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Due to give birth tomorrow and dp has said ...

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Onedayaway · 02/03/2025 19:50

That he has no money!

To not drip feed, dp started up his own business beginning of this year. I don't want to talk bad about him but I expressed my concerns on leaving a stable job to pursue independent work (with no savings to back him) when he knew I was pregnant. Of course I was called unsupportive and pessimistic for saying this and after a lot of arguments I realised he was never going to see reason.

Lone behold dp left his job and started up his own. It was okay for a short while but very quickly the work dried up with not enough reliable cliental to see him through the winter. This meant us solely surviving off my money (I worked part time and earned very little). This put me in financial predicaments but I felt like I couldn't complain because dp was already feeling stressed and like a "failure" for the lack of work.

Now coming up to the due date dp took on a massive job. It was meant to cover his paternity leave as we knew I was going to have an ELC and with an already small DC it would need all hands on deck for the first couple of weeks. It was all looking great, until it wasn't. He started falling behind on this job, issues arise, money goes scarce. Now he is in a situation where he genuinely can not afford to finish the job (think labour based) as he needs more materials/tools. The client doesn't know this and is wondering why the job isnt getting done.

I keep asking dp, who is being very overtly down and sensitive about this all, what is going on. When it came to talking figures on how much he needed to finish the job it went from oh a couple hundred, to when I finally pinned him to down to work out the numbers rather than guess, much over a grand! As a saving grace dp managed to secure another job in the meantime which was meant to save us and fill his pockets to complete this job, however now he has just told me that actually most of this money is going towards outstanding invoices/loans he has, meaning effectively the money is out before it comes in!

This basically means he won't have any money, I get very little which I've nearly used up to cover our living expenses and bills, and my head is swimming. I'm meant to be giving birth tomorrow and I don't even know what to do. It's bad enough with the nerves/anxiety having to get my head around the ELC but now adding this to the picture I'm struggling to not have a full blown panic attack. Dp has gone into feeling sorry for himself mode, so there will be no talking to him there and if I do I must tread lightly otherwise I risk him shutting down completely.

He plans to try and finish off the job throughout the next month, once he communicates to the client about the financial delay and hopes that the client can cover the cost. In the meantime this means I'll be home alone, after major op, with two under 5. I have support for the first week from my dparents and then that's it. Dp knew this and I kept stressing to him that if his work was to go over time to try and only have it extend for another week. Every time I spoke to him it was a "yes I'm nearly finished" "not long now" "I've just got to x y z" and yet here we are.

What do I do?! I feel like having a breakdown!!!!!

OP posts:
mathanxiety · 02/03/2025 21:23

MumWifeOther · 02/03/2025 20:29

That is a very short term solution and doesn’t consider hers or her children’s feelings. Shit happens. Bad shit happens. It’s not always the end.

Yes, perhaps it will limp on another few years until the OP feels strong enough and not a zombie from tiredness to pack up and leave him to the mess he will continue to create.

This isn't shit that just happened to happen. It was predicted by the OP, but he wouldn't listen, and now when she is at her most vulnerable point, he dumps the problem on her. Now he is the victim in need of rescue and her surgery and recovery must take second place to his chaos. Neatly done.

Again, this is a chaos maker, a man who derives satisfaction from seeing terror and distress in his partner, that arises from his gross irresponsibility. He is creating nightmarish financial instability (which means food and housing insecurity for the OP and her baby and toddler). He has dropped this bombshell the day before she is to undergo major abdominal surgery. This is all ego driven behaviour.

This will not get better. It's part of a personality disorder.

MounjaroOnMyMind · 02/03/2025 21:21

So many people aren't suited to self employment. They seem to think you have to work less hard than in employment, when the reality is you have to work much harder and have far more skills than you think you might need. People just want to work at their hobby and think they'll make a fortune.

MounjaroOnMyMind · 02/03/2025 21:20

I agree you should talk to your midwife. I'd plan an exit from that man but I wouldn't do it until I'd got my money sorted out. Don't even think of moving out yourself. He caused this problem with his arrogant views. He needs to leave, when the time is right for you.

Hoppinggreen · 02/03/2025 21:20

He is not made for self employment, its only partly having a skill but there is so much more to it and it sounds like your DH just isn't suited to it.
He can't fanny around with a vanity project when you need him to support you financially and his (and his families) attitude when its suggested he do that absolutely stinks.
Sadly OP you can't make him get a job but you can decide whether you want to be with him long terms
I hope all goes well with the baby, I think you just need to try and focus on that and try to postpone everything else for a few weeks BUT the situation isn't tenable long term

Staggeredatthisadmission · 02/03/2025 21:17

Stop this situation right now. My DH gave me the “Oh but this is my big dream. If you say no you are ruining my big opportunity” He wore me down until I agreed to us buying a business. We started off mortgage free (our home) and 15 years later he was bankrupt. Massive debts, almost lost house and will be working until we drop dead. All life savings gone, everything. He’s an arsehole like my DH. Tell him to grow the fuck up and if his parents are that supportive, tell them to cough up the cash.

