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To expect a restaurant to be able to do a pint of milk?

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YourAgileBiscuit · 02/03/2025 15:15

My autistic DD (13) will normally only drink milk when we are out in restaurants etc.

Some restaurants (including chain restaurants and pubs/carvery places) get a bit funny about it when she orders/asks for milk though. Even though they already have milk for the kitchen and for teas/coffees. We’ve had some restaurants outright refuse as well even though they have milk in the building.

Is it unreasonable to expect restaurants to be able to serve milk for a paying customer? Of course we pay for her milk, we are not asking for it for free!

I would say about 50% of places we go to get funny about it which I don’t understand as they already have milk in the building.

OP posts:
OhYesImgoingtosay · 02/03/2025 16:14

arethereanyleftatall · 02/03/2025 16:12

This! This would be the right solution in most places.

And then their stock levels would be messed up wouldn't they?!?

I am always genuinely flabbergasted on any thread talking about 'why doesn't a business do X' about how many people have such a low low grasp of business acumen. I always think they must be the same people as the ones who are at the front of the queue for the flights that everyone has a specific seat on.

But accommodation of a small need for what may turn out to be a regular customer who will then possibly recommend your business to others is surely beneficial not detrimental ?

MasterBeth · 02/03/2025 16:14

OhYesImgoingtosay · 02/03/2025 15:27

It’s milk though - you can pretty much guarantee you can get milk in any shop anywhere . People are always popping out for milk as we run out of it a lot and it’s readily available. I’d be putting customer satisfaction above milk rationing just in case we sell more coffees than expected ! It’s milk it shouldn’t be a big deal at all and as OP has said they are more than happy to pay for it and pay more than the cost of a pint of milk usually is too so I don’t see a problem .

Surely that depends where you restaurant is and how well staffed it is.

High street cafe next to 24hr convenience store. Not a problem.

Beachside restaurant at the end of a sandy track. Not so easy.

ALovelyShadeofMauve · 02/03/2025 16:13

biscuitsandbooks · 02/03/2025 16:12

I don't think most places will be that bothered about losing the odd customer over a glass of milk, in all honesty.

Really? They’d rather cling onto that extra pint of milk that might well get poured down the sink the next day if they sell five fewer coffees than expected?

SouthLondonMum22 · 02/03/2025 16:13

I'd ring ahead and ask if it would be possible or just take your own milk and explain that it's for medical reasons. Wouldn't be as much fuss then.

arethereanyleftatall · 02/03/2025 16:12

This! This would be the right solution in most places.

And then their stock levels would be messed up wouldn't they?!?

I am always genuinely flabbergasted on any thread talking about 'why doesn't a business do X' about how many people have such a low low grasp of business acumen. I always think they must be the same people as the ones who are at the front of the queue for the flights that everyone has a specific seat on.

biscuitsandbooks · 02/03/2025 16:12

ALovelyShadeofMauve · 02/03/2025 16:11

And a restaurant can either rigidly enforce that, forcing the OP to order some other soft drink her child doesn’t want (and for which the restaurant will be charging that) or ask for tap water, which brings in zero profit - or they can use a tiny bit of common sense, and maybe gain regular customers into the bargain.

With the number of restaurants that have closed since the pandemic, I know which option I’d go with as a manager.

I don't think most places will be that bothered about losing the odd customer over a glass of milk, in all honesty.

ALovelyShadeofMauve · 02/03/2025 16:12

OhMrDarcy · 02/03/2025 16:11

Another point or two that I don't think has been mentioned upthread - I used to hate serving something different to a customer as a one off, as the chances were somebody else nearby would then want to order the same thing. Suddenly I'd be indunated with requests for something we didn't really serve and I'd done as a favour.

Or the customer would come back the next weekend and expect the same thing, but be served by someone else who would refuse to help, followed by a big argument.

If you were genuinely “inundated”, perhaps that should have been a sign that it was worth putting on the menu?

JMSA · 02/03/2025 16:12

Can't you just take your own?

ALovelyShadeofMauve · 02/03/2025 16:11

biscuitsandbooks · 02/03/2025 16:03

Most places have an age limit on when you can order from the kids menu.

And a restaurant can either rigidly enforce that, forcing the OP to order some other soft drink her child doesn’t want (and for which the restaurant will be charging that) or ask for tap water, which brings in zero profit - or they can use a tiny bit of common sense, and maybe gain regular customers into the bargain.

With the number of restaurants that have closed since the pandemic, I know which option I’d go with as a manager.

OhMrDarcy · 02/03/2025 16:11

Another point or two that I don't think has been mentioned upthread - I used to hate serving something different to a customer as a one off, as the chances were somebody else nearby would then want to order the same thing. Suddenly I'd be indunated with requests for something we didn't really serve and I'd done as a favour.

