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Food etiquette when hosting dinner

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OtterlyMad · 01/03/2025 20:06

I have an old friend who regularly invites me and my husband around for dinner, and either serves us shop-bought pizzas or asks to order takeaway. AIBU to think this is weird and lazy? She’s a SAHM and the dinners are always planned weeks (or even months) in advance. My husband and I avoid takeaways because we’re trying to lose weight, plus they’re overpriced and we find the options locally to be quite uninspiring (we live in a small town so the choice is mediocre Indian vs. mediocre Chinese). When we invite people over for dinner, we make an effort to serve nice homemade food. I know they cook proper dinners for their kids, so I don’t understand why they can’t make even a spag bol for us?! Last time I actually offered to cook something and bring it with us, but my friend got awkward/defensive.

Are we being unreasonable?

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biscuitsandbooks · 02/03/2025 11:07

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 02/03/2025 11:04

But OP is expected to pay for her own food at their house! That’s really weird, why not just invite them round for a drink, then you can supply a few crisps and peanuts. OP would probably bring a bottle anyway….

Lots of virtue signalling on this thread about how everyone doesn’t care what they eat, values the conversation above the food, etc etc, ignoring that OP has offered TO BRING the food to ensure it’s edible. I don’t believe for a minute that they would all be perfectly content to pay for their own food, especially if they dislike it ( as most people would).

Paying for your own takeaway is very normal in my social circles - I've never once paid for anyone else's and they've never paid for mine. We all pay for what we order.

As for bringing your own food, personally I would find that a bit weird (allergies aside). Though maybe OP's friends just don't like her cooking, lol.

Alondra · 02/03/2025 11:06

BettyBardMacDonald · 02/03/2025 10:26

"Thanks so much, Sarah. We've got a lot on at the moment so can't really commit. Hope you're all enjoying spring. Take care."

"That's kind of you but our schedules are fairly unpredictable these days with work and some ongoing family matters"

"Thanks for the invite but I am swamped at work & hours are less predictable these days."

Then taper off and don't respond to each text.

This. You need to be proactive in your answers to her. Keep refusing her invitations in general terms and don't answer if she tries to be specific by giving you dates.

She'll get that the friendship has run its course eventually.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 02/03/2025 11:04

But OP is expected to pay for her own food at their house! That’s really weird, why not just invite them round for a drink, then you can supply a few crisps and peanuts. OP would probably bring a bottle anyway….

Lots of virtue signalling on this thread about how everyone doesn’t care what they eat, values the conversation above the food, etc etc, ignoring that OP has offered TO BRING the food to ensure it’s edible. I don’t believe for a minute that they would all be perfectly content to pay for their own food, especially if they dislike it ( as most people would).

biscuitsandbooks · 02/03/2025 11:00

Shepherdscrookish335 · 02/03/2025 10:55

A polite way to get around the “name your date” invitation is to say something like, “thanks so much for lovely invitation but I am going to have to decline for the foreseeable future as much of my spare time is being eaten up by family, work and other social commitments, but dh and I wish you all the best”.

I think that is a fairly clear and polite way of saying you don’t wish to socialise with her further.

That's not remotely polite!

Shepherdscrookish335 · 02/03/2025 10:55

A polite way to get around the “name your date” invitation is to say something like, “thanks so much for lovely invitation but I am going to have to decline for the foreseeable future as much of my spare time is being eaten up by family, work and other social commitments, but dh and I wish you all the best”.

I think that is a fairly clear and polite way of saying you don’t wish to socialise with her further.

Ladysodor · 02/03/2025 10:45

YABU - and very superior and ungrateful!

biscuitsandbooks · 02/03/2025 10:43

What mainly comes across though is that you don’t seem to like or respect your friend tbh, so probably best for their sake to call it a day.

Exactly this. If I were OP's friends, I'd be pretty hurt that she'd gone to all this effort to write a mean-spirited thread about my poor food and hosting skills.

Cattery · 02/03/2025 10:40

CalleOcho · 01/03/2025 20:31

have an old friend who regularly invites me and my husband around for dinner, and either serves us shop-bought pizzas or asks to order takeaway. AIBU to think this is weird and lazy?

Yes YABU.

Don’t go if you don’t want to eat shop bought pizza or takeaway.

Jesus, I couldn’t imagine writing such a bitchy and snobby thread about a friend.

Do them a favour and end the friendship.

I agree. Isn’t the evening more about catching up with friends than critiquing the food?

