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Fancy dress isn't for fat people.

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tiedyewhale · 01/03/2025 17:03

I’ve worried my friend a bit and want to know if I was unreasonable.

My friend has an anniversary coming up. She’s planned a party. We were having drinks and she said that the invites were going out soon and she’d picked a fantastic fancy dress theme (can’t what it is, too outing.)

All our other friends were excited - and then she saw my face. I made a joke about being grinchy about fancy dress, but that I was still very much looking forward to the party. She point blank asked me why I disliked fancy dress, and I’d had a few wines, and so I told her…

I’m fat. I’m 5’2” and was 16 stone. I’m now 13.5 stone and losing steadily but realistically I’ll be fat for a long time still. I’ve been fat for 15 years. My other friends are all slim (and about 5 inches taller!) It’s really easy when you’re a slender/standard size to go into a charity shop and get fun cheap things that fit the theme and which look great. As a size 18 -20 pickings are slim and usually dreadful. I spend a lot of time choosing nice going out clothes that don’t make me feel awful and that I feel confident in, but I’ll end up at a fancy dress party in something unflattering that makes me sad.

Buying ready made fancy dress is worse- nasty cheap material, usually slightly slutty.

At a 60s hen party a few years ago everyone was rocking fun micro mini dresses and knee boots they’d got in charity shops. They had nothing in my size so I was in some flares I’d had to order from Shien and a T-shirt I’d had to tie dye myself. The picture of us all just makes me feel terribly upset. I look like a tie dye whale. I did have a flattering wrap dress that I loved and made me happy but obviously couldn’t wear it. Dressing is just so much harder as a larger person.

Now, me being fat is a me problem. I’m fully aware of that, and I’m now finally managing to lose weight. This is my friend’s party and I’ll go regardless, and try not to feel like a self conscious lump. My friend is lovely and it’s not her fault I’m fat and that fancy dress makes me sad. But- other fat friends all feel the same. Fancy dress is a slim woman’s game.

My friend (5’10”, size 8) looks amazing in pretty much anything. She’s picked a theme that’s a bit risqué and will look sensational while I just can’t think of what I’ll do. I also work full time, have 3 junior aged children and a seriously unwell mother so no time to visit lots of shops/ make something.

As I said my friend is lovely and I feel sad that I’ve worried her. She asked her MIL, SIL and neighbour (all larger people) and apparently they all said the same as me- her MIL said she "dreaded" fancy dress. She’s now rethinking the theme or thinking of making it optional but I think that’ll be worse- people are lazy, there will only be a few people who bother dressing up and it’ll be a shame as it’s not what she wants.

I stand by my premise that fancy dress isn’t for fat people but was I unreasonable for saying something? She did ask….

(Ps I know I was wrong. How do I fix this?)

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Vitriolinsanity · 02/03/2025 20:22

But we didn't all walk around in flourished gear in the 80's

Big cardboard box, stick coloured squares all over and go as a Rubix Cube.

Take a placard objecting to the Poll Tax

Red dress, red hat, bottle of Merlot and you're the Lady In Red

Whyamiherenow · 02/03/2025 20:19

I have a blue cape my friends mum made me
out of an old bed sheet years ago with my initial stitched to it. I wear it to all fancy dress parties! Capes are very forgiving! superhero party - I’ve got a cape….. easter party the super Easter bunny ….. it is a standing joke now! Find a signature and embrace it.

keffie12 · 02/03/2025 20:19

I hate fancy dress! I did when I was 10-12 in size. I'm bigger now. I was size 16. Now back to a 14. Even if i was 10-12 again, it's not for me. I suspect a lot of people feel the same

Vitriolinsanity · 02/03/2025 20:11

Or, white nightie, blue lips and clutching a door made of cardboard. Walk around going Jack! Jack!

Vitriolinsanity · 02/03/2025 20:08

I got distracted by the earlier shipwreck theme.

White sheet with hole cut out. Arrow on head pointing to North Pole and carry a penguin/polar bear (stuffed natch). Instant iceberg!

AliAtHome · 02/03/2025 19:51

I’m not thrilled about fancy dress. Regardless of size. If it’s not something I can get fully behind - I wear what I feel good I and give a ‘nod’ to the theme with with accessories/fabric or colour choices. For example at Christening May wear jewellery/headdress/sparky tights etc - but not Christmas jumpers

Jetandianto · 02/03/2025 19:42

I feel your pain. I’m size 24 and 5ft 1 inch, I have some lovely dresses that make me feel good but I have to have a 1980s costume by Saturday. I can buy a vile fluorescent shell suit off the internet but I will feel uncomfortable all night 😢

ViciousCurrentBun · 02/03/2025 18:45

Go as the ringmaster

Top hat, Bright red riding style jacket with brass buttons and black leggings with knee high boots and a riding crop. It is a glamorous but less revealing outfit. You could tie some fine black and red veiling to the top hat. Just tie it round and have a long swish of it at the back.

I love fancy dress, made loads and for others including a full set of armour. Mother was on stage when young and I grew up in a boho showbizzy slightly eccentric atmosphere.

