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To consider quitting teaching before summer

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Anothernameschange · 02/03/2025 13:51

Interested to hear from other teachers / ex teachers etc.

Sometimes it gets to the point when July seems a long way off and I'd love to leave this school/ position behind as soon as possible.

Is it crazy to think I don't even want to stick out to till then and leave earlier? Means I'll miss out of 6 weeks of summer pay.

The plan is to get out teaching and this awful job share - gone down to part time but still have 5 classes shared with an unqualified cover supervisor - so I'm responsible for classes, she just takes lessons she finds and hands out resources.
Right now feels tempting to even take a big pay cut if it means I get my weekends / evenings back.

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Redlocks30 · 06/03/2025 19:34

If you leave on UPS you’ll return to that level

Michael Gove scrapped pay portability long ago.

In a cash-strapped primary, you wouldn't get back on UPS easily, sadly.

CalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 06/03/2025 17:20

Also, if you’re an outstanding teacher, which is what I was always graded as, you’ll find that your reputation as a tutor will soon grow. I never advertise and still have a waiting list. People are desperate for good tutors.

MrBiscuits24 · 06/03/2025 17:20

I’m leaving at Easter.

This is how see it:
You get three paid weeks for Autumn term.
You get three paid weeks for Spring term.
You get three weeks for Summer so you’re only losing 3 weeks hols not 6.

This helped me massively. I’m leaving I’m done. I can’t do it anymore.

It is like an abusive relationship.

CalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 06/03/2025 17:19

If you leave on UPS you’ll return to that level. It’s only the TLR that you might struggle to pick up again (just because someone at the new school may already be happily in that role).

Could you try tutoring? I left teaching after 20 years and currently earn as much as a tutor as I did as a HOD. I don’t even work weekends. Why not try to get tutees lined up now? The only thing is whether your lifestyle allows you to work approx 3.30-7pm Mon to Friday or if you have things to do then. My kids are grown up.

Anothernameschange · 06/03/2025 17:13

CalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 06/03/2025 13:54

Teacher here - I’d resign now with effect from September 1st. You’ll be paid over summer and will have six paid months to look for something else. The key thing will be the second you resign you’ll have an enormous feeling of relief: you only need to get through 4 months and there are two more holidays in that period.

That sounds tempting though I'll be honest the nerves are kicking in....I bet every teacher in my position has thought something like

  • if I leave with UPS and then change my mind I might not get UPS again
  • I might struggle to find something else as I feel my brain has gone to mush after having taught bottom sets for years and teaching from some awful SOW
  • I used to be an outstanding teacher but this school has robbed the joy out of teaching and I feel like a crap teacher now

I am currently waiting till May or at least till Easter holidays before drafting that resignation.

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CalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 06/03/2025 13:54

Teacher here - I’d resign now with effect from September 1st. You’ll be paid over summer and will have six paid months to look for something else. The key thing will be the second you resign you’ll have an enormous feeling of relief: you only need to get through 4 months and there are two more holidays in that period.

Anothernameschange · 06/03/2025 13:51

Yep, I've actually decided to drop my TLR, it wasn't worth much but its one less thing to think about.

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Fluffyowl00 · 05/03/2025 21:10

No way! You’ve got 16 weeks left and will get 9 weeks holiday. Tell yourself you DESERVE that holiday. Hand in your notice or have it written out. Count out the days.

Do your job and nothing else. Explain why if necessary. It won’t be long. We can do it!

You can’t leave before the summer now anyway. Of that feels too much for you, self cert or speak to GP whilst you deal with that and go back when you feel better.

You might find that once it reverts to being ‘just a job’ it’s way more manageable.

‘No sorry. I can’t do that as it’s not part of my job description, and to be honest, come September it will be someone else’s responsibility, so probably better if they start doing that now.’ ‘Yes it is correct. If you check you'll find that teachers should not provide long term cover for someone else’ ‘I know, nightmare, sorry. Past my contacted hours right now. Got to go’. ‘Might want to sort that out as it’s why you’re going to have to spend a lot of time and effort replacing a great teacher’

AndThereSheGoes · 05/03/2025 20:51

It's a short half term after Easter and then the long slog to the summer holidays.

