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Fancy dress isn't for fat people.

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tiedyewhale · 01/03/2025 17:03

I’ve worried my friend a bit and want to know if I was unreasonable.

My friend has an anniversary coming up. She’s planned a party. We were having drinks and she said that the invites were going out soon and she’d picked a fantastic fancy dress theme (can’t what it is, too outing.)

All our other friends were excited - and then she saw my face. I made a joke about being grinchy about fancy dress, but that I was still very much looking forward to the party. She point blank asked me why I disliked fancy dress, and I’d had a few wines, and so I told her…

I’m fat. I’m 5’2” and was 16 stone. I’m now 13.5 stone and losing steadily but realistically I’ll be fat for a long time still. I’ve been fat for 15 years. My other friends are all slim (and about 5 inches taller!) It’s really easy when you’re a slender/standard size to go into a charity shop and get fun cheap things that fit the theme and which look great. As a size 18 -20 pickings are slim and usually dreadful. I spend a lot of time choosing nice going out clothes that don’t make me feel awful and that I feel confident in, but I’ll end up at a fancy dress party in something unflattering that makes me sad.

Buying ready made fancy dress is worse- nasty cheap material, usually slightly slutty.

At a 60s hen party a few years ago everyone was rocking fun micro mini dresses and knee boots they’d got in charity shops. They had nothing in my size so I was in some flares I’d had to order from Shien and a T-shirt I’d had to tie dye myself. The picture of us all just makes me feel terribly upset. I look like a tie dye whale. I did have a flattering wrap dress that I loved and made me happy but obviously couldn’t wear it. Dressing is just so much harder as a larger person.

Now, me being fat is a me problem. I’m fully aware of that, and I’m now finally managing to lose weight. This is my friend’s party and I’ll go regardless, and try not to feel like a self conscious lump. My friend is lovely and it’s not her fault I’m fat and that fancy dress makes me sad. But- other fat friends all feel the same. Fancy dress is a slim woman’s game.

My friend (5’10”, size 8) looks amazing in pretty much anything. She’s picked a theme that’s a bit risqué and will look sensational while I just can’t think of what I’ll do. I also work full time, have 3 junior aged children and a seriously unwell mother so no time to visit lots of shops/ make something.

As I said my friend is lovely and I feel sad that I’ve worried her. She asked her MIL, SIL and neighbour (all larger people) and apparently they all said the same as me- her MIL said she "dreaded" fancy dress. She’s now rethinking the theme or thinking of making it optional but I think that’ll be worse- people are lazy, there will only be a few people who bother dressing up and it’ll be a shame as it’s not what she wants.

I stand by my premise that fancy dress isn’t for fat people but was I unreasonable for saying something? She did ask….

(Ps I know I was wrong. How do I fix this?)

OP posts:
MySpaceQueen · 01/03/2025 19:46

Congratulations on your weight loss to date !!

that’s excellent progress !! 💪

LionME · 01/03/2025 19:43

cardibach · 01/03/2025 19:23

If some of your intended guests will really dislike what you are going to do and either refuse to come or come but feel shit all night, why would you choose it? Because some people would enjoy? Even though those people would enjoy a non- fancy-dress party too? It’s not great hosting, is it?

Edited

The problem is that most people do what the OP did before.
They either make excuses or don’t say anything and suffer in silence because they don’t want to spoil their friends fun.

And so it continues because actually the dislike for those fancy dress parties isn’t so strong that they actually step in and say to the host ‘you know what, I hate those things so I’m not coming’ (Regardless of the reason btw). And yes some people actually like it too.

bringthecactusin · 01/03/2025 19:43

KateReddy · 01/03/2025 19:26

I could have said “read the fucking OP, they’ve already said there’s a theme but they’re not going to reveal what it is” but that would have been ‘snarky’.

What would be helpful would be people not posting on threads that they haven’t bothered to read, it’s not compulsory to contribute.

Yeah but for muppets like me who virtually read it with a magnifying glass and the penny didn't drop you were specifically referring to her wish NOT to disclose, when I was just scouring it for a theme I couldn't see it would have been mega helpful, not sarky 🤣🤣

BellissimoGecko · 01/03/2025 19:42

Vitriolinsanity · 01/03/2025 17:46

I'm all for the grotesque when it comes to fancy dress.

Moulin Rouge / go as the windmill.

😂😂😂

TwistedWonder · 01/03/2025 19:41

tiedyewhale · 01/03/2025 19:36

@cardibach

"Can’t think of many outfits I’d less like to go out in. Honestly, it’s just bollocks"

Yup. I feel you. I don't want to be the funny fat friend. I'm a single mum to 3 kids with a dying mother. I want to go to a party, look good, relax, feel happy, flirt a bit if there are any single men and have a few hours away from feeling shit about everything while I pay for a wildly expensive babysitter.

