Middle-aged professional women doing drugs on the weekend

Back in the 90s and 00s, there were two groups: those who drank to excess as lads and ladettes, and those who did clubbed and did drugs, mostly ecstasy and similar. The two groups barely met.. I was part of the former gang and it’s interesting to see that many still drink to excess and in some cases, are reformed or binge alcoholics now. (I only socially drink now but am unusual).

So to answer your question, you’re seeing the grownups from this era, reverting to type. You’ve just stumbled into the “other half” of the equation that was always there.

YANBU. I think it’s becoming more common in some circles, not in others.

Personally I think it’s selfish and very socially irresponsible - illegal drug use, particularly cocaine, has an awful impact on working class kids, women, leads to other crime, has ruined South America etc. Makes me laugh when leftie newspaper writers go on about “social injustice” when I know for a fact many such journos do cocaine at weekends.

I was at a party recently; I went to bed about 2am after which ketamine came out and the hostess called a coke dealer to the house. I had no problem telling my friend exactly what I thought of this behaviour the following day.

Time was, most people would be horrified at the thought of associating with criminals or having drug dealers come to their house. I still am.

Sadly we live in very different times today.

Three glasses? Absolute madheads.

Ah yes because only young unprofessional men can have fun

Plus those who compare cannabis to alcohol use aren't comparing like to like. One glass of wine isn't as harmful as one spliff. People compare it to being alcoholics.

@bluh

I don’t care if people drink or don’t drink, take drugs or don’t take drugs. It just screams uneducated to cry about the difference when there isn’t one

The supply chain is hugely different.

Kids aren't getting involved in county lines to get wine or beer or spirits to the end user are they?

And the middle class mums and dads who 'dabble' would be horrified if it was their kids getting sucked into county lines.

It's really hypocritical.

The key difference is that drugs are illegal so to get hold of them people are supporting an often violent and exploitative supply chain.

In response to OP, no it's not normal amongst my friends.

there were also Mary Jane vapes

A what?

I guess I don't pop down to Vape Nation and ask for one of these. 🤷‍♀️

Same 😂😂

Ha I try and avoid caffeine after lunchtime. You're a rebel to me!

I know 😊

This is the sort of nonsense my daughter's upper class friends would spout when they were teenagers, thinking that they would impress people and sound grown-up 😂Is it still the school holidays?

I don't know; a quick Google suggests county lines is used for weed and mdma as well but how prevalent it is vs coke etc I'm not sure.

I knew plenty of people using coke and ecstasy when I was in my 20s. Don’t know anyone doing them now in our 30s.most have small kids now though.

This has got Daily Mail researcher written all over it.

in fact there was an article on there last week using very similarly odd vocabulary. The kind that only exists in newspaper articles

Where were the keys kept?🤔

The differences between alcohol and drugs like heroin/crack:

• the vast majority of people manage to consume some alcohol without it taking over their lives.
• even among those who drink more than they should, many are "functioning" and hold down homes and jobs

Heroin addicts (& other opioids like fentanyl), crack users, meth heads, tend to wind up homeless & completely unable to care for themselves, work, or handle the demands of normal life (like children). The highly addictive nature of the drugs means people resort to crime & prostitution to get a fix.

I can't possibly see how these drugs can ever be legalised.

Yeah, you're too young! 😁

The rave generation are 40s-60s now.

It's pathetic in all honesty. And how casual use causes long term use. I've sort of split with my bf recently for becoming a iv cocaine addict simply starting as 'occasional user'. Hopefully he attends the NA meeting tomorrow. But yes I am.a boring sod I don't drink and I've never even touched a drug except the one that grows in the ground which I used for a short period. I just take my adhd meds concerta and methylphenidate.

I don’t know anyone who does this and I’m in my 30s. I have a small child and have no interest. I know plenty of people who smoke “Mary Jane” at weekends. I don’t think it’s any worse than drinking and feel it should be legalised actually.

I imagine they're the type of people who have always done drugs. I have one friendship group who still dabble now and then, simply because drugs have always been part of their social life.
Some of us lost interest after our teens/early 20s and of course, many have never touched drugs.

My friends drink but not to excess. Ive never seen drugs being done and no one talks openly about having done it in the past. All early 40s, mix of lawyers, accountants/finance, doctors, architects.

Elvanse adhd meds lol - legal and least you no what's in them lol

Evorel conti, oil of evening primrose and the stuff Claudia Winkleman advertises on the telly (for the really daring. Wouldn't touch it myself.)

When I told ok drugs in the 90s, most of it didn't come through gangs. Quite a lot of it can't from old hippies, it was a cottage industry. We used to get speed one person away from someone who made it at home, similarly the acid came from old hippies, who had friends who made it, some of the ecstacy via Holland where it was legal (this was the first to get taken over by the gangs AFAIK) and the ketamine was brough into the UK in small amounts from countries where it was legal to buy it in pharmacies by the people who sold it to their mates - no gangs involved. And for a long time Ketamine wasn't even illegal.

I'm totally out of touch now so I have no idea where the drugs come from these days. The hippies who are still with us are mostly too old for that kind of malarkey I would imagine. And I can well see how gangs would move in on this.

Having said that, I always assumed county lines was mainly the hard core stuff like crack / coke / heroin, isn't it?

The quickest way to get rid of drug gangs is to legalise and treat addiction as a health issue not a crime. Especially weed - make it legal for people to grow small amounts at home, then it's totally pure and zero money to drug gangs.