As a side note I had a C Section with a 2.5 year old. DH had one day off and I was then totally alone as I’m an orphan. Honestly it’s really not that bad at all. You just get on with it.

Username0826485858585 · 02/03/2025 21:14

Well he sounds like an absolute trash human being who deserves to be left on the pavement with the bins.
I'm so sorry to ask this but could you not do c section? I know I opted one because quite frankly I didn't want to give birth naturally but would a natural birth allow you to recover quicker.

GMH1974 · 02/03/2025 21:14

I was in a similar situation when my husband decided to become a contractor when we had young children. So incredibly selfish. He then got into masses of debt which he hid from me and couldn't pay and he expected me to bail him out. It completely wrecked our marriage.

viques · 02/03/2025 21:12

sageGreen81 · 02/03/2025 20:03

Well he needs to get a job doesn't he.

Exactly this. I don’t care if he was using up a box of tissues a day snivelling about his previous job, when you are responsible for two kids and know your partner is about to start a recovery from major surgery you behave like an adult, suck it up and put your dream of self employment on hold until the finances work better for your family. Self indulgent prick.

DarlingDay · 02/03/2025 21:10

Nosleepforthismum · 02/03/2025 21:06

So what’s actually the issue with this job? My DH is a contractor and a deposit is requested up front to cover materials, then interim payments depending on the size of the job. Issues or extras are always discussed with client and then invoiced. Profit is only affected if he (or one of his guys) accidentally fucks something up. He might take the hit of a day or so if it runs over but there will always be a reason for this and client will normally be charged.

What did your DP spend the materials money on? Why is he not invoicing the client for the additional work/materials?

Cross posted.

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 02/03/2025 21:10

This is the end of the relationship.

He's financially unreliable and he's not just playing with his own livelihood. He's playing with that of you and your children too.

Also he's an idiot for using credit cards for business purposes.

FIL is a labourer and it's in his pre-work estimate contract that there's a non-refundable 20% fee of the estimated total costs with an addendum that says if the costs of materials comes to more than 20% then additional fees will be requested before work commences. Then if there are any adjustments, like he managed to source cheaper materials or if things cost more in terms of daily labour or tools required he alters it in the final invoice which also includes the original copy of the estimate to show the difference.

He never has to use a credit card because the customer agrees that to use him as a contractor, if they want him, they pay the overheads upfront.

That's how a sustainable business should work.

He doesn't seem at all clued up about running a business and if he can't swallow his pride and stop making this about his feelings, and instead make this about your future and collective success then split up. Don't get yourself in debt for this man.

DarlingDay · 02/03/2025 21:09

I don't understand why he doesn't have enough money for the job. Has he spunked it? My brother does what sounds like similar work. He bills for materials, materials are delivered then bills for labour. He shouldn't be out of pocket.

EdgarAllenRaven · 02/03/2025 21:09

If his parents want to support him, and his new venture, now is the time when he needs to ask them for money.
Otherwise he needs to get a loan or business overdraft from the bank. Priority is to finish these jobs and get paid in full, and line up the next one ASAP !
Ideally, he should line up a permanent contract if he cannot make this a success. It’s a bad time to be starting a new business.

Shetlands · 02/03/2025 21:06

Viviennemary · 02/03/2025 20:46

Both of you have been irresponsible. You work part-time and earn very ljittle and he is not earning anything. You will need to apply for benefits.

How has the OP been irresponsible? She has a small child and works part time like lots of Mums of small children. It wasn't a problem before her DH jacked in his secure job to start a business without a proper plan and against her wishes.

Nosleepforthismum · 02/03/2025 21:06

So what’s actually the issue with this job? My DH is a contractor and a deposit is requested up front to cover materials, then interim payments depending on the size of the job. Issues or extras are always discussed with client and then invoiced. Profit is only affected if he (or one of his guys) accidentally fucks something up. He might take the hit of a day or so if it runs over but there will always be a reason for this and client will normally be charged.

What did your DP spend the materials money on? Why is he not invoicing the client for the additional work/materials?

pizzaHeart · 02/03/2025 21:04

I really feel for you.
He needs to ask financial help from his family, it’s on him. And throw himself into finishing contracting work days and nights. Your parents help you with toddler and newborn and maybe financially as well but not for DH. It’s too much.
Ask for mortgage holiday.
Hope all goes well tomorrow.

