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Friend's one night stands to get pregnant

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Polkadotbikinininii · 03/03/2025 14:03

I know this is none of my business. I won't say anything to her unless she brings it up again. I will NEVER say anything to anyone else.

My friend is late 30s and long term single. She has always wanted kids and is very aware of her age.

She told me drunkenly the other night that a few years ago she started having one night stands with the hope of getting pregnant.

She says that she is open with the men about what she is doing as she has no interest in tricking or trapping them. She is happy to nevet see them again and be a single mum.

She thinks she's done it about 25 times in the last few years. Apparently only a few have said no. Most of the men just want reassurance that she won't go after them for money/relationship. 🤨She said 2 men have said they would like to stay in touch if she gets pregnant.

She is stunningly beautiful and funny so I can well imagine that most men will be so impressed with themselves for getting her in bed that they aren't thinking straight enough to say no.

She is very capable of looking after hererself/a child. She has a strong family network who will make sure the child is sorted if something happens to my friend.

She said that the men who don't want anything to do with any child are deadbeats and she wouldn't want them in their life anyway. I asked about what happened if the ones who are interested turn out to be deadbeats and she said that could happen with any pregnancy. I asked about the child that won't know who their dad is and again, she said it's better than a deadbeat who won't support the child and let's them down.

She reassured me that she does do STD tests and never puts herself at risk. Apparently she is very strict with herself and if she is "going out to make babies" she doesn't drink at all and apparently if she has never bought anyone back when drunk.

I asked why she doesn't use donated sperm. She said she doesn't like the idea of it being medicalised and all the pressure of it and that she was also having fun.

She pointed out that any one night stand could result in a baby with a stranger and at least this way, the baby will be wanted.

I couldn't explain why I think this is all just so yukky. She accused me of slut shaming and pointed out that the men she takes home will be bragging to their friends every time they get a woman in bed and that lots of women take home more men than she does and plenty of people don't use protection.

Ignoring the risks, I don't think it's the taking people home that made me purse my lips. It's the intention behind it. It's irrational but I feel like maybe an accidental baby from a very short relationship is a better idea than a wanted baby after a one night stand?

ARE unreasonable- your friend will make a great mum and there will be good support for her and any baby. She has told you she isn't taking any risks.

ARE NOT unreasonable - getting pregnant ON PURPOSE from a one night stand is grim. She should be exploring other options.

OP posts:
peachgreen · 03/03/2025 17:24

GlacialLook · 03/03/2025 14:36

It's hardly patriarchal to think that deliberately choosing a man who is irresponsible enough to have sex without a condom with a total stranger as your child's putative father is a terrible idea!

I think you'd be surprised at how many men this would apply to, though. I had a bit of a wild phase before settling down with my DP and I'd say more than 90% of men will suggest sex without a condom. There's a spectrum from "only puts one on when you ask but does so without complaint" to "actively pushes for it and is pissed off when you say no", but it's a pretty common thing, even amongst otherwise "nice guys".

WaterFallFairy · 03/03/2025 17:23

Obviously it's nothing todo with you. BUT if she doesn't drink when these ONS happen, and they are drinking.. if that was the other way round.. it would be a very different story

Floppyflippers · 03/03/2025 17:22

YABU. It is her body. Not yours. Not mine. Not anyone's who is passing judgement on here. As I fully believe in a woman's right to bodily autonomy, I'd be a hypocrite to even express an opinion at all. She can bear the consequences of her actions, whether they be positive or negative. Her choice.

As for a baby born from this, any child can have disadvantages even if born in a solid relationship.

As for the, "she's slept with 25 men" 😯, comments. Misogynistic prudes.
I'm a one man kind of woman but, if he wasn't around, I'd sleep with whoever and however many I see fit.

Mrsbloggz · 03/03/2025 17:20

I dont see a problem.
I think it's better to have a child by someone that you feel attracted to (rather than a sperm donor) as that points to immune system compatibility which will make for a healthier baby.

Imbusytodaysorry · 03/03/2025 17:15

Gogogo12345 · 03/03/2025 16:36

He wouldnt know the child existed or be on the birth certificate so your point is irrelevant

Edited

Did you read the full original post ?”
Two of the guys said they would like to keep in touch if she got pregnant”

my point is relevant.

