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FrequentlyVisited · 01/03/2025 10:30

I try not to watch the news as I’m very concerned about the state of the world.
However after watching yesterday’s horrific meeting between Trump and Zelensky that someone posted to me I’m frightened for the future. Am I being unnecessarily worried that world war 3 is on the cards given that we have madmen Trump, Putin and Starmer at the helm?

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DelilahRay · 01/03/2025 18:50

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KimberleyClark · 01/03/2025 10:39

I was with you until you lumped Starmer in with Trump and Putin. Seriously?

Exactly. Starmer is a very sensible person. You really can't compare him to Trump and Putin.

RaininSummer · 01/03/2025 17:51

Thing is there is absolutely nothing ordinary people can do when these bloody leaders take us to war. Best not to worry about it really.

2dogsandabudgie · 01/03/2025 17:36

None of us are guaranteed tomorrow though, in the UK roughly 1,600 people die every day. Some of those people will be healthy people who have no idea when they wake up in the morning that it will be their last.

We should live in the moment and enjoy each day rather than worry about things which may or may not happen.

itsgettingweird · 01/03/2025 17:29

KimberleyClark · 01/03/2025 10:39

I was with you until you lumped Starmer in with Trump and Putin. Seriously?

That was exactly my first reaction.

Agree or disagree with Starmers policies and decisions he's in no way as mad as Trump and Putin.

Add the names Vance and Musk to the list and that would be closer to the truth!

Barleycat · 01/03/2025 17:28

FrequentlyVisited · 01/03/2025 10:30

I try not to watch the news as I’m very concerned about the state of the world.
However after watching yesterday’s horrific meeting between Trump and Zelensky that someone posted to me I’m frightened for the future. Am I being unnecessarily worried that world war 3 is on the cards given that we have madmen Trump, Putin and Starmer at the helm?

YABVVVVVVVVVU by lumping starmer in with putin and trump. Are you thick or trying to be provocative??

FrequentlyVisited · 01/03/2025 17:26

tallhotpinkflamingo · 01/03/2025 11:16

Wow there are a lot of complacent I'm alright Jack's on this thread, no wonder the world is in so much of a mess with so many apathetic people.

It will make you feel better to do something:

Write to your MP
Sign the petitions going around
Get down to your local Ukraine centre or hub and ask how you can help and what they need
Look up your nearest anti-war marches, plan to attend them
See what volunteering you can do to help, there is also stuff you can do from home if you're happy to get involved with calls or emails
Share what you can to help on social media, including directly contacting people you know are likely to help, and supporting Ukrainians and Ukrainian businesses
If you know anyone hosting refugees, find out if you can help them by going for walks, being an ear, collecting anything, giving lifts etc to give everyone a break
Donate if you can (including to food banks), fundraise if you can't

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Well said, thank you

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Cattreesea · 01/03/2025 15:14

OP first of all Starmer is not a 'mad' man. Even if you don't agree with his politics you should still be able to appreciate that he is a moderate man who does not have the sociopathic behaviour that both Putin and Trump share.

Realistically there is nothing you can do as an individual to impact on what is happening.

Get on with your life and stop obsessing about the news.

Lyannaa · 01/03/2025 15:14

YABU to describe Starmer as 'a madman'. What are you going on about? He's one of the few politicians on the world stage who has the intelligence and diplomacy to stop a war.

If WW3 happens, it won't be next week or even next year. But it could happen when (not if) Putin invades a NATO member.

LadeedahYadaYada · 01/03/2025 15:10

just because it was one camera doesn't mean it hasn't happened in the past behind closed doors. live your life as it's not something you have control over. read "Let them" by Mel Robbins maybe

TheaBrandt1 · 01/03/2025 14:52

We took peace for granted. The post war powers worked hard for peace in Europe. I think 1950-2016 will be seen as a golden era for Europe. These things are cyclical. It’s war now.

ConnieSlow · 01/03/2025 14:51

Pigcasso · 01/03/2025 10:56

People saying it will not happen here, err I have adult kids, I did not have them to be cannon fodder for some egomaniac🙄

So what's your plan then?

TheaBrandt1 · 01/03/2025 14:48

Starmer a “mad man” along with Trump and Putin?! Have you been day drinking?

BallerinaRadio · 01/03/2025 14:47

Starmer a madman 😂

wherethewaterisdarker · 01/03/2025 14:43

Hahahaha at Starmer getting lumped in with the fascist megalomaniac bros! That genuinely made me smile at a dark time geopolitically.

i think you’re right to be worried honestly - it’s the first time in my lifetime (am 40s) where I’ve felt that the likelihood of our lives in the UK/western Europe being impacted seriously by war in the next 5-10 years is quite high.