GingerGirl4549 · 02/03/2025 10:38

OtterlyMad · 02/03/2025 09:01

Thanks. I’ve not responded to the people who have been patronising (I’ve lost 4 stone, I don’t need to be lectured on weight loss strategies!) or said we should just skip lunch (I’m not going to starve myself all day just so I can ‘treat myself’ to a mediocre takeaway). We go to their house because we understand their childcare predicament; I really don’t think it’s too much for them to return the courtesy by serving their guests a simple pasta bake or chicken salad…

Exactly, I'm the same. I don't want to be pressured or bullied into eating something I know will make me feel awful just to please someone else. It's hurt me that they won't be a bit more understanding or mindful and as I said, I'm 100% willing, like you, to take my own food. I just don't get it. Well done on your weightloss. Ive done 5 stone in the last year, I'm not going to jeopardise that for an Aldi frozen pizza or a domino's that I won't even enjoy.

Shepherdscrookish335 · 02/03/2025 10:36

OtterlyMad · 02/03/2025 10:01

I said we’re DIFFERENT - that doesn’t mean “superior” or “better than”. Of course we have different experiences and priorities when she’s got children and we haven’t! And I think it’s very normal for people to socialise less when they have kids. Your comment reeks of insecurity.

I’m too old to be insecure thanks 😄

You said they were different, yes, but you conveniently missed out the bit where you wrote,

“but I guess when you have kids you have fewer opportunities to socialise so you cling on to that old school friend and her husband because they’re better than nothing?”

which come across very much as if you think they are desperate for your friendship because they have no means or ability to meet other people? And that is quite a judgemental and condescending pov imho.

I’m past all of that now, but when I had school age dc, some of the most dynamic, sociable and interesting people I knew were sahms who led very interesting lives.

What mainly comes across though is that you don’t seem to like or respect your friend tbh, so probably best for their sake to call it a day.

roses2 · 02/03/2025 10:31

Possibly they are shit cooks, live off processed food and are embarrassed. I know many people like this.

If you like them either suck it up or go for evening drinks and nibbles after you’ve had dinner at home.

BettyBardMacDonald · 02/03/2025 10:26

"Thanks so much, Sarah. We've got a lot on at the moment so can't really commit. Hope you're all enjoying spring. Take care."

"That's kind of you but our schedules are fairly unpredictable these days with work and some ongoing family matters"

"Thanks for the invite but I am swamped at work & hours are less predictable these days."

Then taper off and don't respond to each text.

biscuitsandbooks · 02/03/2025 10:16

OtterlyMad · 02/03/2025 10:13

We don’t prioritise food over time/company, but this thread has helped me realise we no longer have much in common with these people so we’re enjoying their company less as time goes by, which is probably why the lack of effort with the food has come to bother me.

The issue is this friend doesn’t invite us over on specific days, she literally messages “Please can you guys come over for dinner again soon? Name a date!” It’s much harder to decline or side step invites when they’re so open, I can’t exactly say “sorry we’re unavailable forever”… any suggestion how to respond in the least hurtful way possible?

Just say you'd rather go out, or that it's your turn to host and they're welcome to bring the children?

OtterlyMad · 02/03/2025 10:13

toomuchfaff · 02/03/2025 10:01

she’s the one constantly asking to meet up

It seems your wants from the friendship differ greatly. You'd do them a service stepping away, they seem to emphasise the time and company whereas you put more emphasis on the quality of the food.

Ah we cant make it, we are out that weekend.

Oh no we have plans that Saturday.

oh no Bob's working that evening. Next time, for sure...

You've many ways to side step out of the invite aside from agreeing to go to their house if it no longer brings you what you want from the relationship.

We don’t prioritise food over time/company, but this thread has helped me realise we no longer have much in common with these people so we’re enjoying their company less as time goes by, which is probably why the lack of effort with the food has come to bother me.

The issue is this friend doesn’t invite us over on specific days, she literally messages “Please can you guys come over for dinner again soon? Name a date!” It’s much harder to decline or side step invites when they’re so open, I can’t exactly say “sorry we’re unavailable forever”… any suggestion how to respond in the least hurtful way possible?

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Shepherdscrookish335 · 02/03/2025 10:12

BettyBardMacDonald · 02/03/2025 09:53

I think offering decent hospitality demands some effort. Treating adult guests to the type of food a teenager might make for an afternoon snack is pretty lazy and low class.

Quality of food has very little correlation with class imho. Some of the worst food I have ever eaten has been served by very high born folk who I used to work for. Their hospitality was spot on though because they made me feel very welcome,

Personally I like to make a reasonable effort because I enjoy cooking but even then hosting dinner properly is a big effort and expensive nowadays, and my dc have left home.

But maybe this family offers frozen pizza because they are challenged in the budget department or are simply not interested in food. Or their house or kitchen is not set up for elaborate cooking . Once an invitation has been accepted; it’s up to us to be appreciative if you ask me!

biscuitsandbooks · 02/03/2025 10:10

BettyBardMacDonald · 02/03/2025 10:09

@biscuitsandbooks

Some people enjoy higher level aesthetics, ambience and food. It's not morally superior to have low standards.