JHound · 03/03/2025 17:14

GarlicStyle · 03/03/2025 16:46

I used to get tested every time I changed partners. I also carried on going every 3 months while I was married - because I take my sexual health seriously, I don't put it in the hands of any man.

If the kid wants to find out about her origins, there's a very good chance she'll find them via one of the public DNA banks. They're already vast and sure to grow even more in the next 20 years. She'll also be able to get her genetic profile from there.

But the point is getting tested only finds issues after the fact.

Having unprotected sex with lots of strange men increases the risk to her own sexual health - it’s baffling reckless.

Also some illnesses don’t show immediately (HIV) or can lie dormant (Herpes).

Just bonkers.

ERthree · 03/03/2025 17:12

As HIV can take up to 3 months from the sexual contact with a carrier to show positive i assume your friend is waiting a minimum of 14 weeks between sexual partners.

JHound · 03/03/2025 17:10

Hwi · 03/03/2025 15:38

I am against having sex before marriage, but in this case I think she is doing the absolutely right thing - she is in her 30s, fertility falling. And life is pointless without either biological or adopted kids for normal people (nuns and priests excluded as they have a higher meaning). All my clever female mates who either did not have or adopt children, deeply regret it now in their 40s. It is OK for men to dick around with this decision and then sprog off in their 60s, but our fertile age is very short. She is doing the right thing. She is honest and upfront and unlike some second wives on here who 'had have accidents' and then bemoan their elderly husbands do not engage with child rearing, she deceives nobody. Good luck to her and I hope she is successful in her plan.

That’s it.

The stupidest thing I have seen on the internet today.

Stupid and made up.

Trickedbyadoughnut · 03/03/2025 17:10

Well, the risk of HIV is pretty frightening for her.

For any children, the removal of anonymity for sperm donors was done for reasons that include studies showing that "adopted or donor-conceived children benefitted emotionally from knowing who their biological parents were regardless of whether they any contact with them" (https://www.spermdonation.nhs.uk/sperm-donation-and-the-law) and access to the genetic/medical history, which could literally be life-saving.

I feel so much sympathy for anyone who wants children and is struggling to have them for whatever reason. I do think that is such a terrible thing.

FannyCradocksDoughnut · 03/03/2025 17:07

"She reassured me that she does do STD tests and never puts herself at risk."

This doesn't make sense, how would she know what they are infected with if they're one night stands??? She's risking having to be treated for an STD while pregnant!

Naunet · 03/03/2025 17:07

user263758918 · 03/03/2025 16:55

Was going to say this exact thing.

As if she is honest with these men.

I've seen it twice, women saying "they can't get pregnant" to men on ONS so no protection is used and miraculously get pregnant.

A man did that to me when I was a teenager, told me he was infertile and said we didn't need a condom, I ended up pregnant. Amazingly no one ever accused him of trapping or tricking me, I still got all the blame, including from his mother (who also implied I was trapping him and pushed me into an abortion).

BansheeOfTheSouth · 03/03/2025 17:07

The sort of men she's taking home probably don't have a high sperm count if she's picking them up on their weekly binge drinking sessions, worse if they also smoke, and don't get tested. Her efforts are likely futile. She's hardly desperately trying either if it's been 25 men in a decade or more.

@Polkadotbikinininii At least suggest she takes PrEP before going out so she doesn't contract HIV. Up to her taking her chances with the other incurable STDs. She would be much better finding a regular (or several) fwb to maximise her conception chances. One night a week is unlikely to increase chances in her late 30s.

IButtleSir · 03/03/2025 17:06

beAsensible1 · 03/03/2025 15:39

Its not any different to using a sperm donor

It absolutely is. Sperm donors are vetted for STDs and genetic disorders, and any children their sperm produces are able to trace them when they turn 18.

NamelessNancy · 03/03/2025 17:05

Sounds like a perfect way to actively screen for the type of men who would make the worst possible fathers. Not to mention the STI risk.

Misaster · 03/03/2025 17:04

Polkadotbikinininii · 03/03/2025 17:03

Is it unusual to not have got pregnant having sex 25 times at (I presume) times that could be anywhere in your cycle over a few years?

I doubt she's planning it that precisely, or maybe she is?