Or the customer would come back the next weekend and expect the same thing, but be served by someone else who would refuse to help, followed by a big argument.

Crankyaboutfood · 02/03/2025 16:11

I think laziness. People don’t know what to charge and it requires thinking about how to accommodate. Frustrating.

QuirkyPlumDog · 02/03/2025 16:10

In my experience in hospitality, If a member of staff didn’t know what to do (if they didn’t know what to charge or if they didn’t know if they could serve milk) if someone asked for milk then I would expect them to get their duty manager first before considering outright refusing.

biscuitsandbooks · 02/03/2025 16:10

QuirkyPlumDog · 02/03/2025 16:07

Any good GM or duty manager would use their discretion though and judge the situation if something like this came up and waive that restriction in a situation like this.

Edited

I agree, but that may involve telling a stranger that a 13 year old is autistic, and she may not be comfortable with that.

biscuitsandbooks · 02/03/2025 16:10

ALovelyShadeofMauve · 02/03/2025 16:06

How often are you going to be doing it though? It’s not like the system will auto-order a year's supply of Coke because it thinks you sold one more than it did.

But it's not about ordering, it's about the till and the remaining stock not tallying up properly at the end of the day/week/month.

In many places, you can't just stick a pint of coke on a receipt and give the customer orange juice instead. You have to put the exact item through the till or the system doesn't match up properly.

BobbyBiscuits · 02/03/2025 16:09

I'd say I would not expect it necessarily. If they have milk in stock it will specifically be purchased for coffee/tea or as an ingredient for something else. They simply wouldn't have a spare pint of it knocking around. Milk isn't offered on any restaurant menu I've ever seen.

Presumably as it's not popular as a drink with meals for adults.
It's true someone could pop to the shop but that depends on how busy the service is, or what company policy is.

Next time check and if they don't just say it's all he drinks so please can we just bring our own. If everyone else is drinking and he's having a meal I'm sure they wouldn't mind.

Dbank · 02/03/2025 16:09

Most restaurants have computerised tills, and may not have a way of adding or charging for a drink that's not set-up on the system already.

TeenLifeMum · 02/03/2025 16:09

My dc often have milk - never had an issue. Where are you eating? 🤷🏻‍♀️

QuirkyPlumDog · 02/03/2025 16:07

biscuitsandbooks · 02/03/2025 16:03

Most places have an age limit on when you can order from the kids menu.

Any good GM or duty manager would use their discretion though and judge the situation if something like this came up and waive that restriction in a situation like this.

biscuitsandbooks · 02/03/2025 16:07

OhYesImgoingtosay · 02/03/2025 16:05

I think most reasonable people would waive that for someone with any kind of SEN/ disability surely that’s a reasonable adjustment

Yes, but you'd have to then explain the DD is autistic, which she may not be very comfortable about.

ALovelyShadeofMauve · 02/03/2025 16:06

biscuitsandbooks · 02/03/2025 16:04

You can't do that as it impacts your POS and stock take system.

How often are you going to be doing it though? It’s not like the system will auto-order a year's supply of Coke because it thinks you sold one more than it did.

biscuitsandbooks · 02/03/2025 16:05

OhYesImgoingtosay · 02/03/2025 15:57

It could be put through as a latte or milkshake or hot chocolate

No - you can't do that as it impacts your POS and stock take system. You can't just stick whatever you like through the till, it all has to tally at the end of the day.

naemates · 02/03/2025 16:05

The cafe in my local town hall has both 'a glass of semi skimmed milk' and 'a glass of whole milk' on the menu (same price). You would be very welcome there Grin

I don't think it should be as big as problem as people are making out, Costa aren't refusing to sell lattes at 100%(ish) milk just in case they could sell 2 cappuccinos or even 4 americanos with a splash for a higher profit per milk usage, are they?

OhYesImgoingtosay · 02/03/2025 16:05

biscuitsandbooks · 02/03/2025 16:03

Most places have an age limit on when you can order from the kids menu.

I think most reasonable people would waive that for someone with any kind of SEN/ disability surely that’s a reasonable adjustment

SilkSquare · 02/03/2025 16:05

@YourAgileBiscuit You say se will only drink milk when out in a restaurant. Dies this mean that she will drink other things at home or school?

If so, could you persuade her to drink whatever she drinks at home when in a restaurant. She is 13 and can probably understand that if she can drink something else it will make it a less stressful experience for everyone.

Or is it the case that she drinks nothing but milk? If so, bring a flask and a glass and just explain before you order.

biscuitsandbooks · 02/03/2025 16:04

ALovelyShadeofMauve · 02/03/2025 15:57

So charge what you would for a Coke, or a coffee, and press that button. It’s not rocket science.

You can't do that as it impacts your POS and stock take system.