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My chocolate cakes are always shit - pls help

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Corta · 02/03/2025 20:08

I have tried 4/5 chocolate cake recipes. And they always end up shit. I am a competent cook/don’t bake too often but most things turn out well. I measure out the ingredients. My oven is decent. The cakes always end up a bitter and bland. The Nigella recipe with the sour cream was not eatable.

What chocolate do you use if actual chocolate is required. I buy the good stuff - 70% green and blacks as specified.

Son would like a homemade chocolate cake for his birthday but it’s causing me so much anxiety.

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dottydodah · 04/03/2025 12:48

1960s chocolate cake .Featured online under chocolate cakes .uses cocoa powder and evaporated milk .Not really like a gateau ,more of an old fashioned chocolate cake .Comes out well

Objectionhearsayspeculation · 04/03/2025 12:36

I use @tattoonewbie link but melt vegan butter (my favourite is the block naturli) instead of oil. You could also melt ordinary butter instead if not wanting to use oil. (We are multi allergy household so lots of subs) and it's so lovely and really moist and chocolatey. I also bake it in the airfryer

Bikergran · 04/03/2025 12:27

Corta · 02/03/2025 20:08

I have tried 4/5 chocolate cake recipes. And they always end up shit. I am a competent cook/don’t bake too often but most things turn out well. I measure out the ingredients. My oven is decent. The cakes always end up a bitter and bland. The Nigella recipe with the sour cream was not eatable.

What chocolate do you use if actual chocolate is required. I buy the good stuff - 70% green and blacks as specified.

Son would like a homemade chocolate cake for his birthday but it’s causing me so much anxiety.

It's bitter because you're using the 70% stuff. For a sweeter chocolate cake that kids will like, use your standard Victoria sponge recipe, but substitute 2 tbsp of drinking chocolate powder for 1 tbsp of the flour. Sift it with the flour before mixing. If the final mixture seems too dry or stiff, add a very little milk.

Cushionseams · 04/03/2025 12:25

I don't have a recipe to share, but for a good moist chocolate cake the key ingredients are yoghurt, coffee, cocoa powder, using half oil and either butter or margarine. And some melted chocolate - it doesn't have to be top quality at all. I'd use that alongside a standard sponge recipe.

Rachierach11 · 04/03/2025 12:15

RIPVPROG · 02/03/2025 20:21

Mary Berry's is fool proof

I don't bother with the apricot jam but I have used a good cherry jam with success. I've also done it with whipped cream and cherry jam in the middle and the ganache on top, like a black forest cake rather than gateaux.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/chocolate_cake_48307

Yep this is what I make for my kids and it's never gone wrong yet. The boiling water really helps to stop it drying out. I usually put Nutella in the middle and on the top and then cover it in smarties for birthdays

Maggiethecat · 02/03/2025 22:12

Only cocoa powder (good quality) in the cake which is moist but dark chocolate used in the ganache and buttercream mixture adds that extra chocolatey oomph!

My chocolate cakes are always shit - pls help
Hayley1256 · 02/03/2025 22:07

I'm a good Baker but always struggle with a choc cake. Instead I buy the Betty Crocker Devils food Cake Mix and some of her chocolate fudge frosting, then decorated with the persons fave chocolates.

This cake never fails and people are always surprised when I tell them its a Betty Crocker Mix!

charmanderflame · 02/03/2025 22:04

Corta · 02/03/2025 21:15

ive tried a couple of Nigellas and a few of bbc good food. All labelled “the best choc cake in the multiverse” and they’re anything but!

ive done some which use only cocoa powder, some with melted choc. Some that use oil/buttermilk/sour cream. You name it!

What is it that you don't like about the ones you have made so far?

Maggiethecat · 02/03/2025 22:03

WildCherryBlossom · 02/03/2025 21:56

Green and Blacks is lovely stuff but it's eating chocolate, not cooking chocolate. Get something designed for cooking.

But use Green and Black cocoa powder

Yourinmyspot · 02/03/2025 22:03

I use coco powder to make chocolate cakes. I always make DD one for her birthday. I replace 2oz of the flour for coco powder so I use 4oz flour and 2oz cocci powder. I also add coco powder to the buttercream and icing.

TeenLifeMum · 02/03/2025 22:02

Hankunamatata · 02/03/2025 20:45

Never use chocolate in the sponge just good quality cocoa powder

This!

Although I find it is sometimes dry so I add oil and/or an extra egg than I would with a Victoria sponge.

alternatively I use a pack of Betty crocker’s devil cake. Never fails but I feel naughty cheating (mum used to professionally make cakes).

