To HATE the phrase "lived experience"?

I have only seen it used in health where it has a particular meaning.

Again, nonsense. If you’re autistic, you’re autistic. It’s not an experience! I don’t have experience of being female or right handed - I just am those things.

It’s a theoretical term with a specific meaning within academic research. It refers to the kind of knowledge that can be created as a result of direct involvement in something, rather than from indirect involvement. It’s a well established term, not just a fad. The examples you are giving to suggest it’s incorrect rely on it being used in a way that to would be unlikely to be used within research. So while you can technically make it sound strange or unnecessary, it’s mainly due to you using it on false premises.

It is precisely because people (professionals and relatives etc.) use the short hand "I have 10 years experience of autism / mental illness/disability etc. " that those with direct experience have needed to define their own experience as lived.
It's not simply a fad, it's a necessity. You can't police the language of others so you have to use your own language to make the distinction.

I'm a massage therapist.

In my experience, massage can really help reduce the symptoms of certain conditions (such as scoliosis, sciatica, chronic headaches).

I don't have any lived experience of the conditions listed, or how massage affects them. Only professional.

It would be totally wrong to say that the worker had experience of DV and the victim had lived experience of it. The worker, in this scenario, only has experience of supporting the victims of DV.

OK. To use this example, the worker would have experience of DV. In the many ways it can present, the impact on victims, just how manipulative abusers are. They would also understand why many women don't leave because of their personal experiences.

People who have no experience of it say things like, "Why don't the women just leave?" or, "But what did she do to provoke him?" Because they have no experience of it.

Last weekend, my partner and I went out. A woman who was nearby was being harassed by some bloke trying to get her to dance by pulling her and trying to take her drink from her. We stepped in and stopped him.

My partner has experience of that kind of thing happening. He has seen it happen before. He didn't think it was a one off or an unusual thing to happen.

I have personal experience of that kind of thing happening because it has happened to me.

In my experience - things I have witnessed (often enough times to have formed an opinion or noticed a recurring pattern).

In my personal experience - this happened to me.

Better still, if you’ve been a rape victim you’ve experienced rape.

Anyone who claims they've experienced homophobia/racism etc simply through witnessing it being directed at someone else, without ever having had it directed at them, is a dickhead if the highest order. They've witnessed it; the victim has experienced it.

I'm with OP on this. My experience is because I've lived it so therefore it's lived by definition.

It’s an oxymoron, focus on moron.

If I have been a rape victim then I have experience of rape. You could also call it lived experience.

If I'm a support worker of rape victims then I only have experience of working with rape victims. That role and the work involved didn't give me experience of rape.

I think experience is the same as lived experience.

When 'lived experience' takes precedence over other sorts, it is a version of standpoint epistemology. I am by no means an expert by Kathleen Stock dismantles it nicely in her book Material Girls.

It annoys the hell out of me. Lived experience = anecdote and the plural of that, as we know, is not data. Thus a terrible basis for policy decisions.

Personal can mean your neighbour or your sister though.

There are different ways to have experience or be experienced in relation to an issue.

Eg, I have experience of cardiology through training and clinical practice. I have no lived experience of actually having a heart problem. Both types of experience can be relevant.

Used to be that we'd add the word "personal", job done.

You'd have experience of teaching autistic pupils. The pupils would have experience of being autistic. No need for the word 'lived' anywhere.

I think I agree and disagree.

Lived experience has a specific meaning which was an academic term. It's now being used widely and it sounds a bit wanky.

I just find I'm getting old and gen z language changes are fast and overuse words to sound clever. For example, iconic. This is now so overused it has lost its meaning.

“In my experience, (having examined patients with spots)….”
”in my experience (reading many peer reviewed papers on spots)…”
”In my lived experience (of having spots)…”

We have lived through a global pandemic, but we didn't all experience it.
Lived experience isn't a fad phrase. It's used in Social Sciene, MH care, etc.
So yes, lived experience is a defined thing. You are wrong, not just unreasonable

Well you have a lived experience of a cruise, so yes. Surely it’s not that difficult to work out how some experiences can only occur through being lived, and others are second hand experiences. You don’t understand something and that’s ok. Most people make n effort to learn about things they don’t understand rather than just repeating that they don’t understand it though.

OP doesn't want to understand it.... I'm off. Enjoy! 😁