Russia & USA – all getting very weird?

Maybe it's time to just nuke this planet and hopefully in a few million years something better will crawl out of the swamps.

That was my thoughts after the announcement earlier today too.

US military aide to Ukraine was just suspended.

The news I am seeing says the US is stepping back on offensive cyber operations against Russia. That would seem to suggest they are still doing other kinds of operations like intelligence gathering and cyber security.

Probably still not a good thing but not the same as inviting them in.

Same, I also think Israel was involved (separately).

I've always found it suspect that it went from months and months of "no one can predict it, it's so close" to "landslide" in a few hours.

They are preparing for Russia to interfere in Ukrainian elections so they can have a Putin puppet in place of Zelensky, and they don't want a digital footprint that can be seen by US cybersecurity experts.

They are also expecting the world to go to shit and China to invade Taiwan, which is why they've just announced a big Taiwanese semiconductor company starting a $100 bn operation in the US, so that the US can safeguard the manufacturing of vital computer components once the war starts in Taiwan.

I assume Trump is blowing smoke up Putin’s arse to stop him cuddling up to China?

That and he wants to stop spending US money on being a peacekeeper for the West.

I have absolutely no proof but I would not be surprised that Trump’s presidency was bought with Russian money and with Russian voter interference. Hence Trump will do anything for Putin as he owes him, big time.

If he had something like sex videos on a Trump, God forbid, then surely Trump would just not stand for presidency?

BonkersBaddies · Today 22:21

Putin is extremely intelligent and he's laughing now!

Is he though? My MiL is now 87, from a former Soviet Republic and she says that he only got to be an Lt Colonel in the KGB by his connections. If he was really clever, he'd have been a properly senior officer.

She says he has low animal cunning and I think the same of Trump.

When Putin got in, she said, "Do you know what he is? KGB. Russia is finished." It is, in a way, because it has a paranoid dictator.

It's been all over the BBC, Washington post, new York times .. definitely being reported by mainstream media ...

Number 2 has crossed my mind many times, and I also wondered if Musk was a Russian agent.

Though I like to tell myself it's just my imagination.

I think the more likely scenario is that Putin got interested in Trump a few years ago, saw an opportunity to actually effectively wiggle his way to the top of US politics via Trump, and was able to feed Trump's ego and tap into his desire for money and wealth enough to completely get him believing everything he says. Putin is extremely intelligent and he's laughing now!

I haven't decided if Trump is an evil genius or a thick puppet. I prefer to think the latter because the former is far too frightening.

Worryingly, people had similar thoughts about Hitler (comedic thick puppet or evil genius) and many preferred to believe the comedy puppet than face the evil genius and that didn't end too well.

Point 2 discussed here:

In the run up to his first election, he was asked about being skint and how he was dealing with it. He said that he just had to ask his Russian friends. He had Russian banks and media companies in his New York properties.

They may also have other material on him, but I can't claim any knowledge of that.

At the very least, he's in hock to them for a fortune.

This too, Trump admires what he considers "strong" and tough leaders like all of those we would consider despicable.

There's been reports about this over the last days from reliable sources. We are unfortunately also at the stage where they will deny it if asked...

I was always cynical about this, but over the last couple of weeks I've become more open to the possibility. It seems incomprehensible that a Russian asset has actually been installed as President in the White House, but how else can Trump's behaviour be explained? He appears to be doing everything he can to smooth the way for Putin to get whatever he wants.

Yes, but this does not explain why he is so determined to let Russia have whatever they want.

I think its more to so with money/ Trump being recruited by Russians a long time ago (which is really believable as he is a shit businessman but likes to pretend he is not, so buying him to help him keep up the charade would totally be possible).

I think Trump just doesn't see anything wrong with the way Putin controls Russia. I think he actually thinks it's something to aspire to and he wants to control American and Americans in pretty much the same way.

It seems clear he is a long term Russian asset who they have managed to install as president by means of a decades long cyber war.
The most terrifying part is many many people could see exactly what was happening from the start, called it out repeatedly and were silenced or shouted down by the "patriotic" right wing media machine.
The West / NATO and the whole post war world order has been destroyed in under a month in a bloodless coup. It's amazing really.

Lizards?

They
Are
Being
Controlled
By
Aliens and Elon musk

He’s a Russian asset.