IntoTheVoid68 · 02/03/2025 18:41

Ah I’ve now read all your posts. So it’s a burlesque theme.
Your friend is definitely wanting to wear something risqué and skimpy but she does sound like a good friend.
I have a beautiful turquoise feathered hair clip which would fit this theme. I bought it for my 40th birthday party. it’s quite ostentatious but tasteful.

I’d happily let you borrow it if you wanted?

IntoTheVoid68 · 02/03/2025 18:37

Ilovecleaning · 02/03/2025 18:34

Yes. She can turn up wearing what she likes. What is going to happen? Is she going to be thrown out of the party?
Or she could take a leaf out of Wednesday Addam’s book who turned up to a Fancy Dress party in her ordinary clothes: ‘ I’ve come as a serial killer because they look just the same as everybody else.’ 🤣

LOVE IT!
A serial killer 😂✊

Ilovecleaning · 02/03/2025 18:34

IntoTheVoid68 · 02/03/2025 18:29

YANBU.
I hate fancy dress and I suspect that your mum is right about her and the skimpy costumes.

Wear whatever YOU feel comfortable in. You DO not need to dress up.
You might be able to accessorise with some suitable jewellery/scarf etc.
I’m great at finding stuff online so if you wanted to message me and tell me the theme, I’d be very happy to help.

Yes. She can turn up wearing what she likes. What is going to happen? Is she going to be thrown out of the party?
Or she could take a leaf out of Wednesday Addam’s book who turned up to a Fancy Dress party in her ordinary clothes: ‘ I’ve come as a serial killer because they look just the same as everybody else.’ 🤣

Girasole02 · 02/03/2025 18:32

MyLimeGuide · 01/03/2025 19:12

We do have to :-( it's a SEN school so not actually compulsory i guess but all teachers and TAS do dress up, very frowned upon if we don't!

I used to wear all black and my Harry Potter scarf.

IntoTheVoid68 · 02/03/2025 18:29

YANBU.
I hate fancy dress and I suspect that your mum is right about her and the skimpy costumes.

Wear whatever YOU feel comfortable in. You DO not need to dress up.
You might be able to accessorise with some suitable jewellery/scarf etc.
I’m great at finding stuff online so if you wanted to message me and tell me the theme, I’d be very happy to help.

imtheholidayarmadillo · 02/03/2025 18:28

TheStarOfTheShow · 01/03/2025 19:57

You're incredibly negative I felt horrid reading your post your energy is so depressing I can only imagine how hard it must be to be you right now and with being a single mum with a dying mother this is such a tough time I hope you having in person support and therapy.

On the main point of the thread I think you were the other spectrum of being seld absorbed in that like your friend has no hang ups about dressing up, you are also too self absorbed in ruining the fun because you have created rules and barriers to what you can and can't wear.

I think it would be best to talk about your own self than generalise about all fat people because even if this thread fills up with confirmation bias it isn't the truth, certainly not my truth. I think your self loathing will continue even at a normal BMI because it sounds like it runs deep. You can refer to yourself as fat but hating yourself into change does not work long term.

I'm sad to say you've done this thing were slim people feel they have to tiptoe around fat people or alienate them just because you are skint and hate yourself too much you don't speak for other fat people. Just say YOU don't want to do it. Not all fat people think and feel like you do about yourself.

I suspect your username says an awful lot about you, and not in a good way.

Some of your posts on this thread are disgusting.

MightAsWellBeGretel · 02/03/2025 18:28

Dressing up is only fun if you feel you look good and I never look good.

I've never considered this before, but I can completely see your point.

I think also people who are confident in their bodies and looks are happier to be seen as unattractive as a one off - like the effort Heidi Klum goes to at Halloween. Everyone knows she's beautiful, so it's fun to be something else, I guess. The majority of us mere mortals want to feel good and better than usual when we go to a party.

deademptyduck · 02/03/2025 18:28

I so agree with you! I'm under 5 foot and size 18 and fancy dress is my idea of hell. Much better to do a hat or accessory theme. I guess if you've always been an off the peg person you never think of these things.

Ilovecleaning · 02/03/2025 18:28

I HATE being dictated to like this. I wouldn’t go.
I posted on a similar thread a couple of years ago: a friend hosted a 60s themed/ hippy party. We turned up looking idiotic but willing to join in the fun.
She was wearing slim black trousers, a silk turquoise top, little diamond earrings and she looked great. She said ‘Oh, I didn’t get round to getting an outfit.’
I was bloody livid. Everybody looked like a dick except her.

Ilovecleaning · 02/03/2025 18:20

tiedyewhale · 01/03/2025 17:07

It's worth noting that my mum, never known for her charitable interpretation of people's motives(!) feels my friend picks fancy dress all the time because it gives her an excuse to wear some quite outrageous skimpy outfits that she looks amazing in and that you just couldn't wear normally....
She might be right but TBH if I had a figure like hers I'd do the school run in a bikini so fair play to her.

I think your mum could be right.

