions upon billions upon billions of american dollar contracts that he is acquiring while raiding the pennies from lesser mortal American citizens. ( Musky has the sweet ambition of wanting to be the first Trillionaire) Why should an American citizen get medicaid /medicare/ social security or a veteran have a job when a few well fed billionaires can travel in spacex to Mars.

Dont forget there is the added benefit of the mere mortals just falling off this mortal coil in the absence of affordable healthcare...it will save a FORTUNE.

Your American coffers are being raided and given to the south African.

And billed us for it.

eventually, after repeatedly refusing. It was Pearl Harbour that changed their minds

And they charged us massively for the privilege. The UK paid the loan off in 2006

FWIW I don't like the man either and it's worth remembering that it's mainly Russia at fault for invading in the first place, but as you rightly said the sponging hasn't helped and neither has the way some "leaders" convinced themselves it would continue for ever

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Seriously - how the fuck do some of you see this ending? After an aggressive invasion which if nothing else has so far kept Russia from the door of other nations, do you seeZelensky bending over to the demands of Putin and Trump who will quickly take everything they can get without giving two fucks about the people of Ukraine, do you think Putin will stop? Really?

Because he fucking won't.

We either continue to chip in to Ukraine or we make some tough decisions and Europe come together and tell America to fuck off.

Because if we acquiesce to these maniacs we're all screwed

@Hellohelga America backed us in WW II or have you forgotten that? They owe us absolutely nothing.

"I never thought leopards would eat MY face," sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.

Sadly there is a complete absence of reasoned argument on this thread from Trump/Putin apologists. If you actually read the post that I was referring to you might also see the ignorance contained in it.
Trump supporters seem to believe that the US are the saviours of the world and generously throw their money at us out of the goodness of their hearts, whilst failing to realise the actual reasons for the proliferation of US military bases throughout Europe.

@itsjustbiology
The US signed the Budapest Memorandum !

Its a historical fact and agreement….

After the amount of hatred levelled at Trump over the last months I'm not surprised he has decided not to play the game any more
If Trump and co. really wants respect, he needs to start acting an adult with an ounce of emotional intelligence. Acting like the school bully with their accolade has lost its power. Nowadays, these bullies are being challenged and gain no credibility at all.

Witnessing such emotionally immature intelligence from a world leader is utterly baffling.

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Zelensky in heels … dancing

Wow - the hysterical one is you.

First up Europe has spent as much as the US on aid to Ukraine. In the region of $100bn each.

Second Trump insists on stating the US has spent $350bn. BBC fact checking and others have requested a source for this figure but had no response. I suspect it’s the same source as Boris’ brexit £350m per week for Brussels claim.

Third no one is asking the US to unilaterally fund anything.

Fourth, Europe and especially the UK backed the US in Iraq and Afghanistan so yes you owe us. It’s a two way street.

This post deserves copying
Again and Again !

"And the spin-off benefit for the people of Ukraine is that Putin stops mercilessly killing and terrifying them 24/7."

If that were the case then they wouldn't care what peacekeeping force was in Ukraine.

Ukraine government has approved the minerals deal and was ready to sign it - their comments are in black and white in The Times today.

I dont think Russia wanted to sign the minerals agreement - and Trump was caught on the hop and needed to blame somebody for his deal failing.

There must be other floating voters though who were taken in by his bullshit and are regretting their choice now that reality is starting to set in. There must be! Surely! Please tell me they don't all support this arsewipe unquestioningly!!! ☹️

There certainly are. Even some of his base are starting to say "hang on, we didn't ask for this"

The baffler is why the American electorate didn’t see it.

Price of eggs, innit.

and blaming just the retirees as well 🤣🤣🤣

You're not surprised that the man America elected as their president is prepared to wreck America financially and support the invasion of sovereign countries and the slaughter of civilians because "some people have been nasty to him"? You don't have a very high opinion of Trump yourself, clearly.

The US and Russia have the same motivation and objectives. Increasing their vast wealth. This whole war was about Putin getting the areas of Ukraine richest in priceless minerals. So it makes sense that a 'deal' involves the two 'parents' divvying up the spoils. And the spin-off benefit for the people of Ukraine is that Putin stops mercilessly killing and terrifying them 24/7.

This is a dirty deal. Trump and Putin are very dirty. Zelensky is not. He is a man of extreme principle and, ultimately, love for his country, his people, and others, which is evidenced in all of his behaviour.

This is genuinely a fight between good and evil.

So, Trump removing aid will delight Russia. This gets Russia even more likely to be receptive to a deal seemingly forged between the two of them, disgracing and bypassing Zelensky, Putin additiionally cock-a-hoop that killing innocents has got him what he wants.

But

Europe is not full of kids. There are genuine stateswomen and men, plus our own Starmer, who are the real grown ups. They are trying to rally and step up. Let's see.

However, it is true, unfortunately, that in terms of resolution for Ukraine, Zelensky would be better off cowtowing to Trump, heaping praise on him in his 'peace'-brokering role, and getting down to the detail of it. He would be better off with a safe Ukraine, protected by an international buffer zone and army, with a massive injection of rebuilding capital, in a deal with the US where effectively he is paying them for protection.

YES it is a racket.
YES it is scandalous.

But at the moment, Ukraine is held to ransom. It is like a situation of extreme domestic abuse. Sometimes you have to do a deal with the devil, sell your soul and whatever else you can, give up all you would never have dreamed of relinquishing, just to gain the one thing most precious, without which you will have no life:

Freedom.

Zelensky needs to deal for freedom, and pay whatever the price. His job is not to walk off. It is to get the best deal he can. Or rather, the least costly to Ukraine. But yes, it will hurt. That he is even having to do a deal is beyond disgraceful.

But this, unfortunately, is our planet. Ruled by money and force.

So in order to survive, Zelensky needs to deliver that deal.

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Try a little fact finding. You can't seriously believe the USA is the only contributer to global defence.

The fundamental reason that there is a combined effort to maintain world peace is to ensure there is shared intelligence and defence if required should a dictator like Putin/KimJung Un/ Xi Jingpin attack militarily or engage in nuclear warfare.

Eg 9/11 is a case in point ...Europe stepped up when it was America that were the primary target. This is still a recent memory for most but it seems to have been conveniently forgotten, as in the case of the vice president Vance. Despite his Yale education, and apparently serving in the Marine Corps.

Why are you showing me a chart about abortion??!

Trump is actively dismantling US security now.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/02/us/politics/hegseth-cyber-russia-trump-putin.html

Very well said, Ablondiebutagoodie
Certainly it's devastating for Ukraine, whose ordinary citizens don't deserve this, but while the almost competitive hating on Trump's doubtless very enjoyable for some, the cries of Europe having to take up the cudgels are getting a bit silly considering they don't have the wherewithal to do it without US backing

FWIW I don't like the man either and it's worth remembering that it's mainly Russia at fault for invading in the first place, but as you rightly said the sponging hasn't helped and neither has the way some "leaders" convinced themselves it would continue for ever

Maybe if they were better travelled they would be less likely to believe the BS Trump dished out.

or maybe the racism and misogyny would still have been irresistible

A rich democratic country has voted for a thieving Psychopath, and they are well and truly finding out. Idiots

The MAGA hats are obviously too tight and are causing brain damage.Its the only explanation for such utter shite..