Summerhillsquare · 02/03/2025 21:04

TomatoSandwiches · 02/03/2025 20:27

Actually op would be better served leaving him and claiming UC for her household without him.

He can fuck off and sort his business out by himself, op has herself and two children to look after, no head space or time for a feckless fucker.

If he earns v little they should be getting UC anyway.

mathanxiety · 02/03/2025 21:02

Onedayaway · 02/03/2025 19:55

@BabyFever246 I really don't have anywhere I can go that would be suitable to put me up with the kids and accommodate to my situation so short notice. I've got everything here, sorted and organised for my post op needs. I know if I leave all hell will break loose as well.

He doesn't get that this isn't about him.

You're stuck with a chaos maker. It's a form of abuse. You will never be able to rely on this man.

I am divorced from a man who decided to become self-employed one month after we closed on our house, then peoceded to not make any money. His problem was that he saw working for other people as an affront to his sense of entitlement. He couldn't stand having to do someone else's bidding. Short term gratification was always his choice over responsible planning, and all he cared about was his own ego.

Does your P "work well with others"?
Does he see himself as billy big bollocks?
Does he go about life without any sort of realistic plan but still demand respect and trust?

What are the loans and bills?

It is time to reconsider everything about this relationship. He seems to have a flying by the seat of his pants approach to life while still happy to bring children into the world. A feckless and very immature individual.

Ask your parents to take you and the DCs in after that first week. Let your partner kick off all he wants. This is all his fault.

Delphiniumandlupins · 02/03/2025 21:01

Can his parents help out financially if they're so keen that you should support his business? Even just to get him to finish this job. You really need to just think about yourself and DC.

IDoWhateverItTakes · 02/03/2025 20:55

Onedayaway · 02/03/2025 20:08

@sageGreen81 I agree. However he refuses to accept this and his family back him. Don't get me wrong, I know if the job was to take off he would earn more than he could working for someone else. However that is a long while off and in the meantime we are struggling. And again, I feel he is completely out of order and selfish for the timing. His counter arguement to this was that there "is never a right timing" which sure, can be true. But surely when you know you are expecting another child it's just the worst timing possible?! Sometimes talking to dp is head banging because there is just no getting through to him and it does not help that his parents always refuse to acknowledge his mistakes and instead will say things like "but he has good intentions and he is doing this for your family"

Good intentions don't pay the bills.

He needs to get a job. Or you need to make it clear your marriage isn't sustainable with his sulking and refusal to be realistic.

RobertJohnsonsShoes · 02/03/2025 20:55

Just park it all and get in the zone. This useless waste of space will still be the same tomorrow and you need to concentrate on your baby tomorrow.

How dare he put you in a position where the night before you're stressed. I'd never forgive the .

Good luck tomorrow.

Sassybooklover · 02/03/2025 20:52

Setting up a business with no capital behind him was a massive mistake. To leave a stable, secure full-time job, whilst you are pregnant, to go self-employed is utter madness. Running your own business isn't easy or for everyone, if it was, we'd all be doing it. He now has to work out a way to finish the jobs he's started and then find a new job with an employer. He doesn't have the time or the finances to bugger around playing businessman. There is mortgage/rent and bills to pay, plus all the other expenses of running a home and having a family. He doesn't have the luxury of sitting down and feeling sorry for himself. You are due to have a baby tomorrow (congratulations by the way), and his priority is his family and finding work.

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 02/03/2025 20:50

Could you borrow the grand required from anyone so he could get the job done? Then he could crack on. Then maybe look for alternative work at the same time.

Plus put a claim in for Universal Credit.

Congratulations on the baby tomorrow. Don't worry about being alone with 2 little ones, you'll be fine.

SixtySomething · 02/03/2025 20:47

Right now, your job is to have a baby. His job is to support you and sort out his business issues. Nothing will change by you worrying about it. He can discuss worries with his family.
You just think about you, your child and baby.

GreenCandleWax · 02/03/2025 20:47

OP Try and get some rest. Others are going to have to help sort this out while you have a baby! Focus on yourself tonight. Thinking of you positively. May all go well tomorrow for you and your lovely baby. Flowers

TheRossie123 · 02/03/2025 20:47

Notimeforaname · 02/03/2025 20:10

Then he needs to do his own bussines on the weekends , plus work a full time job in the week, or vice versa.
He can't just not provide for his family.

Agree. Sounds like he needs to learn how to manage his finances better if he is to run his own business. This is bad financial planning if he has got himself into a situation where he can’t even finish a job without the right materials.
its not a situation where he has no money, he is in considerable debt.