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Pancakeday14 · 04/03/2025 09:11

Just been informed yesterday by my solicitor after months of worrying and back and forth that my house sale is going to complete next Tuesday. Obviously very excited and a lot to do.

I have tried to book Tuesday off but my manager has declined it and said no as I’m suppose to be out that day at a charity event and nobody can cover. I looked at the timings and I won’t be back until 6pm after the estate agent is closed to collect the keys. Live 200 miles from family so nobody can help that side either. I also don’t know what I’ll do with all my stuff etc and really wanted to do final checks. I’ll do as much as I can over the weekend.

so I’ve had to message again to say I really need that day off. I can’t risk having nowhere to sleep that night and I will need to have removals that day. Manager has said if I take the day it’ll be unpaid and I will be at risk of disciplinary. I’m going to have no choice am I?

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JHound · 04/03/2025 14:44

TY78910 · 04/03/2025 12:17

Most employers that I have worked for have asked (for scheduling and staffing reasons) for 30 days. Anything less is at discretion and if business need allows. If OP has daily events, they are likely scheduled in advance so would need more notice. But yes, she would need to check her annual leave policy to determine whether she’s given enough notice - IME 7 days is not enough for when you are public facing

Ok so this is based on your past employment specifically.

But that has nothing to do with me or this thread. By definition “advance notice” just means in advance of the time being requested.

JHound · 04/03/2025 14:41

DaniMontyRae · 04/03/2025 12:11

But it's not out of hours? It's part of her working day.

Yes I noticed that afterwards.

But even it being a work day I have never worked somewhere that a) Would not try to find a solution and b) Would move straight to a disciplinary in this circumstance. Hence I would accept the manager’s response but start seeking a better company to work for.

Amba1998 · 04/03/2025 12:19

all parties have to agree a completion date you don’t just get it dictated to you. If you can’t do that day why can’t you suggest the next day to your solicitor?

TY78910 · 04/03/2025 12:17

JHound · 04/03/2025 12:08

Where are you getting “advance notice is 30 days” from?

What definition of advance notice means “30 days”? Do you mean where you work specifically?

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Most employers that I have worked for have asked (for scheduling and staffing reasons) for 30 days. Anything less is at discretion and if business need allows. If OP has daily events, they are likely scheduled in advance so would need more notice. But yes, she would need to check her annual leave policy to determine whether she’s given enough notice - IME 7 days is not enough for when you are public facing

DaniMontyRae · 04/03/2025 12:11

JHound · 04/03/2025 12:05

Which is why I said she needs to look for a new job. I have NEVER worked for somewhere that would move straight to disciplinary for missing one out of hours work event, with advance notice for a fairly major reason.

I had to move late last year and was giving far least notice to attend viewings, all no issue.

I am not saying to OP just not show up but I would personally be seeking a better employer.

But it's not out of hours? It's part of her working day.

SpringleDingle · 04/03/2025 12:10

Removals companies will store your stuff (they stored mine for 3 months as we were between houses) but it costs money!!

JHound · 04/03/2025 12:08

TY78910 · 04/03/2025 12:06

Advance notice is 30 days. This is 7. Hardly advance

Where are you getting “advance notice is 30 days” from?

What definition of advance notice means “30 days”? Do you mean where you work specifically?

JHound · 04/03/2025 12:07

Pancakeday14 · 04/03/2025 09:35

I’ve had to accept it as the whole chain is pushing for that date and my sellers mortgage offer runs out on the 12th and she’s left it to late for an extension 😬

Why is there absolutely no wriggle room on the date? Is it usual for them to say this is the date and that’s it?

Can you try to find your own cover for work by discussing with your colleagues.

TY78910 · 04/03/2025 12:06

JHound · 04/03/2025 12:05

Which is why I said she needs to look for a new job. I have NEVER worked for somewhere that would move straight to disciplinary for missing one out of hours work event, with advance notice for a fairly major reason.

I had to move late last year and was giving far least notice to attend viewings, all no issue.

I am not saying to OP just not show up but I would personally be seeking a better employer.

Advance notice is 30 days. This is 7. Hardly advance

JHound · 04/03/2025 12:05

TY78910 · 04/03/2025 11:11

You can't just not come to work.

You can book holiday (which was declined based on business needs), take a sick day, or bereavement, or dependant leave. Those are the only reasons you could be off work at short notice without breaching your employment contract. So yes, investigation and then likely disciplinary action is appropriate.