NamelessNancy · 01/03/2025 14:34

Trump, Putin and Starmer?! Absolutely ridiculous. This "they're all as bad as each other" mentality is so dangerous and part of the reason that actual madmen like the former two manage to gain so much power.

x2boys · 01/03/2025 14:17

FrequentlyVisited · 01/03/2025 10:30

I try not to watch the news as I’m very concerned about the state of the world.
However after watching yesterday’s horrific meeting between Trump and Zelensky that someone posted to me I’m frightened for the future. Am I being unnecessarily worried that world war 3 is on the cards given that we have madmen Trump, Putin and Starmer at the helm?

What's Starmer done?
I'm.no fan.of his but he's hardly up there with Putin and Trump.

Sharptonguedwoman · 01/03/2025 14:14

Notimeforaname · 01/03/2025 10:35

I just tell meself I have no control over it and remind myself that anything could happen tomorrow..I could be hit by a bus blah blah blah, so it keeps me in that mind frame of living in today and still planning all the things I want and hope for.

Please don't put Starmer in with this crew. He may not be perfect but Trump and Vance are just vile.

BoudiccaRising · 01/03/2025 14:02

Panterusblackish · 01/03/2025 11:17

I do think we will see wider war in Europe. With modern long range weaponry it will affect the UK more than in WW2.

I think it is to Trump's advantage to foment war, he will want turmoil in Europe next time he tries to overthrow democracy in the USA. He is already mooting a third term. It was clear he and Vance were spoiling for a fight to try and discredit Zelensky

However worrying and stressing about it will change nothing.

That's an awful lot of people saying it won't happen, I think they just haven't accepted the seismic shift in the global power balance. Of course it is hard to accept that Putin has won the cold war, but won it he has. He now has the current US president and future dictator of the US in his pocket.

The liberalism and post war cooperation of the WW2 era is over. It won't come back until after a huge amount more bloodshed. It will take UK Trump supporters dying and their children dying before they finally see sense.

Don’t be so ridiculous. Trump is going to do a deal with Putin. Don’t you think the little ‘display’ with Zelensky was a bit convenient? He’s buttering up Putin so he can put an end to all this nonsense.

Panterusblackish · 01/03/2025 11:17

I do think we will see wider war in Europe. With modern long range weaponry it will affect the UK more than in WW2.

I think it is to Trump's advantage to foment war, he will want turmoil in Europe next time he tries to overthrow democracy in the USA. He is already mooting a third term. It was clear he and Vance were spoiling for a fight to try and discredit Zelensky

However worrying and stressing about it will change nothing.

That's an awful lot of people saying it won't happen, I think they just haven't accepted the seismic shift in the global power balance. Of course it is hard to accept that Putin has won the cold war, but won it he has. He now has the current US president and future dictator of the US in his pocket.

The liberalism and post war cooperation of the WW2 era is over. It won't come back until after a huge amount more bloodshed. It will take UK Trump supporters dying and their children dying before they finally see sense.

tallhotpinkflamingo · 01/03/2025 11:16

Wow there are a lot of complacent I'm alright Jack's on this thread, no wonder the world is in so much of a mess with so many apathetic people.

It will make you feel better to do something:

Write to your MP
Sign the petitions going around
Get down to your local Ukraine centre or hub and ask how you can help and what they need
Look up your nearest anti-war marches, plan to attend them
See what volunteering you can do to help, there is also stuff you can do from home if you're happy to get involved with calls or emails
Share what you can to help on social media, including directly contacting people you know are likely to help, and supporting Ukrainians and Ukrainian businesses
If you know anyone hosting refugees, find out if you can help them by going for walks, being an ear, collecting anything, giving lifts etc to give everyone a break
Donate if you can (including to food banks), fundraise if you can't

HelpMeGetThrough · 01/03/2025 11:10

Why worry about something you have no control over.

BlondiePortz · 01/03/2025 10:59

Well it will either happen or not how is worrying going to change it?

RedHelenB · 01/03/2025 10:58

FrequentlyVisited · 01/03/2025 10:30

I try not to watch the news as I’m very concerned about the state of the world.
However after watching yesterday’s horrific meeting between Trump and Zelensky that someone posted to me I’m frightened for the future. Am I being unnecessarily worried that world war 3 is on the cards given that we have madmen Trump, Putin and Starmer at the helm?

Starmer is the opposite of mad. He has a lawyer background so will think things through and be diplomatic. You may not agree with what he does but he'd never rant the way Putin and Trump fo.

Pigcasso · 01/03/2025 10:56

People saying it will not happen here, err I have adult kids, I did not have them to be cannon fodder for some egomaniac🙄