I didn't say it was Confused

But I just can't imagine getting offended by a frozen pizza - I go to my friends to socialise with them, not to worry about the aesthetic and ambience Hmm

BettyBardMacDonald · 02/03/2025 10:09

@biscuitsandbooks

Some people enjoy higher level aesthetics, ambience and food. It's not morally superior to have low standards.

toomuchfaff · 02/03/2025 10:01

OtterlyMad · 02/03/2025 07:22

Unfortunately I don’t think she feels the same way, as she’s the one constantly asking to meet up - extracting ourselves from the friendship is going to be tricky. But that’s a different problem entirely!

she’s the one constantly asking to meet up

It seems your wants from the friendship differ greatly. You'd do them a service stepping away, they seem to emphasise the time and company whereas you put more emphasis on the quality of the food.

Ah we cant make it, we are out that weekend.

Oh no we have plans that Saturday.

oh no Bob's working that evening. Next time, for sure...

You've many ways to side step out of the invite aside from agreeing to go to their house if it no longer brings you what you want from the relationship.

OtterlyMad · 02/03/2025 10:01

Shepherdscrookish335 · 02/03/2025 09:47

Wow op. You really do come across as thinking yourself superior in every way.

Poor little sahm, with no opportunities to make friends and apparently no intellectual resources either.

Maybe she invites you because she likes you and your dh? And it’s as simple as that? Maybe she is assuming, incorrectly, that you like them just for themselves too?

Maybe she doesn’t cook because she is fed up of cooking for her dc and fancies a night off.

An invitation is just that. You are not obligated to accept. Personally I’m delighted when anyone takes the trouble to invite and host me and I am there for their friendship not the meal.

It’s the height of bad manners to
accept hospitality and then complain about it, so I’m glad you have worked that out during the course of this thread.

Edited

I said we’re DIFFERENT - that doesn’t mean “superior” or “better than”. Of course we have different experiences and priorities when she’s got children and we haven’t! And I think it’s very normal for people to socialise less when they have kids. Your comment reeks of insecurity.

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biscuitsandbooks · 02/03/2025 09:54

BettyBardMacDonald · 02/03/2025 09:53

I think offering decent hospitality demands some effort. Treating adult guests to the type of food a teenager might make for an afternoon snack is pretty lazy and low class.

I don't give two hoots what I'm served when I visit friends - I'm there to socialise and spend time with them. The food is very much secondary to that.

Moonnstars · 02/03/2025 09:54

OtterlyMad · 02/03/2025 09:50

No you’ve completely distorted what I said. I mentioned other people had served us homemade pizza before. I’m not expecting this friend and her husband to put on a proper dinner party or make pizza from scratch. It would just be nice for them to put in a little more thought/effort, seen as we make the effort to travel to their home, pay for a taxi, etc.

Personally I enjoy time with friends where it is low effort. You do come across as having high expectations and sounds like you should stick to 'other people' who put on a show. And as others have said, if you liked the friend none of this would really matter.

BettyBardMacDonald · 02/03/2025 09:53

biscuitsandbooks · 02/03/2025 09:39

I can't imagine being offended because someone served me a frozen pizza.

You clearly don't like them so why bother?

I think offering decent hospitality demands some effort. Treating adult guests to the type of food a teenager might make for an afternoon snack is pretty lazy and low class.

biscuitsandbooks · 02/03/2025 09:52

OtterlyMad · 02/03/2025 09:50

No you’ve completely distorted what I said. I mentioned other people had served us homemade pizza before. I’m not expecting this friend and her husband to put on a proper dinner party or make pizza from scratch. It would just be nice for them to put in a little more thought/effort, seen as we make the effort to travel to their home, pay for a taxi, etc.

You're focusing on the food because you don't like them - if they were proper friends, you wouldn't care what they served you.

OtterlyMad · 02/03/2025 09:50

Moonnstars · 02/03/2025 09:36

This is where I think you are being rude, here you are saying she is basically lazy by not hosting a proper dinner party. I think you need to just cut this friendship as you clearly want different things.

I am with your friend and would love to be invited round to someone's house and have a relaxing evening of takeaway and chat. But I also have children so maybe this is the difference.

No you’ve completely distorted what I said. I mentioned other people had served us homemade pizza before. I’m not expecting this friend and her husband to put on a proper dinner party or make pizza from scratch. It would just be nice for them to put in a little more thought/effort, seen as we make the effort to travel to their home, pay for a taxi, etc.

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biscuitsandbooks · 02/03/2025 09:50

Women judge other women . This thread is a prime example of that

I know. Notice how nobody is judging the DH for not cooking a slap up meal for the guests? Hmm