Which is why I said she needs to look for a new job. I have NEVER worked for somewhere that would move straight to disciplinary for missing one out of hours work event, with advance notice for a fairly major reason.

I had to move late last year and was giving far least notice to attend viewings, all no issue.

I am not saying to OP just not show up but I would personally be seeking a better employer.

JHound · 04/03/2025 12:02

It’s bonkers that the company has zero back-up. What if you won the lottery or were hit by a bus? What then?

Seriously I would be looking for a new job. That lack of flexibility would kill me.

Conniebygaslight · 04/03/2025 11:49

I'd try to do something with the vendors directly once completion has happened. Ask your EA for advice

Mareleine · 04/03/2025 11:48

Once, when we completed too late in the day to get the keys (long-distance move and EA was 30 mins from property), the EA sent out a locksmith to change the locks to let us into the property that day. Could a locksmith be an option? Once it's your property you can just change the locks if you want.

theressomanytinafeysicouldbe · 04/03/2025 11:41

I handed my keys to my vendors in a coop car park.

Can you pop out to get the keys, ask a colleague/friends to collect them?

Maybe they could drop the keys off at the property with your removal men and then they will be halfway through moving you in by the time you get there.

bloodredfeaturewall · 04/03/2025 11:21

you don't have to move on completion day.
you can pack up and put in storage before and unpack later.

TY78910 · 04/03/2025 11:11

JHound · 04/03/2025 10:10

Disciplinary for missing ONE event?

I would he looking for a better company to work for

You can't just not come to work.

You can book holiday (which was declined based on business needs), take a sick day, or bereavement, or dependant leave. Those are the only reasons you could be off work at short notice without breaching your employment contract. So yes, investigation and then likely disciplinary action is appropriate.

AlisonDonut · 04/03/2025 11:06

I'd tell your manager that unfortunately the issue is that you are having to complete and move on that day and so you are unable to be in two places at once and so whatever, if this warrants a 'disciplinary' then so be it. I'd copy HR and their manager into the response as well.

LumpyandBumps · 04/03/2025 10:53

Pancakeday14 · 04/03/2025 10:17

Sorry, we do these events daily. They are stands at different charity shops!. Yeah I think I’ll have to look into storage etc. I won’t be able to collect the keys until the Wednesday as the estate agent closes at 5.

How far away are you?
Would the agents be willing to send you the keys via courier? ( at your risk and expense)

Isobel201 · 04/03/2025 10:23

I'd move out on Monday off and drop the keys off to the estate agent then ask removals to hold your stuff for a day, and book into a hotel for a couple of nights. Horrible timing with the charity event, but if there's no alternative, then that's the only plan I can think of.

Phunkychicken · 04/03/2025 10:19

Our buyers money didn’t go through in tone so it stood was stuck on a truck the entire weekend and then DH couldn’t have the Monday off when we eventually moved in as he just started a new job. I had a 13 month old and was 6 months pregnant. It was hell. In your shoes I’d definitely pay the extra for the movers to store overnight, and just move the Wednesday. How long ago did you agree to Tuesday being the moving day ?

Pancakeday14 · 04/03/2025 10:17

Sorry, we do these events daily. They are stands at different charity shops!. Yeah I think I’ll have to look into storage etc. I won’t be able to collect the keys until the Wednesday as the estate agent closes at 5.

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Overthebow · 04/03/2025 10:15

You need to tell your solicitor that you can’t complete in that day. I’m surprised this didn’t come up before, whenever we’ve moved we’ve discussed days for completion quite far in advance and avoid the days which are definite no’s.

helpfulperson · 04/03/2025 10:14

Will the event have to be cancelled if you don't attend?

FeministUnderTheCatriarchy · 04/03/2025 10:14

I don't think your manager is being unreasonable. You are telling them at late notice and this is an event that is important. Not a normal work day.

I know it isn't your fault, bjt it isn't theirs either.

Ask your removal company to hold your things and move out on the Monday.
Stay in a hotel Tuesday if you need to and then properly move in Wednesday and take that day off.

I wouldn't be risking a disciplinary, not if you like your job.
The market is unforgiving at the moment and being managed out isn't the same as it used to be. People aren't walking into jew jobs these days.

I would prioritise financial stability, especially with a new house purchase.

I think it's very likely the estate agents and removal company can work with you to get a solution

JHound · 04/03/2025 10:10

Disciplinary for missing ONE event?

I would he looking for a better company to work for

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