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Middle-aged professional women doing drugs on the weekend

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Snookerfan · 02/03/2025 22:12

Is this common now? I was invited to a house party Saturday night and snow was being done quite openly, there were also Mary Jane vapes and Ecstasy passed around.

These were mainly mothers with adult grown sensible families. What is going on, am I totally not with it?

Was it always this way or is this scene infiltrating a different demographic now?

We always knew people like this did this, but was it this open and accepted?

I didn’t partake, still a great night.

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Deedeesharpwhatkindoflady · 03/03/2025 12:48

Mrsbloggz · 03/03/2025 12:46

Cannabis is legal in the UK and easy to obtain.

Don't be so stupid
Weed is illegal in the UK.
I'm a former amphetamine user of 20 years,it was easy to obtain didn't make it legal.

TheIceBear · 03/03/2025 12:47

KatyaKabanova · 03/03/2025 12:44

I never said you weren't entitled to challenge my posts.

You keep reminding me you were talking to another poster. I don’t care. Regardless of how many peer reviewed articles you have read, It’s pointless comparing 1 joint to 1 glass of wine. You may as well compare 1 bottle of wine to 1 or 2 puffs of a spliff. It’s all relative.

Mrsbloggz · 03/03/2025 12:46

Deedeesharpwhatkindoflady · 03/03/2025 12:44

Well prohibition isn't going anywhere in the UK.
Doesn't alter the fact a little girl was murdered over the heads of cannabis and money.

Cannabis is legal in the UK and easy to obtain.

Mrsbloggz · 03/03/2025 12:45

Deedeesharpwhatkindoflady · 03/03/2025 12:42

I read a book called Kilo,it follows the process from leaf to powder and it's journey before exportation.
It destroys eco structure,destroys villages,murder, torture, prostitution.
It's not a victimless process.

The problems that you describe are due to the fact that cocaine use is prohibited.

Deedeesharpwhatkindoflady · 03/03/2025 12:44

Mrsbloggz · 03/03/2025 12:41

That's not an argument against cannabis, that's an argument against prohibition of cannabis!

Well prohibition isn't going anywhere in the UK.
Doesn't alter the fact a little girl was murdered over the heads of cannabis and money.

KatyaKabanova · 03/03/2025 12:44

TheIceBear · 03/03/2025 12:42

it is a forum and I am entitled to challenge your posts regardless of who they are aimed at.

I never said you weren't entitled to challenge my posts.

Scrubberdubber · 03/03/2025 12:43

Leeto888 · 03/03/2025 11:47

If you think I have no experience of this then you are wrong. You have stomped onto this thread aggressively assuming you are the only person on mumsnet with any real life experience. You are wrong. If you are happy with your life and the way you have decided to learn it crack on. Nobody is stopping you. However if yoh think you can make people stop voicing their own opinions by shouting them down and being aggressive, think again. That may work with some people. It doesn’t work with me.

I haven't been aggressive or assumed I'm the only one with no experience? Where have I been aggressive. You've been quite aggressive if anything on this thread a lot of your comments are just you trying to guilt trip middle aged woman who enjoy the occasion line of coke because "young boys being exploited" all I've said is most of those "young boys" know exactly what they're doing that's why the age of criminal responsibility is 10 and half of them would attack you for looking at them.

I mean of course you're right buying drugs does encourage the drug trade but if you think bitching about how middle aged professional woman should refrain from enjoying the occasional line of a week end is going to make up for all the actual addicts buying heroin multiple times a day then idk what to say.

Of course there's fucked up shit going on in the world because of the drug trade but you're going to have a hard time convincing me to feel sorry for teenage boys doing "county lines" when I became a mother at 15, most of those kids know exactly what they're doing and aren't all cute and innocent just my opinion which you keep wanting to shout down 🤷🏻‍♀️

TheIceBear · 03/03/2025 12:42

KatyaKabanova · 03/03/2025 12:41

I have not provided you with a convincing argument? Read my posts. I haven't provided you with data or extensive training, either.
For the 4th time - I was challenging a poster. Not giving you my doctoral thesis.
I'm sure that you are capable enough to consult evidenced and peer reviewed articles., as I have.

it is a forum and I am entitled to challenge your posts regardless of who they are aimed at.

Deedeesharpwhatkindoflady · 03/03/2025 12:42

Mielikki · 03/03/2025 12:37

Maybe compare the supply chains of prosecco and cocaine before deciding which is more harmful.

I read a book called Kilo,it follows the process from leaf to powder and it's journey before exportation.
It destroys eco structure,destroys villages,murder, torture, prostitution.
It's not a victimless process.

KatyaKabanova · 03/03/2025 12:41

TheIceBear · 03/03/2025 12:39

I don’t know where you received your training but it certainly hasn’t provided you with convincing arguments. I have researched thanks. Look how many cannabis related deaths are there every year in the uk compared to alcohol related ones for example

I have not provided you with a convincing argument? Read my posts. I haven't provided you with data or extensive training, either.
For the 4th time - I was challenging a poster. Not giving you my doctoral thesis.
I'm sure that you are capable enough to consult evidenced and peer reviewed articles., as I have.