Maggiethecat · 02/03/2025 22:02

One Dd bucked family tradition of sponge cake for birthday, wanting chocolate and I tried various recipes for years to do her a decent one but always came up short although I’m a very able baker.

Thankfully I finally found this one which is really quick and easy - see video and there’s a downloadable metric recipe. Make sure to use good quality cocoa powder.

I make a 2 tier cake but baking in one tin and then cutting baked cake in half (measurements and timings adjusted accordingly - PM me if you’d like info). I bake sponges like this too so that there is a ‘cut’ rather than baked surface on each half of the cake to soak up the sandwich filling.

Finally, I didn’t use her buttercream frosting although it’s probably very good. I do a mixture of buttercream and ganache for a really chocolatey filling and to cover the cake.

Mix of buttercream and ganache
Buttercream
140g soft butter
50g cocoa powder(sift)
200g icing sugar (sift)
2 tbsp milk
Mix ingredients until creamy

Ganache (Nigella’s recipe)
150ml double cream
150g dark chocolate
2tbsp icing sugar
Add ingredients on hob, whisking when chocolate melting

Combine butter cream and ganache; use very generous layer to sandwich halved cake then rest to cover cake

Have never considered another recipe after this one!

m.youtube.com/watch?v=dsJtgmAhFF4&pp=ygUiTW9zdCBhbWF6aW5nIGNob2NvbGF0ZSBjYWtlIHJlY2lwZQ%3D%3D

DilemmaDelilah · 02/03/2025 22:00

Sssshhhhh - don't tell anyone! Wright's chocolate cake mix. Delicious and it comes out perfectly every time. Unlike @Circumferences I find ganache dead easy to make and use. Chocolate orange is a big favourite in our house.

fruitpastille · 02/03/2025 21:58

Keep it simple and just do an all in one sponge with an extra ounce of cocoa powder. Sandwich with chocolate buttercream plus some on top then stick a load of malteasers, minstrels, chocolate sprinkles and glitter on. That's what I have done for the last couple of my kids birthdays.

WildCherryBlossom · 02/03/2025 21:58

And agree with others that most successful chocolate cakes involve boiling water at some point. I can't remember the science but it activates the chocolate somehow,

WildCherryBlossom · 02/03/2025 21:56

Green and Blacks is lovely stuff but it's eating chocolate, not cooking chocolate. Get something designed for cooking.

StiggyZardust · 02/03/2025 21:52

I always make Jamie Oliver's party cake. I use Bournville chocolate.

GivingUpFinally · 02/03/2025 21:51

You may be burning, over baking, and scorching it. Chocolate cake needs to be taken out as soon as it's ready. Too got an oven will ha e the same effect.

NImumconfused · 02/03/2025 21:41

RIPVPROG · 02/03/2025 20:21

Mary Berry's is fool proof

I don't bother with the apricot jam but I have used a good cherry jam with success. I've also done it with whipped cream and cherry jam in the middle and the ganache on top, like a black forest cake rather than gateaux.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/chocolate_cake_48307

This is the one I've always used and it's lovely.

ThereIsATInWater · 02/03/2025 21:40

This cake recipe is brilliant, a very wet mix, but lovely and rich and moist.

DandelionSmoke · 02/03/2025 21:38

If none of the above work for you and you are driven mad, get a Betty Crocker Devils Food Cake mix. It's 100% foolproof. My kids can do it and it's absolutely gorgeous, so light, moist and tasty. It might just get you through this if it's stressing you out. It's nicer than all the chocolate cakes I've tried making and I'm a decent baker. All you do is add eggs, water and oil to the cake mix and whisk.

Needapadlockonmyfridge · 02/03/2025 21:36

This one is a doddle , never fails. Moist, chocolatey and so easy.

www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/naughty-chocolate-fudge-cake

Maggiethecat · 02/03/2025 21:32

Diningtableornot · 02/03/2025 21:20

We’ll have to agreed to differ on this one! Cooking the butter and sugar together is transformative. But I recognise the sort of dry gritty texture you can get with flour and cocoa powder.

Use good quality cocoa powder and oil in the recipe. Very moist cake here.

EsmeGythaMagrat · 02/03/2025 21:32

Lorraine Pascal’s I just don’t give a damn chocolate cake recipe is my go to.
Alternatively, there was a thread a while back, where someone had their allotment stolen… she posted a recipe to chocolate cake in that which sounded tremendous.

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