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Food etiquette when hosting dinner

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OtterlyMad · 01/03/2025 20:06

I have an old friend who regularly invites me and my husband around for dinner, and either serves us shop-bought pizzas or asks to order takeaway. AIBU to think this is weird and lazy? She’s a SAHM and the dinners are always planned weeks (or even months) in advance. My husband and I avoid takeaways because we’re trying to lose weight, plus they’re overpriced and we find the options locally to be quite uninspiring (we live in a small town so the choice is mediocre Indian vs. mediocre Chinese). When we invite people over for dinner, we make an effort to serve nice homemade food. I know they cook proper dinners for their kids, so I don’t understand why they can’t make even a spag bol for us?! Last time I actually offered to cook something and bring it with us, but my friend got awkward/defensive.

Are we being unreasonable?

OP posts:
Shepherdscrookish335 · 02/03/2025 09:47

OtterlyMad · 02/03/2025 08:48

On reflection we’re just very different - different politics, experiences, priorities, outlooks on life. We’re probably not their kind of people either, but I guess when you have kids you have fewer opportunities to socialise so you cling on to that old school friend and her husband because they’re better than nothing?

So in short, yes, I think I would have realised eventually that we’ve outgrown our friendship, but this particular mismatch in expectations has helped me get there sooner.

Wow op. You really do come across as thinking yourself superior in every way.

Poor little sahm, with no opportunities to make friends and apparently no intellectual resources either.

Maybe she invites you because she likes you and your dh? And it’s as simple as that? Maybe she is assuming, incorrectly, that you like them just for themselves too?

Maybe she doesn’t cook because she is fed up of cooking for her dc and fancies a night off.

An invitation is just that. You are not obligated to accept. Personally I’m delighted when anyone takes the trouble to invite and host me and I am there for their friendship not the meal.

It’s the height of bad manners to
accept hospitality and then complain about it, so I’m glad you have worked that out during the course of this thread.

AngelinaFibres · 02/03/2025 09:42

AngelinaFibres · 02/03/2025 09:41

I would imagine it's because 2 of the wives are from the ' I always cook from scratch/ oh I just threw it together( 3 days planning, 1 days prep, 1 day cooking and doing presentation) " brigade so others feel obliged to / bullied into doing the same. Women judge other women . This thread is a prime example of that .

Oh and the women all know each other and join the Friday night social thing. They just don't play badminton .

AngelinaFibres · 02/03/2025 09:41

fivegreenmonkeys · 02/03/2025 08:51

But why don’t the men cook if it’s their club and them eating? I’m not from the UK, it’s line stepping back 50 yrs in time reading here.

I would imagine it's because 2 of the wives are from the ' I always cook from scratch/ oh I just threw it together( 3 days planning, 1 days prep, 1 day cooking and doing presentation) " brigade so others feel obliged to / bullied into doing the same. Women judge other women . This thread is a prime example of that .

biscuitsandbooks · 02/03/2025 09:39

I can't imagine being offended because someone served me a frozen pizza.

You clearly don't like them so why bother?

Moonnstars · 02/03/2025 09:36

OtterlyMad · 02/03/2025 09:07

I mean we do have other friends who are really into making their own pizza; sometimes that’s what they serve at dinner parties and it’s lovely. I’m not anti pizza - it’s the lack of effort that bothers me. But according to many people in this thread, I should be grateful if they serve potato waffles and baked beans on a paper plate!

This is where I think you are being rude, here you are saying she is basically lazy by not hosting a proper dinner party. I think you need to just cut this friendship as you clearly want different things.

I am with your friend and would love to be invited round to someone's house and have a relaxing evening of takeaway and chat. But I also have children so maybe this is the difference.

SallyWD · 02/03/2025 09:33

OtterlyMad · 02/03/2025 09:07

I mean we do have other friends who are really into making their own pizza; sometimes that’s what they serve at dinner parties and it’s lovely. I’m not anti pizza - it’s the lack of effort that bothers me. But according to many people in this thread, I should be grateful if they serve potato waffles and baked beans on a paper plate!

I don't think it would bother you if you actually liked her. I think you no longer like her, and I detect you may look down on her.
Me and DH are foodies. We go to town when we host. We also make a real effort when we're only cooking for us!
However, I also realise that a) not everyone can cook and b) a lot of people lack confidence in cooking.
One of my oldest friends invited me for dinner and cooked me beans on toast. I knew this was because she simply doesn't know how to cook. She was raised on freezer food/take aways and this is what she eats. I would never have expected anything more from her, to be honest. My other friend always orders Domino's when we go there. She told me she just has no confidence in her cooking and feels far too nervous to cook for us.
I don't judge these two friends. They're useless cooks! But our friendship isn't based on what food they give me. I really like them and value our friendships. Couldn't care less about getting beans on toast.

crockofshite · 02/03/2025 09:30

Eat before you go and just nibble on the pizza.