Mrsbloggz · 03/03/2025 12:41

Deedeesharpwhatkindoflady · 03/03/2025 12:37

The cannabis is less harmful argument falls flat when considering innocent people have been caught up in gang warfare and been murdered.Liverpool shootings spring to mind.
Weed dealing in this country is big business not some stoner selling a bit to supplement his own puff habit.

That's not an argument against cannabis, that's an argument against prohibition of cannabis!

TheIceBear · 03/03/2025 12:40

Deedeesharpwhatkindoflady · 03/03/2025 12:37

The cannabis is less harmful argument falls flat when considering innocent people have been caught up in gang warfare and been murdered.Liverpool shootings spring to mind.
Weed dealing in this country is big business not some stoner selling a bit to supplement his own puff habit.

People growing their own small amounts for personal use doesn’t harm anyone. Plus it’s legal in many countries now. This makes your argument fall flat.

Mrsbloggz · 03/03/2025 12:40

Alcohol is very harmful, the ratio of toxicity to in toxicity is particularly bad.
However trying to ban it would be fruitless, it's occurs spontaneously in nature, anyone can make it for themselves!
Cannabis is also pretty easy to grow, ditto opium poppies I expect, although I've not tried them but I do remember a friend telling me that she had smoked opium from an opium poppy.

KatyaKabanova · 03/03/2025 12:39

@Mielikki and @Deedeesharpwhatkindoflady
Very good points.

TheIceBear · 03/03/2025 12:39

KatyaKabanova · 03/03/2025 12:35

I think you misunderstand.
I have explained that I was challenging a previous poster. I have had to have training and inform myself because of my line of work.
Don't believe it. Fine. Do your own research.

I don’t know where you received your training but it certainly hasn’t provided you with convincing arguments. I have researched thanks. Look how many cannabis related deaths are there every year in the uk compared to alcohol related ones for example

Deedeesharpwhatkindoflady · 03/03/2025 12:37

The cannabis is less harmful argument falls flat when considering innocent people have been caught up in gang warfare and been murdered.Liverpool shootings spring to mind.
Weed dealing in this country is big business not some stoner selling a bit to supplement his own puff habit.

Mielikki · 03/03/2025 12:37

Bluh · 02/03/2025 23:16

I find it really interesting that alcohol is practically a national pastime. Yet drugs taken recreationally, which time and time again have been proven to be not as harmful, are vilified. It’s a bizarre and uneducated position to take

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Maybe compare the supply chains of prosecco and cocaine before deciding which is more harmful.

KatyaKabanova · 03/03/2025 12:35

TheIceBear · 03/03/2025 12:33

You haven’t provided any evidence that 1 spliff is more harmful than 1 glass of wine. And elaborated on the type of harm you are referring to

I think you misunderstand.
I have explained that I was challenging a previous poster. I have had to have training and inform myself because of my line of work.
Don't believe it. Fine. Do your own research.

TheIceBear · 03/03/2025 12:33

KatyaKabanova · 03/03/2025 12:32

I think you misunderstand: the BBC article is not the sum of my evidence.
That is all.
Please don't get personal. I haven't with you.
Thank You.

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You haven’t provided any evidence that 1 spliff is more harmful than 1 glass of wine. And elaborated on the type of harm you are referring to

KatyaKabanova · 03/03/2025 12:32

TheIceBear · 03/03/2025 12:31

A bbc article ? Sorry but you sound ridiculous. There are plenty of academic articles about how harmful alcohol is in comparison to cannabis. You sound like you have no knowledge of cannabis at all actually.

I think you misunderstand: the BBC article is not the sum of my evidence.
That is all.
Please don't get personal. I haven't with you.
Thank You.

TheIceBear · 03/03/2025 12:31

KatyaKabanova · 03/03/2025 12:30

I don't rely on googling articles.
I rely on the training I've received and the well researched and peer reviewed articles which I have read.

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A bbc article ? Sorry but you sound ridiculous. There are plenty of academic articles about how harmful alcohol is in comparison to cannabis. You sound like you have no knowledge of cannabis at all actually.

allfurcoatnoknickers · 03/03/2025 12:30

I live somewhere where cannabis is legal and lots of the mums I know do partake. I brought my friend fancy edibles the other day instead of a bottle of wine!

KatyaKabanova · 03/03/2025 12:30

TheIceBear · 03/03/2025 12:28

@KatyaKabanova there are plenty of articles that cannabis is less harmful than alcohol when you google it. I don’t even use cannabis myself, I don’t like it. I do think alcohol is a lot more harmful in most ways though. That’s why I’m challenging your “a spliff is more harmful than a glass of wine” comment. It’s just vague.

I don't rely on googling articles.
I rely on the training I've received and the well researched and peer reviewed articles which I have read.

TheIceBear · 03/03/2025 12:28

@KatyaKabanova there are plenty of articles that cannabis is less harmful than alcohol when you google it. I don’t even use cannabis myself, I don’t like it. I do think alcohol is a lot more harmful in most ways though. That’s why I’m challenging your “a spliff is more harmful than a glass of wine” comment. It’s just vague.

KatyaKabanova · 03/03/2025 12:25

TheIceBear · 03/03/2025 12:24

you haven’t really convinced me of your argument with 1 bbc article about teenagers smoking cannabis. I don’t think anyone is trying to be “cool”. No drug is harmless yet less people seem bothered by the “wine o clock” narrative than other drugs.

I never claimed that 1 BBC article was the sum of the supporting evidence.