JayJayEl · 02/03/2025 15:21

cardibach · 01/03/2025 19:25

Im as far from miserable as it’s possible to be. Love my life. Very sociable. Busy all the time. None of this is conditional on enjoying painting myself blue and wrapping a towel round my head.
Why are the lovers of fancy dress so insecure that they think anyone not liking it must be miserable?

It's nothing to do with not liking fancy dress and everything to do with your miserable sounding replies. It's nice to hear that I'm wrong,though. )

cardibach · 02/03/2025 10:34

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 02/03/2025 00:16

Or you just don't like it...

You can easily make a fancy dress costume for less than £30. Even as a "fat" girl. And be perfectly comfortable

Comiccons are all day events. I've done costumes for less than £30 and worn them all day

That’s £30 I didn’t need to spend as I have clothes. And £30 on something I’ll never use again which could have been used for something enjoyable 🤷‍♀️
I get that some people like it, but many don't. With that in mind, it’s poor hosting to make people uncomfortable.

MxFlibble · 02/03/2025 08:07

TheStarOfTheShow · 01/03/2025 20:03

I feel so sorry for the postets on here. Fat people can be so fatphobic. You're really your worst enemies it's no wonder.
I really wish you all some self love and respect for 2025.

Being realistic isn't being phobic.

I'm fat, I was fatter - stuff fits better and looks better now that I'm less fat. That's just how it is. I have made my own clothes, had some lovely pieces, but, they all look worse on a big, squishy body which doesn't stay the same shape than they would on a slim body - that's just how it is.

It's not being an enemy to myself - I like myself, I'm very good at lots of things, but the fat my body is clothed in is an issue. I've moved past feeling guilty for being fat, it's just how I'm built, and working through that has helped a lot, but I am fat, I don't look or move as well as I would if I was slim and lying to myself about that would be much worse than facing it head on.

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 02/03/2025 00:16

cardibach · 01/03/2025 18:07

It’s not about enjoying anything. It’s about the fact that fancy dress is expensive, uncomfortable bollocks and the ‘I’m mad me’ people who push it need to give it up.

Or you just don't like it...

You can easily make a fancy dress costume for less than £30. Even as a "fat" girl. And be perfectly comfortable

Comiccons are all day events. I've done costumes for less than £30 and worn them all day

Kitkatfiend31 · 01/03/2025 23:24

CeruleanBelt · 01/03/2025 17:09

I'm the same height and weight as you and I'm a size 14-16 - i was a size 18-20 at 16st.

I get your point about the fancy dress, i hate fancy dress but you've lost a significant amount of weight, i doubt you're still a size 20. If you say what the theme is people may be able to come up with ideas that you might like and feel comfortable with.

And fat people can absolutely wear fancy dress if they want to. Please don't use your insecurity to put down other fat people.

I'm a similar height and weight and am certainly a size 18-20. We're all different.

latetothefisting · 01/03/2025 23:05

tiedyewhale · 01/03/2025 17:14

I think that's the thing- I hate dressing up. I'm sure there will be loads of body confident size 18s telling me that I'm wrong and should love myself but that's not possible for me and frankly for the majority of the larger women I know. I see myself standing there awkwardly in ill fitting man made fibres and cringe.
Dressing up is only fun if you feel you look good and I never look good.

but, kindly, this is a 'you' thing. You don't speak for all fat women.
Some fat women LOVE fancy dress
Some slim women (and men) absolutely hate it

YANBU to hate it, for any reason, but your reason doesn't trump anyone else's reason, or make it more of a universal truth. You don't like fancy dress because you think it's hard to get good costumes in a larger size but other people might hate it because they dislike the ethical/financial element of buying stuff they will never wear again, or just because they hate looking 'silly' or don't like trying to be creative. All valid personal reasons for disliking it, but they are just that, personal, not universal.

You don't have to fix anything, because you didn't do anything wrong.
Your friend will be aware that some people don't like fancy dress but she picked the theme anyway. That's fine, it's her birthday party. She doesn't have to change it for you, but you don't have to pretend to be happy with it for her. All you can do is decide a) whether you want to go, and b) if yes, to what extent you are going to participate

Exactly the same as if it was any other element about a party, like it being too far away, or too expensive, or in a restaurant with food you didn't like or doing an activity you weren't into. Either politely refuse or go with good grace. The only thing that would be rude would be to go but be grumpy and moan about it the whole time.

You're over personalising it and making it all about the fat thing, but it isn't. You've just been invited to a party which has an element you don't fancy - very very common. It doesn't need this angst. You not liking fancy dress doesn't say anything more about you as a person than you not liking indian food or karaoke.

MyLimeGuide · 01/03/2025 22:07

TheStarOfTheShow · 01/03/2025 20:22

I thought my reply was very helpful actually. I told her she needs support for her feelings and that her feelings do not speak for all fat people as her post is very much 'i hate x therefore all fat people hate x and how dare slim people not know this about us'. The op didn't stop at herself she generalised for all fat people and then the thread became a circle jerk for fatphobia. I'm so sorry that you hate yourselves so much but please do not project on others just because they share the same number on the scales or dress size.

I think someone is needing a bit of love and attention in their life, it's ok "@TheStarOfTheShow" there there