Middle-aged professional women doing drugs on the weekend

I’m really contemptuous of middle class adults taking drugs at social occasions. Thinking you’re all so liberal, so environmentally aware and conscious of poverty and social disparity. Then pretending to be living dangerously at the weekends while simultaneously panicking at the thought of having to live anywhere near a council estate or that you’ll have to send your precious darlings to the same school as kids who qualify for free school meals if you can’t afford the school fees. The addicts might be directly responsible for higher levels of crime than your friends, Max and Caroline, in their modernised Victorian terrace, but fuck me, they’re far more honest about life than you lot are. And they’ve usually got more of a reason for wanting to block life out as well. Your hypocrisy is repugnant.

And I cannot imagine a more stupid and ill thought out idea than legalising drugs. If it’s worked abroad, it’s because possession for personal use has been decriminalised, so addicts are less likely to face long term employment issues due to a conviction for possession and they’ll be more likely to seek medical help if required, and the State has spent a ton of money improving detox facilities. We can’t afford to send ambulances out for pensioners laying on a rainy pavement with a broken hip, or people who want to commit suicide. You think we can afford to fund detox for addicts who don’t want to get clean? Or a ton of civil servants to monitor supply chains?

And all these criminals quite happy to break the law to make serious cash by smuggling their drugs into the country, cutting it with Christ knows what to make it go further, and forcing kids into selling it for them are not suddenly going to become law abiding citizens, complying with tax and import duty as well as spending their profits to improve production quality requirements so it can be distributed safely 🤦‍♀️ They’re not going to give up their livelihoods and get a job in the local supermarket, or start again from scratch smuggling into a different country. They’re going to continue smuggling it in, and cutting it even more so they can undercut legal ways of purchasing it. And gang members are never going to stop looking for the easiest way to make as much cash as possible.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/07/07/portugal-drugs-decriminalization-heroin-crack/ and https://www.politico.eu/article/why-portland-failed-where-portugal-succeeded-in-decriminalizing-drugs/ Surprise, addicts aren’t staying in their homes to take their drugs. They’re smoking and injecting in the street and outside primary schools. Fancy climbing over an unconscious addict on your way into your Pilates class? Or having your five year old wandering over to you in the park with a crack pipe in their hand to ask what it is?

It’s not working that well in BC either https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68621012

And legalising cannabis didn’t work too well in Ecuador or Thailand.

You misunderstand. People claim that cannabis is "harmless" in comparison to alcohol consumption. (qv)
Neither substance is harmless, however, those who compare taking cannabis to having one drink and suggesting that the former is less harmful than the latter, are ill informed.

Perhaps presumptuous, but you never hear middle aged supermarket workers or taxi drivers or delivery drivers or call centre workers bragging about having had a crafty couple of lines at their friend’s dinner party, do you?

Definitely not off topic. Part of the reason it’s so pathetic is that these people do everything they can to prevent that world from coming anywhere near their little bubble, until they want a bit of safe excitement, and then all of a sudden, they’re all for it, and fuck the people it hurts. The hypocrisy is sickening.

They didn't even acknowledge she was referencing a vape brand in their hurry to mock. It's not 'if' it was meant. It absolutely is what she meant, it's written "Mary Jane vapes". It is cringey to try and mock someone where in fact you're (the reader) the one who doesn't know that they're a thing. Also,they are not a standard vape.

I don’t see what is particularly cringy about that. There are millions of brands of vaporisers. It’s not common for people to know the brands of weed vapes going around. And op didn’t correct anyone anyway if that is what she meant.

@WilfredsPies you have gone on a rant here about middle class people that is presumptuous and off topic.

I'm cringing at the folks mocking the OP for saying Mary Jane vapes. They're so out of the loop that they don't know that they're a brand of vapes not just a reference to back in the day.

I’m really contemptuous of middle class adults taking drugs at social occasions. Thinking you’re all so liberal, so environmentally aware and conscious of poverty and social disparity. Then pretending to be living dangerously at the weekends while simultaneously panicking at the thought of having to live anywhere near a council estate or that you’ll have to send your precious darlings to the same school as kids who qualify for free school meals if you can’t afford the school fees. The addicts might be directly responsible for higher levels of crime than your friends, Max and Caroline, in their modernised Victorian terrace, but fuck me, they’re far more honest about life than you lot are. And they’ve usually got more of a reason for wanting to block life out as well. Your hypocrisy is repugnant.

And I cannot imagine a more stupid and ill thought out idea than legalising drugs. If it’s worked abroad, it’s because possession for personal use has been decriminalised, so addicts are less likely to face long term employment issues due to a conviction for possession and they’ll be more likely to seek medical help if required, and the State has spent a ton of money improving detox facilities. We can’t afford to send ambulances out for pensioners laying on a rainy pavement with a broken hip, or people who want to commit suicide. You think we can afford to fund detox for addicts who don’t want to get clean? Or a ton of civil servants to monitor supply chains?

And all these criminals quite happy to break the law to make serious cash by smuggling their drugs into the country, cutting it with Christ knows what to make it go further, and forcing kids into selling it for them are not suddenly going to become law abiding citizens, complying with tax and import duty as well as spending their profits to improve production quality requirements so it can be distributed safely 🤦‍♀️ They’re not going to give up their livelihoods and get a job in the local supermarket, or start again from scratch smuggling into a different country. They’re going to continue smuggling it in, and cutting it even more so they can undercut legal ways of purchasing it. And gang members are never going to stop looking for the easiest way to make as much cash as possible.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/07/07/portugal-drugs-decriminalization-heroin-crack/ and https://www.politico.eu/article/why-portland-failed-where-portugal-succeeded-in-decriminalizing-drugs/ Surprise, addicts aren’t staying in their homes to take their drugs. They’re smoking and injecting in the street and outside primary schools. Fancy climbing over an unconscious addict on your way into your Pilates class? Or having your five year old wandering over to you in the park with a crack pipe in their hand to ask what it is?

It’s not working that well in BC either https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68621012

And legalising cannabis didn’t work too well in Ecuador or Thailand.

Same. I believe the younger generation do this too - very understandable as I truly have no idea how a broke 20-something in London could even afford to get tipsy these days except at home.

I remember the first time I went clubbing, doing MDMA and only having one beer all night. Not a trace of a hangover the next day. Of all the things I've ever done, overdoing booze makes you feel the worst by a mile.

So I think, most people on this thread agree. Drugs should be legalised and distributed safely - eliminating the abuse of children (county lines) and regulating safety. Win win. Many other countries do this. It’s time we did too

So I think, most people on this thread agree. Drugs should be legalised and distributed safely - eliminating the abuse of children (county lines) and regulating safety. Win win. Many other countries do this. It’s time we did too

Where does it say she's fuming?

Where does it say she's fuming?

Why is OP fuming about the Mary Jane vapes?

I'm cringing at the folks mocking the OP for saying Mary Jane vapes. They're so out of the loop that they don't know that they're a brand of vapes not just a reference to back in the day.

@Scrubberdubber What about the people in other countries who are affected including children who live in absolute poverty and have nothing with very little education. I wouldn’t really call those people “little shits” for getting involved when you see the circumstances they are faced with. Everyone in the uk is extremely privileged in comparison

No one said they are cute and innocent- they have experienced trauma, poverty and exploitation. Hence how they have ended up drug dealers. You may have encountered many of these kids growing up in the same environment but you don't know their stories or understand the underlying causes of the behaviour.