AIBU to be utterly horrified that the US has cut off military aid to Ukraine?

What's that got to do with me? I'm British. Lots of xenophobic American haters are piling on to me because they think I'm American.

They haven't won either, giving in to bullies is never a good idea

Maybe if we hadn't spent defence money and lives helping out the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan we might have a better equiped military now.
Oh I forgot we a one of the two random nations that haven't won a war for 30 or 40 years.

@ImStayingOutofIt but they have stood together so far and it's been three years and Russia hasn't backed down ?

Sigh

I really doubt he is a Russian asset. He is just doing exactly what he said he would do in recent speeches - putting the USA first (and not giving a damn about anyone else in the process).

He sees an opportunity for the USA to make a lot of money by getting mineral rights in Ukraine for no cost. He is quite prepaerd to bully Ukraine into accepting whatever deal is agreed and to cosy up to Putin at the same time to achieve it. He doesn't give a damn about Ukraine, only the money which is to be made by mining their land and he has seized an opportunity to get it.

There wouldn't be a war with Russia if Europe and American stood together against them. Russia would back down.

Trump dancing. I guess Diaper Don can't handle heels, so envy on his part.

I think you overestimate how little US voters care about Ukraine. It is a very long way away from the US and a country many have never even heard of. Foreign policy is not a big issue in US elections.

Oh so now we are paying debts back and moaning about it but everyone is fine with giving billions to Ukraine because it's for the 'safety of the world'. You all need to make up your minds where you stand on giving away money because all I see is double standards.

I'm pretty sure you've got the message now that we paid them for their help. And they owe us fir all we did during 9/11

Trump is siding with Putin because Putin is paying him. Through contracts and cash.

Trump is lining his pockets. That's all this is about. And Putin is happy to give Trump billions.

Technically they joined because of Pearl Harbour so only when they saw that they were being personally affected. Up until then they refused support. The US only at that point declared war on Japan, Germany and Italy however then declared war on the US.

That’s not putting down efforts by the US and their military in reaching a positive result, its just fact.

You could well be right. It was Vance that scuppered the signing of the deal with his unprovoked outburst. Actions that in any other circumstances would have been rebuked by Trump.

...and 9/11....the whole point was to defend each other in the event of an attack from a greater force of evil ...it used to be Russia was the big threat, but Trump wants to get into bed with Putin ( or so the rumours go) Trump probably just wants to build an hotel and golf course in Moscow.

I don't know who we need more. Jed Bartlett or Raymond Reddington.
Although #25 Donald J Trump would be a great episode title.

I haven’t heard the agent information before, I’m shocked but not surprised if it is true.
Trump and Vance are dangerous because they are so powerful and have a ridiculous mindset - a very worrying combination.
It’s a pity Western Europe can’t tell them both to F off but sadly we can’t as we do need their support. We’ve been far too lax about our protection/armed services for years……. frighteningly this is how WWll started in Europe, but of course Germany not Russia in the 1930s.
How can Russia say this will pave way for peace when they invaded and won’t stop bombing Ukraine - it’s would be laughable if it wasn’t so serious.

Next up he'll cancel Russian sanctions so the oligarchs can get back to spanking some cash on his golf courses.

He was talking about introducing a Gold 'green card' , where people with a significant amount of cash can get a fast track to citizenship ? A sort of Oligarchs are us, option.

America ONLY 'backed us in the war' after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor in 1941. We paid back billions of $$$ for their 'backing' as I posted up thread But don't let the facts get in the way of your hyperbole.

Sigh.

https://nation.cymru/news/wales-brexit-vote-caused-by-english-retirees-oxford-university/

This

Blimey, that's perked up my afternoon! Is there anything that man can't look good in?

No wonder fat orange Trump hates him!

America only backed us in WW11 because Japan bombed Pearl Harbour,they didnt want to get involved until they were attacked and needed us ,,

Eventually they did, after two years. And we paid them handsomely for it, in fact the loan was only repaid in 2006. The US never give anyone anything out of the goodness of their hearts.
You might like to look up how much we, and the rest of Europe, supported them after 9/11, it’s called international cooperation.

And they fucked us financially for years to come (And took all those clever science type Nazis under their wings too as they were quite useful).

We answered their cries for help after 9/11 so damn right they owe us

The UK paid the US back - the debt was settled in 2006.