To think Britain should have nothing to do with this war

You're not listening. An empire needs to be ruled from the centre. How will this be done without conscripting Russians? If Putin could do this without risking his own position, he would already have done so.

With the conscripts he gets from Ukraine and once he's successful who knows who will flock to his banner, he's already got troops from North Korea

And who's going to keep the Ukrainian cannon fodder subjugated? Putin doesn't want to draft Russians and he doesn't have an infinite number of volunteers.

If Russia is running out of cannon fodder (true) then how is it going to invade the rest of Europe?

Our big pants are now needed. Enough is enough, and if Trump has lost his bottle then we are a big enough continent to continue without them.

Because once they've completed their takeover of Ukraine, the Ukrainians become canon fodder alongside the North Koreans who are already fighting on Putin's behalf.

And exactly what pressure do you think will work?

Honestly, you are coming across as completely gullible naive. Putin WANTS war. He wants to be President not of Russia, but of the USSR. If he gets Ukraine, which countries will then come under into his sights? All of them.

If Russia is running out of cannon fodder (true) then how is it going to invade the rest of Europe?

And exactly what pressure do you think will work?

Honestly, you are coming across as completely gullible naive. Putin WANTS war. He wants to be President not of Russia, but of the USSR. If he gets Ukraine, which countries will then come under into his sights? All of them.

After yesterday's news, Britain shouldn't be the one funding war as USA has said they are out now. There's no chance Britain can fight this war alone with Ukraine against Russia.
Since this war started, our life has only become miserable with CoL increase.
AIBU to think we shouldn't have anything to do this war and we should fix our own problems first before giving away our tax money?

Pressure should be put on Russia to cease fire.

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TW war crimes

Currently, 18% of Ukraine is occupied by Russia which is the same land mass as 45% of the UK.

Imagine 45% of the UK being occupied by, let's say, France, who in this example do not recognise us as a sovereign country. Initially, they demand London capitulates and the government submits to French rule. Obviously, we won't, so they invade our borders and begin to systematically kill off towns and villages, they dig mass graves for the dead (and half dead), forcibly deport our children for adoption by French families (because we are Nazis) rape men and women, old and young, boys and girls, in front of their families, and video the removal of penises of POWs and sharing this on SM. They torture our pets, literally raze the city of Hull to the ground (equivalent to Mariupol in geographical size) and eventually occupy 45% of our land, whilst relentlessly bombing the other 55%, day after day, for three years. Thousands of civilians are killed, 70,000 soldiers dead, likely members of your family and friends.

For those who don't care about this current genocide happening on European soil (3.5 hrs away so closer than the Canaries, Greek Islands etc) let me appeal to your long term security...

I know this line is trotted out ad infinitum but it is the truth - Ukraine is fighting this war for Ukraine first, and Europe second. If Putin conquers Ukraine he will 100% invade the next country on his list. He desperately wants mother Russia to be restored to her rightful place, the most powerful empire in the world. So, whilst he might not want to take anything (much) beyond the Baltic nations, and the UK may remain physically in tact, our sovereignty would depend on the mercy of a monstrous predator with a huge nuclear arsenal, their borders now much closer to home. Make no mistake, we would become increasingly subjugated to Russia, not in the future, but in our lifetimes and most certainly in our children's lifetimes.

You might not want a fight, but they do.

Then you’ll be familiar with Germany ‘reuniting’ with Austria followed by the invasion of Poland and the consequences that followed Europes last attempt at appeasing a megalomaniac dictator.
Russia are NOT currently winning this war - they need it to stop before they run out of cannon fodder… there are ways to end this conflict that don’t entail Russia being allowed to invade and keep another country.

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TW war crimes

Currently, 18% of Ukraine is occupied by Russia which is the same land mass as 45% of the UK.

Imagine 45% of the UK being occupied by, let's say, France, who in this example do not recognise us as a sovereign country. Initially, they demand London capitulates and the government submits to French rule. Obviously, we won't, so they invade our borders and begin to systematically kill off towns and villages, they dig mass graves for the dead (and half dead), forcibly deport our children for adoption by French families (because we are Nazis) rape men and women, old and young, boys and girls, in front of their families, and video the removal of penises of POWs and sharing this on SM. They torture our pets, literally raze the city of Hull to the ground (equivalent to Mariupol in geographical size) and eventually occupy 45% of our land, whilst relentlessly bombing the other 55%, day after day, for three years. Thousands of civilians are killed, 70,000 soldiers dead, likely members of your family and friends.

For those who don't care about this current genocide happening on European soil (3.5 hrs away so closer than the Canaries, Greek Islands etc) let me appeal to your long term security...

I know this line is trotted out ad infinitum but it is the truth - Ukraine is fighting this war for Ukraine first, and Europe second. If Putin conquers Ukraine he will 100% invade the next country on his list. He desperately wants mother Russia to be restored to her rightful place, the most powerful empire in the world. So, whilst he might not want to take anything (much) beyond the Baltic nations, and the UK may remain physically in tact, our sovereignty would depend on the mercy of a monstrous predator with a huge nuclear arsenal, their borders now much closer to home. Make no mistake, we would become increasingly subjugated to Russia, not in the future, but in our lifetimes and most certainly in our children's lifetimes.

You might not want a fight, but they do.

Putting aside the moral arguments, and the lessons of history for a moment and taking your post on face value

• the UK would not be fighting this war alone with Ukraine. Most EU nations will continue to support Ukraine because they know full well that if Putin succeeds they will be next. Together these economies dwarf that of Russia.
• Increasing defence spending will create jobs and stimulate growth and help alleviate the cost of living crisis.

Compared to Trump and Vance he behaved like a saint