How much take home are you getting after tax, union and pension Op?

Anothernameschange · 05/03/2025 07:41

I do love the idea of no longer dealing with behaviour management and having conversations with actual adults.

I think one thing that might keep women in jobs, not just teachers, longer than they otherwise might do is the thought of having another child and missing out on maternity. In my case I definitely would not want to return to teaching with two little babies, it's hard enough with the one so I'm accepting that should I find another job in September and have another within a year or won't get maternity pay - but I wouldn't get it if I remained in teaching anyway as I definitely don't want to go back.

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bellocchild · 03/03/2025 17:39

Anothernameschange · 03/03/2025 13:34

Curious to know what you went into.
I do have previous work experience outside of teaching and consider myself to be quite skilled, however, I know that with almost ten years of teaching I have worked my way up to UPS and imagine that I won't get a similar salary elsewhere.

Take anything going to get launched in the outside world - you don't have to stick at it, but it will get you back into the mindset, and you will stop subconsciously listening for the bell. It is quite a tough jump - people don't see you as a team player. I used to make a joke about teaching: 'Yes, I was a teacher for twelve years but I got time off for good behaviour!" Or 'Yes, I was a teacher - now you can put that gum in the bin, face the front and LISTEN!" Ok, not particularly funny, but it lightened the mood.
(Incidentally, I became a marketing manager and had the time of my life!)

Casperroonie · 03/03/2025 17:13

Anothernameschange · 02/03/2025 13:51

Interested to hear from other teachers / ex teachers etc.

Sometimes it gets to the point when July seems a long way off and I'd love to leave this school/ position behind as soon as possible.

Is it crazy to think I don't even want to stick out to till then and leave earlier? Means I'll miss out of 6 weeks of summer pay.

The plan is to get out teaching and this awful job share - gone down to part time but still have 5 classes shared with an unqualified cover supervisor - so I'm responsible for classes, she just takes lessons she finds and hands out resources.
Right now feels tempting to even take a big pay cut if it means I get my weekends / evenings back.

Don't do it. Head before heart on this one...

Wait until 31st May, then look elsewhere. Get your summer pay!!!

katseyes7 · 03/03/2025 13:48

My sister in law and one of my closest friends are teachers, and have given notice to leave at the end of the summer term.
Both around 60, been in their roles for years, now job sharing, but have just had enough.
I don't think you're alone feeling like that.

Anothernameschange · 03/03/2025 13:47

amigafan2003 · 03/03/2025 10:39

Why would you take a pay cut, teachers earn much more in the private sector. When I left my pay increased by 50%.

At what point in your teaching career did you leave? And what did you go into?

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amigafan2003 · 03/03/2025 13:45

Anothernameschange · 03/03/2025 13:34

Curious to know what you went into.
I do have previous work experience outside of teaching and consider myself to be quite skilled, however, I know that with almost ten years of teaching I have worked my way up to UPS and imagine that I won't get a similar salary elsewhere.

I coach degree apprentices through thier degree journey and prepare them for end point assessment.

Loads of well paid (more than UPS) coaching/training roles out there that teachers are ideal for.

Anothernameschange · 03/03/2025 13:34

Curious to know what you went into.
I do have previous work experience outside of teaching and consider myself to be quite skilled, however, I know that with almost ten years of teaching I have worked my way up to UPS and imagine that I won't get a similar salary elsewhere.

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amigafan2003 · 03/03/2025 10:39

Why would you take a pay cut, teachers earn much more in the private sector. When I left my pay increased by 50%.

Redlocks30 · 03/03/2025 10:37

What I am curious to know is if anyone has ever felt it's warranted to leave before then? Eg hand in notice before Feb 28 and miss out on summer pay? If you get a different job does it work out as ok financially?

