AIBU to be utterly horrified that the US has cut off military aid to Ukraine?

Trump is deliberately weakening US security and strengthening Putin's hand. With this, with his block on equipment to Ukraine, with his mass firing of people looking after America's nuclear arsenal etc.

It may make you feel better to dismiss this as a non story, but the reality is he's wrecking the USA.

You might be on to something. He probably feels alienated by Europe and slightly vengeful...

It's time for the wool to fall from the world's eyes. The Trump administration have, so far, been gaslighting the world that their priority is peace (really!); they just want to enable negotiations; they are neutral arbiters, etc, etc, etc.

No more bullshit. Europe and Canada has understandably been in a state of disbelief, but we can't pretend anymore. How much more evidence do we need -

1. US administration have never once acknowledged that Russia started the war by invading a sovereign territory.

2. They publicly called Zelenskyy a dictator.

3. No criticism of Putin - WTF!

4. They went over the head of Ukraine and European allies in that first meeting between US and Russia in Saudi. We should have seen it for what it was then.

5. Repeatedly inflating (more than doubling) the amount of aid they claim US has given Ukraine - despite all evidence to the contrary.

6. The Oval office debacle.

7. Voting last week with Russia, N. Korea, Belarus etc - not even abstaining.

8. Trump's statement that "the EU was only formed to destroy America."

9. Trump's cynical treatment of war-ravaged Ukraine as a minerals extortion opportunity

10. Now the 'pause' on aid to Ukraine

11. Clear adoption of Russia war rhetoric and language throughout the so-called 'diplomacy.'

12. No mention of a single concession Russia will be expected to make in this 'peace deal' - while the assumption that Ukraine will be unable to reclaim its former territory is apparently baked-in to 'negotiations' at the outset.

13. Gaslighting about the minerals grab being the equivalent of a security guarantee.

14. Musk posting on X that it's time for US to leave NATO and UN.

15. Vance's speech in Munich that the 'real threat' to Europe is not actually Russia (!!!) - oh no, it's the 'threat from within.' Said shamelessly, in front of Ukrainian generals at the conference, while their men and families are being killed - now.

16. Vance's decision to only meet with the AFD after the Munich conference, not the actual Chancellor or any other party.

17. Musk beamed onto the big screen with a rousing speech to rally the AFD Nazis in the days leading up to the German election.

HOW MUCH MORE EVIDENCE DO WE NEED?

This Trump administration is not 'determined to bring peace.' They are Russian puppets spouting Kremlin rhetoric. With Nazi-sympathisers and Christian anti-abortion zealots sprinkled among them.

The appearance of sycophancy and 'toeing the line' that now characterises US cabinet meetings or press conference rhetoric resembles something from.... The Kremlin or North Korea. It's all too weird.

They talk about 'free speech.' They mean they want the freedom to pedal hate speech - a weird hash of Kremlin / Nazi / anti-Islamic rhetoric; with some anti-abortion, ominous 'Christian' weirdness thrown into the mix.

This administration is the worst of humanity. Make no mistake. I hope America wakes up before it's too late.

You may be right but needn't have been as rude.

Because they have chosen to side with Russia at the expense of Ukraine.

They are probably also trying to weaken the Russian relationship with China.

But that is a non-story anyway. "Stopped offensive cyber operations" - was the US actively hacking Russian infrastructure?

Too right … mumsnet is known for unbiased news discussion & reporting. Hahaha

In regards to “golden green card”. America is a bit late to the party. Many many EU countries do it:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigrant_investor_programs

These are some of the places Brits go when Labour increases the tax rates …

Oh he's a Russian stooge, why else do this?

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/02/politics/us-cyber-operations-russia-suspend/index.html

That's going well, the only Americans profiting from their policies are the Trump family (200 million and rising) Musk and the billionaires.

Don't be surprised if you get some push back if you are defending Americas position.

While you say that America is in so much debt why oh why are they literally throwing not only multiple billions of dollars at musk, but aside from that ALL of their eggs in one basket? No business man worth their salt would invest in one man for all of their outlying business enterprises, because if one goes down they all do. If anyone should know about failing businesses it is trump.

If you are in so much debt as a country why invest billions of billions of dollars in going to MARS how about protecting their own people.

Its like spending 60 or 70 k on a flashy car when your house is over run with dry rot.

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You seem to be unaware of the actual reasons for the US maintaining military bases in Europe, it is for their benefit, not ours, saying they will close them down is pure hyperbole on Trump’s behalf.
The US government under Trump is showing itself to be a risk to the world, people being concerned and angry about that is neither xenophobic nor hateful.

You were the one who started with the “owing” rhetoric.

https://youtube.com/shorts/JmT_fYc1iQ0?si=pXXgEbsuya5OZKmY

Maybe America aren't really going out on a limb to be THANKFUL for everything that Europe and the UK did to support them during 9/11. He hasn't even got an excuse he was in the Marine Corps and went to Yale.

Stating facts is neither xenophobic nor hateful. If you make obviously false or misleading statements then prepare to be called out on it, this is Mumsnet, not Fox News.

Yes I think this is an insightful comment and key to this. Aside from the MAGA loons the voters who helped nudge Trump to his not altogether sweeping victory were moderate Republicans who held their noses, concerned primarily with inflation. I wonder what they are thinking now?

Tbf. We needed Russia too. We couldn’t have won it without both.
plus Germany and Italy declared war on the US. The US initially wasn’t joining the War against them, just Japan. They really didn’t join by choice and good will

I think they are going isolationist. "America first" was what Trump was elected upon. Sick of US money being spent overseas maybe?

Don Trumpioni
I see that he plans to defund any school, college, or University that allows 'illegal' protest.

Who decides what is 'illegal' protest?
One assumes it is anyone who disagrees with the administration.
So much for free speech in Land of the Free!

At no point did I say that the USA is the only contributer to global defence; you are making things up to fit some agenda.
I merely pointed out that the USA is in $36trillion of debt, whilst European countries don't even pay the agreed amount for NATO membership.
Time for the Europeans to step up instead of relying on US tax payers. 300million people subsidising the 600million Europeans. It seems fair to me but people don't like it.
What is so triggering for you about my suggestion that Europeans should pay for their own defense? I'm British btw so this applies to me too.

They need a lot of those bases though.
They give them access for shorter range missiles to attack in the face of aggression. Which includes against them

I suspect that the USA will remove a lot of the bases you are referring to. They are in $36trillion of debt and can no longer to fund Europe's defence (including Ukraine). Trump is forcing the Europeans to up their defence budgets and look after themselves.

I'm British by the way, seeing lots of xenophobic American haters piling in on this thread.

America refused to help in WWll until the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour - that brought them into the war. Having said that without them we’d have lost the war and be speaking German now.
We paid America back for their support for years and our last payment was under the Blair/Brown government.

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I know which one I prefer. Lots and lots of evidence that trump doesn't want the electorate to see...Pam Bondis pathetic 'release' of the already out there files is laughable.

I was saying to DH earlier that surely if/when Trump lifts sanctions against Russia, it would be tantamount to him declaring out and out support for Putin.