I don't know. I got pregnant very quickly both times.

presumably she been timing this shags with her ovulation

MumonabikeE5 · 03/03/2025 17:04

Gogogo12345 · 03/03/2025 16:56

If you were TTC with a husband 25 occasions of sex is about twice a week for 3 months. Hardly likely to be referred to fertility clinic for yhst

I would have thought if pregnancy was her aim she’d concentrate her one night stands to the few days per month when conception could happen: so a much longer timeframe.

Polkadotbikinininii · 03/03/2025 17:03

Is it unusual to not have got pregnant having sex 25 times at (I presume) times that could be anywhere in your cycle over a few years?

I doubt she's planning it that precisely, or maybe she is?

I don't know. I got pregnant very quickly both times.

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LilacRaven · 03/03/2025 17:03

GarlicStyle · 03/03/2025 16:27

Some really odd replies here. You can go for STI tests as often as you want, she isn't going to be spreading disease or infecting a foetus. Sperm banks have a distinctly seedy side, with some donors fathering hundreds of kids, and 'unofficial' donor systems are even worse.

People don't usually go for a full battery of genetic tests before TTC, so she's running no greater risk there than any other woman ... plus, the commonest genetic disorders are de novo.

I wouldn't have tied this strongly to patriarchy but the feebleness of these objections is making me think it is all about protecting the male's control over female fertility.

There's a high risk of getting pregnant and an STI at the same time when you have unprotected sex with a stranger. Any stranger happily having unexpected casual sex is HIGH risk. Ita a selfish way to conceive.

Yea you can get an STI test after but it's a bit late then as baby has been exposed.

Cowabunga33 · 03/03/2025 17:02

Gogogo12345 · 03/03/2025 17:02

Why would it? Do all women fall pregnant after having sex a couple of times?

The majority are going to if there are no underlying issues……

APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 03/03/2025 17:02

I mean if men don’t want a baby they could just pop a condom on but so few seem to. Weird.

Ifs weird how many threads and posts there are on MN about people doing these stealth accidental pregnancies - it’s ALWAYS information obtained via a drunken confession to. Also weird.

Gogogo12345 · 03/03/2025 17:02

Cowabunga33 · 03/03/2025 17:00

I’m pretty sure if she’s done this over 25 times she cannot get pregnant for whatever reason, if she were fertile it would have happened the first couple of times so I would leave her to it personally………maybe there’s more to it she’s not telling you but then it’s really none of your business anyway……..

Why would it? Do all women fall pregnant after having sex a couple of times?

Misaster · 03/03/2025 17:01

Is she financially hard up Op?

what a tight arse

Cowabunga33 · 03/03/2025 17:00

I’m pretty sure if she’s done this over 25 times she cannot get pregnant for whatever reason, if she were fertile it would have happened the first couple of times so I would leave her to it personally………maybe there’s more to it she’s not telling you but then it’s really none of your business anyway……..

Polkadotbikinininii · 03/03/2025 17:00

Iateallthechocolate · 03/03/2025 16:49

2 consenting adults fine. Single parent by choice also fine. But it's not working so it might be better to go down the donor sperm route, also helpful as you can screen out inherited diseases. Up to her though.
What bothers me is your comment about the men being flattered by her attentions and not thinking straight enough to say no. You do seem to be thinking your friend is yukky but absolving the men for the same deed.
You could flip it around and say she's responding to her maternal body clock and not thinking straight, and the deadbeat men are taking advantage.

Good point. I do think think the men are stupid though and I don't understand why they would choose to risk a baby without having any interest in it. 😪

I do think she is probably honest with them but as others have said, even if she isn't, they have equal responsibility to manage contraception.

She's called a common name like Jane Smith and her job is something generic like receptionist. She doesn't really do much social media so it wouldn't be the easiest to find her. Plus I the more I think about it, the more I think she probably does it when she's away. I don't imagine any men will be looking for her after a one night stand anyway.

Maybe they should have the right to though? If, the next day they regret it and think they should support any child. That must be a bit rubbish as well, knowing you potentially have a baby.

OP posts:
Misaster · 03/03/2025 16:58

Gogogo12345 · 03/03/2025 16:56

If you were TTC with a husband 25 occasions of sex is about twice a week for 3 months. Hardly likely to be referred to fertility clinic for yhst

Plus approaching 40

Plus multiple men ie some will have very very high sperm counts and the dh in your scenario may not

plus that a few years ago she started having one night stands with the hope of getting pregnant.

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