I'm not doing any of that dressed as a Smurf.

Your Smurf comment reminded me that many years ago one of my neighbours had a fancy dress party and a few blokes got drunk and kicked off.

I can still remember watching out the window as grown men dressed as Baby and Scary spice were having a punch up with a Smurf and Fred Flinstone - wish we had ring doorbells back then 🤣

BellissimoGecko · 01/03/2025 19:41

tiedyewhale · 01/03/2025 17:07

It's worth noting that my mum, never known for her charitable interpretation of people's motives(!) feels my friend picks fancy dress all the time because it gives her an excuse to wear some quite outrageous skimpy outfits that she looks amazing in and that you just couldn't wear normally....
She might be right but TBH if I had a figure like hers I'd do the school run in a bikini so fair play to her.

😂

You sound lovely. Well done on your weight loss journey do far. You're doing great!

I'm sure your friend will want all her friends to be happy and comfortable. You didn't do anything wrong by telling her what you think of fancy dress! Sounds like she's a good friend.

cardibach · 01/03/2025 19:41

Californianpoppy · 01/03/2025 19:38

I love fancy dress. But I don't think it should be about looking sexy- I can do that any time. I like to look aa ridiculous as possible in fancy dress. Otherwise what's the point?

Indeed. What is the point? Most people don’t want to look ridiculous.

MyLimeGuide · 01/03/2025 19:40

Howcoulduoudothsr · 01/03/2025 19:00

I'm 59, speak for yourself!

She is speaking for herself.

Californianpoppy · 01/03/2025 19:38

I love fancy dress. But I don't think it should be about looking sexy- I can do that any time. I like to look aa ridiculous as possible in fancy dress. Otherwise what's the point?

LionME · 01/03/2025 19:37

A lot of people can’t imagine anything beyond their own experience.
Its the same with being disabled, having a chronic illness etc…

Just look at your friend. She couldn’t imagine you’d be right saying that being overweight/obese made it really hard to do the whole fancy dress thing. She had to check with several people close to her before starting to acknowledge how hard it is.
It doesn’t say anything particularly bad about your friend btw. I think it’s more of a reflection that people ‘don’t think’ much beyond what’s right in front of their eyes.

tiedyewhale · 01/03/2025 19:36

@cardibach

"Can’t think of many outfits I’d less like to go out in. Honestly, it’s just bollocks"

Yup. I feel you. I don't want to be the funny fat friend. I'm a single mum to 3 kids with a dying mother. I want to go to a party, look good, relax, feel happy, flirt a bit if there are any single men and have a few hours away from feeling shit about everything while I pay for a wildly expensive babysitter.

I'm not doing any of that dressed as a Smurf.

OP posts:
cardibach · 01/03/2025 19:36

QueSyrahSyrah · 01/03/2025 19:35

@cardibach I don't think you're miserable, I just don't think you should be claiming to speak for everybody!

According to MN lore it's 'not great hosting' to invite anyone to anything ever as being a guest is always a huge imposition and expense apparently, so I can only recommend declining things you'd rather not attend Wink

I do. I love a social event and it pisses me off, but fancy dress is a hard no. Not everyone is as confident though.

justasking111 · 01/03/2025 19:35

Friends went as characters from Yellowstone. Checked shirt, jeans, cowboy hat. That's a doddle.

QueSyrahSyrah · 01/03/2025 19:35

@cardibach I don't think you're miserable, I just don't think you should be claiming to speak for everybody!

According to MN lore it's 'not great hosting' to invite anyone to anything ever as being a guest is always a huge imposition and expense apparently, so I can only recommend declining things you'd rather not attend Wink

TheMorels · 01/03/2025 19:34

Fancy dress is for children imo and any adult that likes it is peculiar at best. I have a couple of fat friends and being forced into fancy dress would be a nightmare for them.

TheOccupier · 01/03/2025 19:33

Accessories are your friend here, OP!

TwoRobins · 01/03/2025 19:30

I totally get it, OP. YANBU.

niadainud · 01/03/2025 19:26

bringthecactusin · 01/03/2025 18:50

Clearly having an off day!! 🤦🏻‍♀️

People could still state it rather just hollering "READ THE OP!"

Sorry, but it just gets really annoying!

OP: I have two children (8 and 10) and they both like going to the park but I'm too busy to take them all the time. Should I let them go on their own?

1st Poster: How many children do you have?

2nd Poster: How old are your children?

3rd Poster: What do your children like doing in their spare time?

