To feel proud of the British welcome

Loving the winter tea idea

Maybe he just gets tea on the lawn then ….. in Winter😁…..at Balmoral

Apparently the invitation was for 2026 but according to todays headlines Trumps administration wants the State visit this Summer.
He really does take the p…

Watch and learn Trump and Vance, you bullying, fucking self-serving excuses for human beings

Unfortunately the hugs and welcome will not do much to help Ukraine with Russia. The UK and NATO cannot support Ukraine against Russia without the US and even the head of NATO made that clear today when he asked Zelensky to do whatever it takes to work on the relationship with Trump and get the discussions back on track.

Unfortunately the US has very different objectives and interests compared to the UK here so there's really nothing to watch and learn.

I will take the UK seriously if you withdraw the state visit invitation and declare that you will not work with the US/Trump including rejecting any talks of a trade deal etc, but we all know we will do that because we need them.... Stamer will continue to try to build the relationship with Trump and fawn over him because unfortunately the UK doesn't have much leverage here.

Unfortunately I don't think the UK can cancel it without causing even more strife.

Invited a day earlier than previously planned by the UK after basically being chucked out of the White House
A warm embrace and cheering crowds
Starmer really gave him the welcome he deserves and it brought tears to my eyes after watching what he had to put up with in the White House.

Now , UK, we need to take away Trumps invitation for a state visit to show that we do not accept bullies.

It has. If, heaven forbid, there's another war then I can see the US and the UK and much of the rest of Europe being on opposing sides.

The support offered is likely to be effective , much more than the nonsense peddled in America by the idiot in charge.

President Zelensky loojed weary. If ever a man looks like he needs a holiday it's him. Poor fella. I hope the PM's welcome has cheered him up a bit.

Trump & Vance bullying him, and being pally with Putin, puts the UK in a sticky bit diplomatic bother, doesn't it? Trump has caused an almighty mess.

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I think that there are huge issues about European solidarity in many ways. Each country is facing a different set of issues.

On the other hand, an empowered Russia? Maybe a common threat will unite them. After all, the USA and UK made common cause with Soviet Russia against Nazi Germany. Is it in the interests of any European nation to empower Putin's Russia? Maybe Orban. But does he really want to become a Russian satellite and give up his status?

Militarily, yes, very tough. As I understand it the UK military capability has been built around supporting and integrating with the USA. And probably other NATO members.

NATO has been abruptly destroyed, in reality. And reality makes possible changes that were previously impossible. War (hot or cold) brings previously unimaginable developments, because previously unimaginable investment and necessity.

This would be the better approach. Trump is awful but there's no way to rescind the invitation without making an all out enemy of him. There will be other ways to play it and there's no date set for it yet. Meanwhile Zelensky can be deservedly received here as a statesman and friend.

As a Canadian, The brits are not going to revoke the invite to trump from Westminster. They have to keep trump on side, they’re too smart to piss him off just to put on an impressive moral show.

I think they’ve played it extremely well so far and fed right into his ego.

They’ll be subtle, by welcoming and supporting Zelenskyy as they did. Whilst not outright vilifying trump, they are sending a clear message.

I totally agree with you but I don't think that Europe has the will or the military capacity to provide effective support to Ukraine. Yes, the European leaders will gather round tomorrow and say supportive things but not much will happen. Actions speak louder than words. It's fair enough to criticise Trump, Vance etc but I don't think that Ukraine can count on Europe either. I was reading today that France, Italy, Spain, Portugal are stalling an EU proposal to provide money.

Very heartwarming, I am so proud this meeting was able to take place today and I hope Zelensky is now feeling much stronger. He looked so down-beaten yesterday, heartbreaking if I'm honest because we are all so helpless. A truly remarkable and admirable man.

maudelovesharold · Today 23:01

Stripeyanddotty · Today 22:48
Would be brilliant if Charles rescinded his invite to Trump - the icing on the cake!

Or if he issued an invitation for a State Visit to Zelensky. Trump might decide not to come, then

Oh, I really, really hope that happens. I think it’s a load of old guff, but it would send a good, strong message to Trump.

Genuinely moving scenes with Starmer and Zelenskyy

Plus got really misty at the crowds cheering

This country FUCKING HATES BULLIES, it's literally in our DNA to have a sense of fairness and justice

Whilst I did not vote for him I can see that our PM is a decent human, with a warm manner about him. Trump is a vile bully but we all know that....

Or if he issued an invitation for a State Visit to Zelensky. Trump might decide not to come, then!

I think that the behaviour of Trump, Vance and their minions leaves Russia in a far stronger position.

But it gives a stark choice to other states and regions. And there are all sorts of possibilities. It is scary when the world order is breaking down. But now we are facing reality, and we can't hide behind 'it might not come to that'.

There was a huge difference between the anti Nazi coalition in September 1938 (the Munich Conference, where the status of Czekoslovakia was decided without the Czekoslovakians present, sound familiar?), and September 1939.

Yes, that resulted in a pretty grim decade. But you only need to see what the Nazi regime went on to do to see that there comes a point where you have to draw a line.

Of course I am scared for the consequences. But the lesson of history is that giving in to authoritarian regimes has worse consequences in the medium term. Even if in the short term I won't be affected by allowing the bullies to win. In the end they will come for me.

Whatever you think about the war, Zelensky is the democratically elected leader of another nation, and should be shown respect when invited to another country. It’s basic diplomacy.

I’m pleased we have Starmer in charge at the moment, imagine if May or Sunak had to deal with this. I think Starmer could play a leading role managing the fall-out from the White House meeting.

BarneyRonson · Today 22:56

Brits are the most welcoming nation in the world.

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I think Trump has embarrassed this country and the other European countries who visited and made a big fuss and show of goodwill. This was partly based on his assurances of support for Ukraine. Now he has insulted Zelenskyy and by extension the Ukrainian nation which has put us in a very difficult situation.

Brits are the most welcoming nation in the world.

Definitely, it made me feel emotional seeing Zelenskyy emotional after what he's had to go through the past couple of days. I have such huge admiration for him as a leader and my respect for Starmer has gone up as well, I'm glad he has clearly stated this country supports Ukraine.