I know plenty of people who did this. They just 'went at Easter', they didn't mention the summer pay. Some had jobs lined up for after Easter, and some didn't.

How it works out financially will obviously depend on every individual household, who else is earning, how big the mortgage is, whether there's another job to go to etc etc

bellocchild · 03/03/2025 09:38

Don't deprive yourself of the summer holiday pay and don't leave without the correct half-term's notice, because teaching is a really useful stand-by job while you relaunch yourself. You can always pick up a short-term contract, maternity leave, or supply.
For the time being, do as little as possible and stop preparing lessons for the TA - just give her the subject she should cover, and let her do the detailed prepping. Cut out any irrelevant or future-oriented tasks demanded by your current employers - you won't be there anyway.

What you do need to do now is work on your non-teaching abilities - make sure you are up-to-date with all IT skills and any relevant developments in your chosen field(s). Do online courses where you can. Get your CV sorted, and think out answers to interview questions in advance. Check your wardrobe for suitable clothing too.
A lot of teaching skills are transferable, so work out what yours are and emphasise them: for example, the ability to manage people and supervise group efforts, to prepare material and deliver it confidently to a varied audience, to think on your feet. Approach it like a project and be positive!

Anothernameschange · 03/03/2025 09:34

Redlocks30 · 02/03/2025 19:25

I feel the same and am planning to leave in the summer. What do you intend to do with your notice period as you've just missed the resignation date to go at Easter.

Given that I have missed the deadline to leave before summer I think I'll accept that.
What I am curious to know is if anyone has ever felt it's warranted to leave before then? Eg hand in notice before Feb 28 and miss out on summer pay? If you get a different job does it work out as ok financially? I know it's not relevant to me anymore but if I'm ever in this situation again I dont want to see out the rest of the year if by January I feel I have had enough.

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Anothernameschange · 03/03/2025 07:44

@Julimia and @WhyDidPunxutawneyPhilHaveToSeeHisShadow I can see where you are both coming from.

Ultimately it is a failing of management when it comes to recruitment and understanding how people work. As I was due to come back from mat leave in the autumn term (they didn't think to check with me before I left to confirm this but that's another thread) the management thought they could hire a qualified teacher with some subject knowledge but without giving her any firm contract or indication of how long the role will last for...surprise surprise she didn't stay till the end of the week. Queue vacancy which they didn't want to go to hassle to advertise for so they nabbed the cover supervisor...that could have been forgiven if they hadn't decided to make it a long term thing when I returned.

Again that could have been another vacancy for a part time qualified English teacher...but I'm sure it was cheaper to use the cover supervisor.

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Julimia · 02/03/2025 22:21

Totally wrong end of the stick you got here.

Littlemisscapable · 02/03/2025 22:04

Julimia · 02/03/2025 19:49

You need to think this through more. Remember you are workng the hours you do for your benefit and not that of the other half of the share. You will be the one to miss out for her short comings meanwhile she will sail through. Talk to the head or someone, spell out the problem and what you would like out of this situation for you. Don't just quit. Why should you suffer?

This. What about your union ? If your mental health is suffering and your physical health is affected then go to you GP and take some time off. This wll get you closer to July and might highlight your challenges to management. You deserve better, this is just a job you shouldn't have to feel like this.

WhyDidPunxutawneyPhilHaveToSeeHisShadow · 02/03/2025 21:58

Nice try.
Shortcomings is a failing to meet a certain standard on their part when you know full well teaching is not their job.
Sailing through to September implies they'll succeed/move through quickly when you have no idea what their job conditions are.
The truth is they'll be on £1500 a month after tax; it is low-income work chosen mainly by those with caring responsibilities.
Do better.

Julimia · 02/03/2025 21:28

Means basically she will lose a job nd wage and pick up any ensuing hardship whilst the other person keeps theirs. Quite simple really.

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