One day their kids will be old enough for them to leave for a few hours and you can have your turn to host.

Sharptonguedwoman · 02/03/2025 09:10

Laralou999 · 02/03/2025 05:37

I get it it’s strange etiquette- but maybe she’s worried about her cooking going wrong/ isn’t a confident cook?

I thought this. It's one thing to cook for family, I'd be much more nervouse cooking for friends.

AmusedBouched · 02/03/2025 09:07

OtterlyMad · 01/03/2025 20:33

You know what, I think you’ve hit the nail on the head here… I’m actually not that fussed about seeing them (we‘ve grown apart over the years and now really different people) so that’s probably why it irritates me that they make so little effort with the food. Thank you for helping me to see this.

This is a very good point actually! Glad you have seen this.

i suppose I wouldn’t mind a low effort cooking meal, but depending on who it is - I would be unhappy to go to someone else’s house then have to pay for takeaway that likely wouldn’t be what I would want to eat anyway.

If you do decide to go again, or if any other friends do this, I’d definitely suggest saying something about having had a big lunch or something and you will just come over for a drink.

OtterlyMad · 02/03/2025 09:07

Titasaducksarse · 02/03/2025 08:58

What if it was home made pizza? With home made sauce cooked in a wood fired Ooni or similar? Would people still have issues as, let me tell you it is actually quite hard getting everything spot on..the simplicity is the challenge.

I digress as I'm taking the pee a bit but just wanted to make a point to the pizza haters......there's pizza....then there's pizza!

I cook simple but nice home made meals when I have friends over as I don't want to spend ages cooking. Once we had a takeout but that was because it was a new home cooked enterprise of someone doing Thai.

I mean we do have other friends who are really into making their own pizza; sometimes that’s what they serve at dinner parties and it’s lovely. I’m not anti pizza - it’s the lack of effort that bothers me. But according to many people in this thread, I should be grateful if they serve potato waffles and baked beans on a paper plate!

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SeanMean · 02/03/2025 09:02

YANBU.

Very low effort and lazy of them.

I wouldn’t be impressed either.

OtterlyMad · 02/03/2025 09:01

GingerGirl4549 · 02/03/2025 08:00

I actually feel you op. I'm in the same position. They have kids so we go there. They serve frozen pizza or takeaway. I'm on weightloss journey and don't want to eat either, when I've took my own she has an issue, if I say I've already eaten she gossips behind my back that I'm being unhealthy with my weightless, when I tried to explain I wanted to eat more healthier I was told I was being silly and deserve a treat- I'm going to stop going which upsets me
I don't think you're being a bitch or snob as others suggest here, just want different things

Thanks. I’ve not responded to the people who have been patronising (I’ve lost 4 stone, I don’t need to be lectured on weight loss strategies!) or said we should just skip lunch (I’m not going to starve myself all day just so I can ‘treat myself’ to a mediocre takeaway). We go to their house because we understand their childcare predicament; I really don’t think it’s too much for them to return the courtesy by serving their guests a simple pasta bake or chicken salad…

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LittleBigHead · 02/03/2025 09:00

Maybe meals with friends that she doesn’t have to cook are a real treat for her.

Titasaducksarse · 02/03/2025 08:58

What if it was home made pizza? With home made sauce cooked in a wood fired Ooni or similar? Would people still have issues as, let me tell you it is actually quite hard getting everything spot on..the simplicity is the challenge.

I digress as I'm taking the pee a bit but just wanted to make a point to the pizza haters......there's pizza....then there's pizza!

I cook simple but nice home made meals when I have friends over as I don't want to spend ages cooking. Once we had a takeout but that was because it was a new home cooked enterprise of someone doing Thai.

Stai · 02/03/2025 08:55

She sound like she is relaxed and comfortable in herself, not tying herself in knots trying to host the perfect dinner party. After being with the children all day, cooking endless meals for them, she probably just wants a night off with adult company and no stress.