4th Poster: Have you thought about letting them go to the park on their own?

Etc.

(Sorry for derailing, OP!)

KateReddy · 01/03/2025 19:26

bringthecactusin · 01/03/2025 18:44

Well I've read it twice and I still can't see it. Only the bit where's the OP says she won't state it as it's too outing.

You could at least be helpful in your reply, even if it IS in the post (which it isn't that I can see!). Why choose to be snarky when you could be helpful?

I could have said “read the fucking OP, they’ve already said there’s a theme but they’re not going to reveal what it is” but that would have been ‘snarky’.

What would be helpful would be people not posting on threads that they haven’t bothered to read, it’s not compulsory to contribute.

cardibach · 01/03/2025 19:25

JayJayEl · 01/03/2025 19:19

I'm sad for you. Fair enough not enjoying fancy dress, but you just sound downright miserable! You don't like it, great. You don't speak for the general population, though. 😂

Im as far from miserable as it’s possible to be. Love my life. Very sociable. Busy all the time. None of this is conditional on enjoying painting myself blue and wrapping a towel round my head.
Why are the lovers of fancy dress so insecure that they think anyone not liking it must be miserable?

cardibach · 01/03/2025 19:23

QueSyrahSyrah · 01/03/2025 19:16

@cardibach Have a day off. If you, and the OP, and others on the thread don't like fancy dress then that's absolutely fine, but not everybody hates it, you can't speak for everyone! Granted a broad theme is easier than something specific but there's always a way to find something fun and comfortable.

A friend of mine used to have an annual fancy dress house party for her birthday and it genuinely was the highlight of many social calendars. No pressure to dress up but everyone made a nod to it, some just wore a cardboard mask or a hat and some went all-in for whatever the theme was that year (I'll add that she stopped because she had kids and house parties going on until 5am weren't appropriate any more, not for lack of interest!).

Outing potentially but over various years I went as a tattoo artist (normal clothes and a load of wash-off tattoos) lion tamer (full purpose made outfit), Lichtenstein painting (spotty dress, spotty tights, bright blue wig, homemade speech bubble on a headband, eye liner spots all over my face).

I'd love to know what the OP's theme is so specific advice could be offered!

If some of your intended guests will really dislike what you are going to do and either refuse to come or come but feel shit all night, why would you choose it? Because some people would enjoy? Even though those people would enjoy a non- fancy-dress party too? It’s not great hosting, is it?

JayJayEl · 01/03/2025 19:19

cardibach · 01/03/2025 19:02

Can’t think of many outfits I’d less like to go out in. Honestly, it’s just bollocks.

I'm sad for you. Fair enough not enjoying fancy dress, but you just sound downright miserable! You don't like it, great. You don't speak for the general population, though. 😂

ItGhoul · 01/03/2025 19:19

tiedyewhale · 01/03/2025 17:07

It's worth noting that my mum, never known for her charitable interpretation of people's motives(!) feels my friend picks fancy dress all the time because it gives her an excuse to wear some quite outrageous skimpy outfits that she looks amazing in and that you just couldn't wear normally....
She might be right but TBH if I had a figure like hers I'd do the school run in a bikini so fair play to her.

Your mum’s right. Not that there’s anything wrong with your friend doing that - all power to her for enjoying it. But your mum’s spot on.

I agree that fancy dress is particularly tiresome when you’re bigger. I’ve been a whole range of sizes and when at my biggest I’ve turned down invitations for that reason.

QueSyrahSyrah · 01/03/2025 19:16

@cardibach Have a day off. If you, and the OP, and others on the thread don't like fancy dress then that's absolutely fine, but not everybody hates it, you can't speak for everyone! Granted a broad theme is easier than something specific but there's always a way to find something fun and comfortable.

A friend of mine used to have an annual fancy dress house party for her birthday and it genuinely was the highlight of many social calendars. No pressure to dress up but everyone made a nod to it, some just wore a cardboard mask or a hat and some went all-in for whatever the theme was that year (I'll add that she stopped because she had kids and house parties going on until 5am weren't appropriate any more, not for lack of interest!).

Outing potentially but over various years I went as a tattoo artist (normal clothes and a load of wash-off tattoos) lion tamer (full purpose made outfit), Lichtenstein painting (spotty dress, spotty tights, bright blue wig, homemade speech bubble on a headband, eye liner spots all over my face).

I'd love to know what the OP's theme is so specific advice could be offered!

Cardiganwearer · 01/03/2025 19:15

Absolutely agree. It was awful as a plump child too. I knew as a nine year old that it was fine for the slimmer kids but I would not look good. I don’t care so much now but I feel sad for young me.