If one of my friends did this. I’d honestly be so happy she was relaxed and care free around me and just wanted my company. It’s a bit different for you as you feel you’re at different life stages and the friendship is waning. I think the latter is really the issue, not the food.

fivegreenmonkeys · 02/03/2025 08:51

AngelinaFibres · 02/03/2025 08:43

My husband was asked to join a badminton group for retired men. Apparently as well as playing badminton they would get together at a different members house each Friday for a meal. The meal was cooked by the relevant wife of the badminton player. One of the other wives warned me that it had started to become very competitive as to who could produce the most fabulous, three course, world cuisine extravaganza. Fuck that. I don't mind cooking but I'm not interested enough in food to allow it to occupy more if my day than it has to....and also, why can't the bloody men do it.

But why don’t the men cook if it’s their club and them eating? I’m not from the UK, it’s line stepping back 50 yrs in time reading here.

Wilfrida1 · 02/03/2025 08:49

If you think this is the moment to bow out of the friendship, then do that.

If not, invite them to yours, but just do something simple - curry, lasagne etc, as you mentioned.

If she says no, because of needing a babysitter, then say you wish to 'host' aka provide food, so you will bring it over to hers. If she refuses, then yes, that's the end of the friendship.

But what I can't get over is they invite you over - and then you have to pay for your own food?! Bonkers!

arcticpandas · 02/03/2025 08:48

Maybe she's insecure about her cooking skills? We have ordered pizza at times because I get so stressed out not knowing if what I make will be to their taste. Always make a salad as entrée though so noone is forced to eat a whole pizza.

OtterlyMad · 02/03/2025 08:48

Notsosure1 · 02/03/2025 08:26

If she cooked you meals would this even be an issue and the need to extract ourselves from the cough friendship cough?

On reflection we’re just very different - different politics, experiences, priorities, outlooks on life. We’re probably not their kind of people either, but I guess when you have kids you have fewer opportunities to socialise so you cling on to that old school friend and her husband because they’re better than nothing?

So in short, yes, I think I would have realised eventually that we’ve outgrown our friendship, but this particular mismatch in expectations has helped me get there sooner.

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AngelinaFibres · 02/03/2025 08:43

My husband was asked to join a badminton group for retired men. Apparently as well as playing badminton they would get together at a different members house each Friday for a meal. The meal was cooked by the relevant wife of the badminton player. One of the other wives warned me that it had started to become very competitive as to who could produce the most fabulous, three course, world cuisine extravaganza. Fuck that. I don't mind cooking but I'm not interested enough in food to allow it to occupy more if my day than it has to....and also, why can't the bloody men do it.

AgnesX · 02/03/2025 08:43

Then don't mention dinner. If she wants company then invite for drinks only and then class the shop bought pizza as nibbles.

Inviting someone for dinner means making an effort and cooking.

FloppySarnie · 02/03/2025 08:40

CalleOcho · 01/03/2025 20:31

have an old friend who regularly invites me and my husband around for dinner, and either serves us shop-bought pizzas or asks to order takeaway. AIBU to think this is weird and lazy?

Yes YABU.

Don’t go if you don’t want to eat shop bought pizza or takeaway.

Jesus, I couldn’t imagine writing such a bitchy and snobby thread about a friend.

Do them a favour and end the friendship.

Perfect response.

fivegreenmonkeys · 02/03/2025 08:38

FanofLeaves · 01/03/2025 20:07

She probably wants a relaxing evening socialising and not cooking or washing up 🤷🏻‍♀️

Edited

She?

saveforthat · 02/03/2025 08:38

HoppingPavlova · 02/03/2025 05:51

I can cook but I never cook for guests unless doing a lunch bbq. Otherwise I order nice takeaway food (all at our own expense, would never ask people to contribute). I prefer to prioritise time with guests over cooking, faffing in kitchen, cleaning up etc.

Usually only use disposable plates (proper cutlery though depending on food as often disposable cutlery sub par) so clean up is simply plates/bowls/containers in bin bags and straight out, dirty cutlery in sink to be dealt with after. Always use nice glassware though🤣.

Disposable plates! How much time does that save?

pelargoniums · 02/03/2025 08:37

Homemade lasagne is a lot of effort; pizza is low-effort – and delicious! She’s inviting you for your company, not for an episode of Come Dine With Me. Personally I’d find being a SAHM hard work, harder than working. I wouldn’t have the time, energy or inclination to make a lasagne on my days at home with DS. I’m much more likely to do so in the evening after work! Going round to hers makes financial sense; babysitters are expensive.

When you offer to bring food, she’s possibly interpreting it as “We’ll only come to your house if we like the food, because we don’t enjoy your company that much”. Do you enjoy your friendship and want to see her? Eat the damn pizza.